The Aviva pitch is fairly wide. Might be suited to McGeady as regards stretching this kind of opposition. If they double up on him, what harm.Quote:
Originally Posted by rebelmusic
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The Aviva pitch is fairly wide. Might be suited to McGeady as regards stretching this kind of opposition. If they double up on him, what harm.Quote:
Originally Posted by rebelmusic
How much wider is the pitch now?
No idea, but I remember reading it's bigger.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Edit: Actually I may have been thinking of Croke Park.
Did they not keep the Croke park soccer pitch dimensions down to a replica of the Lansdowne rd size?
The soccer pitch at Croke Park was 105m x 70m
http://www.crokepark.ie/about/pitch/about-the-pitch
According to Wikipedia (I can't find another source, though the Aviva site uselessly informs us that it's 47m high), the Lansdowne pitch will be slightly smaller at 106m x 68m
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviva_Stadium
0 goals in 32 games, I'd say you would want 16-1 + for value.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Fly
You can get 13/2 on him being 1st goal scorer at Btfair, which looks lake very bad value to me.
Better value would be Lawrence at 10-1 or Dunne at 19-1.
How's McCarthys knee - a great game to bring him on & to seriously look at some alternative midfield partnerships.
Andrews/Whelan/Green will not see us through the group & midfiield again looked very weak on Friday.
He hasn't made himself available for the U21s.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia
Yeah I know - was hoping he was feeling better by now!
Same startes as the other day says Trap, 2 articles at soccernet.com.
I think your right I remember reading the same thing about the pitch at the Aviva that it was the max dimensions of a football pitch. However, am sure it can be brought in if Trap wished.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sullivinho
As an anytime goalscorer at 5/1, I think St Ledger looks a good bet. He is usually up there sniffing about on the set pieces and is a target man for the final header.
Get real? Good one. Maybe if you read what I said rather than get all uppidity you'd be better off. I never said they wouldn't be around for that campaignQuote:
Originally Posted by Murfinator
What I said was at the start of the campaign they would be at that age, therefore 2 years on, when the finals start (if we made it) they'll be hitting 34,35,34,35 and 38 respectively. Is that too old for the bulk of a team? Of course it is, so I suggest it is you that gets the reality check. I'm expecting a few retirements after this campaign, and plenty will have earned it.
I was away for a few days, but I honestly think that mcgeady is never ever going to get any better for us than what he currently offers. I beleive that when he loses his pace he is going to offer absoloutely nothing and I also see him making very little impact in Russia, especially with big physical players. How can a footballer not work on his upper body strength with all the time they have off and qualified personnel at their disposal.
Doyle really was top class friday evening, I think its his upper body strength that sets him aaprt from so many other strikers. He has great close control of the ball as well, i can never see him being a prolific goalscorer because he is not a fox in the box but offers a lot more especially for a team like us, and in away games where we need him to hold up the play and wait for support.
Keane unfortunately has proved that he needs 4 chances to convert 1, he didnt get that 4th one friday night.
Liam lawrence is really likeable, like his attitude, funny didnt keane say that he thought he hadn't the right attitude.
Paul green was far more assertive in the second half, but again i think he isnt physically strong enough for midfield for international football.
Oshea, was the only one who looked very comfortable in tight spaces and wherever he got the ball. The only one who seems technically adept at this level.
Dunne/st ledger/given all did their jobs pretty much.
Kilbane well he tried hard, but he kept getting pulled into the middle, i didnt blame him so much for this as dunnes lack of organisation of the back 4.
luckily fahey is more of a cm than winger, otherwise he wouldn't have been anywhere near where he was for the shot he took for the goal.
ill put my house(flat) on it, if we dont beat russia at home in october this group will go the way of so many others before i.e. we wont qualify for Euros.
I'm expecting us to win by 3 goals tonight. England struggled with them for 45 minutes (away game in Barca, got booed I think at HT) and the players must remain patient. If we get one early then it will be a doddle.
McGeady needs a goal tonight.
Nice fast tempo please with plenty of crosses into the box. If Lawrence can sort out his set pieces tonight then Doyle, Dunne and St Ledger should have a lot of joy.
I don´t know what McGeady did to upset so many people with his performance on friday night.
His setpiece was superb, his 2 crosses were expertly delivered. He created the space for himself to deliver a rasping shot after a darting run.
He won freekicks and held the ball up well most of the other times.
He regularily made himself available in space to receive the ball. Mostly the ball went down the right side. Our natural inclination to deliver the ball down the right side 9/10, is a worrying phenomena.
I must have watched another game Geysir. I thought McGeady was very average. I do recall his run which ended up with him dragging his shot wide but other than that he had a quiet game.
Probably because we can't rely on Kilbane's pace, if he overlaps and we lose possession there would be a huge gap to exploit on the quick counter and Zinedine could be 50 yards away. O'Shea is not the quickest, but I bet he could make it back into defence a fair bit quicker. It's a limitation to our game but it's necessary. Another reason why Kilbane has to be phased out, we'd be a lot harder to defend against (and a bit less predictable) if we could send the left-back forward more often to help McGeady/Duff.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
3-0 Ireland. Doyle to (deservedly) grab one. Second half substitute Darron Gibson sent off for a two-footed lunge on Paul Green ;)
i'd love us to score a HATFUL tonight but it's not likely. if we score within the first 15 you'd never know.
having said that i can see myself screaming at the tv with it locked at 0-0 going into the last 10 mins... ah the joys.
If I was watching another game then I would have missed his corner delivery right on top of St ledger´s head. A big head I know but still an achievement from a planned set piece. I would not have seen his long cross pitch pass to Lawrence early in the 2nd half - was the pass of the evening, or his across-box pass to the feet of Doyle was a real danger here moment. Short of shirking his assigned role, he got involved in the game as much as was afforded him and his involvement was met with quality from him for 95% of that involvement.Quote:
Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
tbf to mcgeady, he can't do anything if he doesn't have the ball. on about the only occasion he did get the ball in a good position on the wing he made an impressive run and got a decent shot off.
Funny that people only seem notice the run he made with the ball and not the other good things he did.
Like, it's not that difficult to remember the corner or the long pass to Lawrence, two outstanding pieces of play?
people expect mcgeady to make runs down the flank. thats what he's built his reputation on. theyre probably not going to be satisfied with a decent corner.
He got bombed out of Sunderland with a few others after "roasting" scandal.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Sure it was roasting over in Armenia too and he performed very well..Quote:
Originally Posted by dr_peepee
He can stand the heat !Quote:
Originally Posted by Sullivinho
I think for tonights game the scoreline is all about the first half. Andorra are content to lose if the score is low. So if it's anywhere up to 2-0 their manager will tell them to keep the bus parked. If we pull off 3 in the first half, he may consider chasing the game and that will open them up and could be a rout. Here's hoping anyway. You know games like this if it's not at least 3-0 we won't be too entertained. At least we wont be biting our fingers for the last 1 minutes (my entire body is currently touching my wooden desk!)
I thought McGeady's slower across box ball (to KD?)early in the second half was the best bit of skill other than the goal the whole game. I would love to see him have a stormer tonight and make it very hard for Trap to drop him.
1 Shay Given
2 Sean St Ledger
3 Kevin Kilbane
4 John O'Shea
5 Richard Dunne
6 Glenn Whelan
7 Liam Lawrence
8 Paul Green
9 Kevin Doyle
10 Robbie Keane (C)
11 Aiden McGeady
Subs
16 Keiren Westwood
12 Keith Fahey
13 Stephen Kelly
14 Darron Gibson
15 Greg Cunningham
17 Andrew Keogh
18 Shane Long
Darron had some head on him there during the warmup. If he gets on, his first shot could result in a crowd fatality.
Anyone got a stream for the match?
It's got a lot of competition from bigger games so I would not be surprised if the radio will be the only option.
Wow Ireland are 40-1 on for a win at Ladbrokes, they seem more confident Ireland will
win than I am. Don't think I will be putting my mortgage on it though. :)
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?ma...51&part=sportsQuote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
http://www.iraqgoals.net/12693-ireland-vs-andorra-.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
What a ****ing legend!
always good to see killer get a goal