I could be completely wrong here, but didn't Faz have a trial with a club in Germany last year or the year before?
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I could be completely wrong here, but didn't Faz have a trial with a club in Germany last year or the year before?
Even if that is his level, I doubt that is the case. I'd say it is probably a second division club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
I would imagine a player could make more money in the regional leauges in Germany than they could here???Quote:
Originally Posted by CSFShels
Would surprise me because all below 3. Bundesliga would be a step backwards in contrast to LoI football imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
[QUOTE=robertob;1422776]"Faz Kuduzovic is on trial in Germany"
On trial for what?
[QUOTE=Fivesilver;1422841]for going to Sligo.Quote:
Originally Posted by robertob
That was 6 years ago. Keep up theres a good lad. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by bullit
Players that have been linked with Derry so far are: McGylnn (Bohs), Higgins (Bohs), McLaughlin (Finn Harps), Joe McCready (Institute), Gary Hamilton (Glentoran), Creataro (Bohs) Marc Mukendi (Coleraine) and Gary Twigg (Shamrock Rovers). James McClean has also been linked with a move to England with Brighton being one of the teams mentioned. Stephen Kenny has been quoted in the paper as saying that he intends to contract most of last years squad prior to looking for new recruits however he has stated that a few of last years squad will leave the Brandywell. One of our Directors Tony Doc has also been quoted in the the local press as sayin that our Squad will most likely be a local team unless outside players are willing to relocate to the local area (namely Derry, Donegal, Tyrone and possibly Co.Antrim) and agree to our wage structure.
I wouldn't think so.Quote:
Originally Posted by bullit
Depends, some giant clubs in that by Irish standards I think?? (could have been lied to by a German)
The German league is quite big; you've an average of 1300 going to fourth division games (and that's deflated a bit by the reserve teams). Add in a TV deal (don't know if the fourth flight has one; there's probably some money dripping down though, like in England) and the chance of a big gate from a Cup run, and I'd hazard a guess you'd earn more in the Regionalligaen than in the LoI Premier.
This talk of earning money in the German lower leagues has got me wondering. What is the highest wage a LOI player is on at the moment approximately. Are some premier players still on 800-1,000+ per week? Are some First Division players on 600-800+ per week or has it come way down in the last few years. Is there a huge gap between the top earners and the lower earners.
Bohs board told them that they had 10 players contracted for next year with liabilities of 600k. YOu can work out the likely weekly wage yourself ;)
Jaysus, those with contracts for next year would have been the players given deals at the start of this season right? How mental could the Bohs board have been? Wow.
AFAIK most of them were given out 2 years ago (ie 3 year deals) or last year but restructured during the season to give them longer contracts but less money
I was a bit sceptical about the figure but I've seen plenty of references to it on the Bohs forum
The reality in the Regionalliga isn't quite rosy at the moment. Most Fourth Division clubs (= North, West & South Division) have big financial problems. They just haven't enough money. Particularly West and South Division clubs have problems to pay their bills. The problem is: There are too many reserve teams of the bigger German clubs in the Leagues. Take a look at the West Division: There are for example Schalke II, Leverkusen II, Bochum II etcetera - overall 12 reserve teams! That means that this league isn't very interesting for sponsors and actually not for spectators. The traditional teams have loyal crowds but that's not enough to pay the bills. Only the north division works reasonably due to some clubs with huge tradition (Magedburg, Chemnitz, Lübeck, Halle, Kiel) and the new formed Red Bull Leipzig. They have some nice derbies.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
The German FA adopted recently a reform for the Fourth Division. There will be five divisions next year within the Regionalliga. Only seven reserve teams will be allowed in each division.
But back to topic: In my opinion it would be a step backwards for Kudozovic if he signs for a German Fourth Division club. Maybe in financial terms he could earn more money than in Ireland if he gets a contract with one of the bigger Fourth Division clubs but as a footballer it would be a step backwards.
According to todays papers, Conor Powell and Paul Keegan are going on trial with Reading.
Thanks for that, robertob; interesting post. Though I don't think this point -
- is hugely relevant given we've got the exact same problems here at the moment!Quote:
Originally Posted by robertob
I don't like this trial business, there either good enough or there not. Surely Reading have watched them several times by now and know what they are like as playersQuote:
Originally Posted by Dillonman
It said they watched Poewll several tiems in the last 2 months and that they have invited both over to train with them for a few weeks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Roo69
Still if they bring them over a long with maybe two other players they are looking at they will want to see how they shape up against each other and make their decision from there. If Powell and Keegan don't want to go over on a trial then they can turn it down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roo69
I have though always felt that Irish lads are only brought over to make up the numbers. An Irish player has to really stand out to have any chance. If it comes down to an Irish or an English player of similar talent they are always going to choose the English player.
Just look at Footballs Next Star that was on Sky One. It was Italian Coaches looking at the players and 3 Irish lads managed to get into the top 10 out of the whole of Ireland and the UK. I feel this was down to the Italians not having a bias on picking English lads and went purely on talent.
According to the local news, the Reading manager has already ruled out signing Powell.
http://www.getwokingham.co.uk/sport/..._star_on_trial
Okay that's right, stu. Most LOI clubs have the same financial problems too.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Btw, anyone know already where he has the trial? I've heard nothing here in Germany about a Kudozovoc trial so far. Not in the 3. Bundesliga and not in the Fourth Division. Maybe he got a regular job offer or something else?
reading very unlikely to sign conor powell. Mcdermott does fancy him now but he already has 3 left backs pushing for senior place. with keegan i think he could get chance. reading only have 2 real DM at the moment and they play normally with the 2 of them in starting team. one of them is 35. i say there could be merit in that rumour. reading are very secretive with their trialists so say hard to know if they really going there for real.
If they have three left backs already why did they bring him on trial if they were only going to reject him on those grounds?
Maybe they had him earmarked for a left wing spot. I personally think he'd be better there then left back but its hard to judge if he doesn't get to play there
I dont think he has actually gone on trial yet they were just eyeing up a trial 4 him , but other reports say diffrent so who knows
Connor Kenna was at our after-cup celebration party last night. Perhaps he just knows some of the lads...
so was Chris Shields, he was there because of McCabe and Foran though. Wouldn't read too much into it.
All indications are that he's joining the cup losersQuote:
Originally Posted by sligoman
Perhaps he turned up at the wrong Rovers ?Quote:
Originally Posted by sligoman
He's mates with at least one fo the Sligo players too in fairness 9and until its announced I'm clinging on to the hope of keeping him)
Can any Dundalk fans confirm that they have asked our Striker Paul Murphy to request that our club rip up his contact so he can sign for ye?
Apparently our club told him where to go and if Dundalk want him then ye'll be paying a fee. His response was that he would be signing for Dundalk either way.
perhaps he is going to "retire" :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by **FrOsTy**
Here's the updated PFAI list of players looking for clubs now the season is over
Interesting that Richie Ryan and Gary McCabe are both listed, presumably they've been offered and turned down deals at Sligo so?Quote:
The following is a list of out of contract players who have indicated to the PFAI that they are seeking employment.
For further details on these players contact the office on 01 899 9356 or 01 899 9350.
Last updated Tuesday 16 November 2010
NAME LAST CLUB POSITION AGE
Declan O'Brien Athlone Town Forward 30
Denis Moran Athlone Town Midfielder 21
Mark Nolan Athlone Town Defender 20
David Breen Athlone Town Defender 31
Paddy Collins Athlone Town Defender 20
Ryan McEvoy Athlone Town Midfielder 20
Andy Haran Athlone Town Forward 21
Robbie Farrell Athlone Town Forward 32
Killian Brennan Bohemian FC Midfielder 26
Anto Murphy Bohemian FC Midfielder 28
Mark Rossiter Bohemian FC Defender 27
Jason McGuinness Bohemian FC Defender 28
Jason Byrne Bohemian FC Forward 32
Conor Powell Bohemian FC Defender 23
Shane O'Neill Bray Wanderers Forward 21
Dane Massey Bray Wanderers Defender 22
Chris Shields Bray Wanderers Midfielder 19
Derek Prendergast Bray Wanderers Defender 25
Daire Doyle Bray Wanderers Midfielder 29
David Tyrrell Bray Wanderers Midfielder 24
Stephen Brennan Bray Wanderers Defender 27
Richie Baker Bray Wanderers Midfielder 30
Shane Barrett Cork City Foras Co-op Forward 28
Emmet Friars Derry City Forward 25
Barry Molloy Derry City Midfielder 26
Kevin Deery Derry City Midfielder 25
Mark Farren Derry City Forward 28
Mark McChrystal Derry City Defender 26
Stephen Parkhouse Derry City Forward 28
John Flood Drogheda Utd Forward 26
Darragh McNamara Drogheda Utd Forward 20
Paul Crowley Drogheda Utd Midfielder 30
Ryan Brennan Drogheda Utd Midfielder 18
Ronan McEnteggart Drogheda Utd Midfielder 19
Alan McNally Drogheda Utd Defender 28
Eoghan Osborne Drogheda Utd Defender 18
Eric McGill Drogheda Utd Midfielder 23
Mick Daly Drogheda Utd Midfielder 21
Paul Skinner Drogheda Utd Goalkeeper 21
Peter McMahon Drogheda Utd Midfielder 21
Ciaran McGuigan Dundalk Defender 21
Stephen McDonnell Dundalk Midfielder 18
Shaun Kelly Dundalk Defender 21
Garry Breen Dundalk Defender 21
Dean Bennett Dundalk Midfielder 32
Nathan Murphy Dundalk Defender 17
Tom Miller Dundalk Midfielder 20
Steven Lennon Dundalk Midfielder 22
Matthew Tipton Dundalk Forward 30
Alan Cawley Dundalk Midfielder 28
Garry Breen Dundalk Defender 21
Faz Kuduzovic Dundalk Midfielder 25
Liam Burns Dundalk Defender 31
Davitt Walsh Finn Harps Forward 24
James Doherty Finn Harps Defender 22
Ciaran Coll Finn Harps Defender 19
Marc Brolly Finn Harps Midfielder 24
Oisin McManamin Finn Harps Midfielder 20
Shane Keogh Galway Utd Midfielder 17
Sean Kelly Limerick FC Defender 23
John McGuinness Limerick FC Goalkeeper 24
Bobby Ryan Limerick FC Midfielder 31
Aaron Shanahan Longford Town Goalkeeper 26
Lee Roche Longford Town Midfielder 24
Kevin Cronin Longford Town Defender 25
Philip Byrne Longford Town Defender 28
John Lester Longford Town Midfielder 28
Craig Mooney Longford Town Midfielder 21
David Freeman Longford Town Forward 30
Peter Hynes Longford Town Forward 26
Thomas Hyland Longford Town Midfielder 23
Chris Deans Longford Town Defender 25
Stephen Conlon Longford Town Goalkeeper 21
Craig Walsh Longford/Shams Midfielder 18
Ger Hanley Mervue Utd Goalkeeper 19
Daragh Hanaphy Monaghan Utd Forward 22
Barry Clancy Monaghan Utd Midfielder 25
Conor McMahon Monaghan Utd Defender 23
Stephen McCrossan Monaghan Utd Midfielder 25
Anthony Costigan Monaghan Utd Defender 22
Brian Gartland Monaghan Utd Defender 23
Sean O'Connor Shamrock Rovers Midfielder 27
Stephen Bradley Shamrock Rovers Midfielder 25
Robert Bayly Shamrock Rovers Midfielder 22
Mark Leech Shelbourne Forward 24
Gareth Whelan Shelbourne Defender 22
Stephen Quigley Shelbourne Defender 25
Brian Farrell Shelbourne Forward 23
Mick Clarke Shelbourne Defender 21
Ian Ryan Shelbourne Defender 23
Stephen Paisley Shelbourne Defender 27
David McGill Shelbourne Midfielder 28
Eric Foley Shelbourne Midfielder 20
Matthew Blinkhorn Sligo Rovers Forward 25
Richie Ryan Sligo Rovers Midfielder 25
Derek Foran Sligo Rovers Defender 20
John Russell Sligo Rovers Midfielder 25
John Dillon Sligo Rovers Midfielder 22
Richard Brush Sligo Rovers Goalkeeper 25
Gary McCabe Sligo Rovers Midfielder 22
Danny Ventre Sligo Rovers Midfielder 24
Iarlaith Davoren Sligo Rovers Defender 24
Alan Kirby Sporting Fingal Midfielder 33
Kenneth Browne Sporting Fingal Defender 24
Gary O'Neill Sporting Fingal Forward 28
Brian Gannon Sporting Fingal Defender 26
Ollie Cahill Sporting Fingal Midfielder 35
Glen Crowe Sporting Fingal Forward 32
Eamon Zayed Sporting Fingal Forward 26
Colin Hawkins Sporting Fingal Defender 33
Keith Quinn Sporting Fingal Midfielder 22
Lorcan Fitzgerald Sporting Fingal Defender 21
Brian Cash St Patricks Ath Midfielder 27
Gary Rogers St Patricks Ath Goalkeeper 28
Conor Kenna St Patricks Ath Defender 26
Ian Bermingham St Patricks Ath Defender 21
Stuart Byrne St Patricks Ath Midfielder 33
Paul Byrne St Patricks Ath Forward 24
Noel Haverty St Patricks Ath Defender 21
Michael Kelly UCD Defender ?
Greg Bolger UCD Midfielder 22
Andrew Boyle UCD Defender 19
David McMillan UCD Forward 21
Paul O'Connor UCD Midfielder 23
Chris Mulhall UCD Midfielder 22
Brian Shortall UCD Defender 25
Evan McMillan UCD Defender 23
Gareth Matthews UCD Defender 20
Billy Brennan UCD Goalkeeper 25
Stephen Roche UCD Midfielder 24
Cian Byrne UCD Goalkeeper 21
Dwayne Wilson UCD Midfielder 23
Liam Kearney Waterford Utd Midfielder 27
It might just mean they haven't signed anything yet, as opposed to having turned anything down.
There are a few surprises on there, particularly the presence of only one Galway United player.
I think they'd have had to inform the PFAI that they were seeking a new club. There are other Shamrock Rovers players aside from Bayly, Bradley and SOC that are out of contract yet don't appear on the list, presumably because they're in ongoing negotiations with the club
Some very good players on that list
A update on the Pats players on the list is Kenna looks like he is going to Rovers and Gary Rogers should be signed back for us by Saturday (deadline Pete has given players to sign by), Not sure about Bermo but i reckon he has been offered a new contract and the rest wont be signing back
He could always retire.Quote:
Originally Posted by **FrOsTy**
Don't you have to ask to be put on that list? So at best, they're testing the water? I know most of our lads have been told we'd love to keep them on, but on pay cuts, which is why they'd be on that list.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
(Cian Byrne's a strange one though, given he retired midway through last season. Must be making a comeback)