Rumour has it dodge, Bohs are trying to blame angela merkel ''whats another year'' :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Rumour has it dodge, Bohs are trying to blame angela merkel ''whats another year'' :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
elephant in the room here lads, but is it time to merge some clubs in dublin and let them and their fans "keep living" as opposed to watching a load of clubs go bust and lose all the EL fans forever of those clubs.
Yeah, cos all Pat's, Shels and UCD fans will rush to watch St Shelbourne College.
Why should the clubs who manage themselves OK have to merge with the ones who don't?Quote:
Originally Posted by gael353
It shold be remembered too that more couontry teams have gone bust than Dublin teams (both historically and recently)
Yes, what this league needs is less teams, not more.
i agree dodge and the point is i dont wanna see dub clubs go the way of outer dublini clubs like kildare, Kilkenny, st francis etc. The clubs im looking at are Bohs, shels and Fingal or two of the three
Nein!
what does that fix by the way?Quote:
Originally Posted by gael353
Hmmm, lets put the three worst run clubs (past and present) together into a big mish-mash of financial sh1ttitude. Its gotta work... ;) ;)
Only UCD has shown the consistent ability to run itself prudently so maybe it should be them and a mish-mash of the rest. Sporting St. Shelbohs Rovers.
Denial of a licence and relegation. It ultimately lead to Shels grasping reality. Probably saved Rovers by forcing the old regime out. Have we actually seen licencing properly enforced? But if there's no point, and no sanction, then we should stop the charade of the financial side of licencing.Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
We don't need to pick sides. Bohs and the FAI both messed up.
Fair enough, if it doesn't involve pats slash and burn them allQuote:
Originally Posted by gael353
Shamrock Bohs Athletic would be an excellent proposition and I foresee no problems whatsoever.
People lament too many Dublin clubs but in fairness there's supposed to be a club for Fingal and South Dublin. Bohemians and Shelbourne have their history and Pat's are south city club? Seems spread out enough.
It looks like the Pat's banner could be right about Boh's being TNS.
It's sad for the league to have another season like this where there is more financial woe and sides who've been relegated on the field of play might get to keep their place. Nearly all clubs have had their own problems financially though and aren't in a position to judge others.
Needs a snappier name - something like the Dublin Dons, or Dublin City. Perfectly placed for a european league. What could possibly go wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
FC United of DublinQuote:
Originally Posted by Macy
If Bohs go then Drogs will go/stay up. But if another club whose in financial difficulty goes bust and has to be relegated who will take there place? Waterford because we finished 2nd or Mons because the got to the playoff final?
Monaghan would be the first team to go up (ahead of Drogs) as play-off losers I'd assume.
It's the FAI. Who knows. :weep:Quote:
Originally Posted by **FrOsTy**
Send in a snazzy PowerPoint presentation. They are suckers for a bit of colour.
Surely Mons would have a better claim than Drogs?
Well if the reports are true that they were hoping to meet their budget by getting to the group stages of the Europa League, then they probably should have considered going part time this time last year .
I think Bohs will probably reform in the first division .
Will probably be the only way forward for the club .
It's hard to know. Are Monaghan considered now of a higher rank than Drogheda? If a team was demoted before the play-offs, Drogheda would've been involved in the play-offs. As it was that they were relegated. Waterford and Monaghan were involved in the higher rank of the play-offs with a shot at Premier football that Drogheda didn't have having been relegated. On this it would have to go to Monaghan?
Drogheda would stay up ahead of Monaghan, the FAI have in the past ranked the bottom team in the Premier Division ahead of any second or lesser placed team in the First. Waterford and Bray have stayed up that way in the recent past.
When we stayed up the First Division team in the play-off final (Fingal) were promoted though. Would that make the two situations different?Quote:
Originally Posted by Longfordian
I can't remember the details of the Waterford scenario, just that they were left with very little time to assemble a team for the Premier.
Wasn't there only one automatic relegation that season? So Bray were the top ranked side in any case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevo Da Gull
But Derry and Cork went down,UCD went up automaticaly as champs,Fingal won the play-off and Galway and Bray stayed instead of Derry and/or Cork.:confused:
If the league is going to be expanded in 2012 then it would make sense for both Mons and Drogs to be in the premier. We have to have a claim as we should have been in the playoff and Mons won promotion so they have a claim as well. That's if it needs to happen.
Not quite true. Derry and Cork ceased to exist so there were 2 free spaces in the premier league and the "new" clubs were made to start in the first division. There was no relegation because of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bullit
Yeah, true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Correct, except ourselves and Drogs were the bottom two, not Galway.Quote:
Originally Posted by bullit
So Drogheda would get the place... I know that it seems to be the procedure in these cases so I suppose it's just because of the excruciating circumstances of the play-off final loss that it seems to me to be so cruel on Monaghan. I would hope for the sake of the Drogs fans that if they do get a reprieve, they'll be told well before the start of the season, rather than at the last minute.
Whatever comes of this situation with Bohs, it should be sorted before the end of the year. Besy of luck to the fans of any and all teams who get screwed by the situation.
Well clearly Bohs would replace Bohs. We've too much history and waterford are too close the delaney bone.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
So athlone will get the place...
Once Monaghan and Waterford played in the play-offs, is that not at a higher level at that stage than finishing 10th in the Premier? Last year Bray had lost to Fingal and when Cork dropped out, Bray were next in line.
Nope 10th in the premier is higher than 2nd in the first
there was something in one of the papers today lads that if bohs are demoted that monaghan utd would take their place instead.. how could this be??
I suppose that depends on the state that drogheda are in.
this is sad to see happen and in comical way is turning into an annual event.
proberly a Journo who has took a wild guess instead of doing some research.. whod have thoughtQuote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
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Originally Posted by jinxy lilywhite
But we wont know what " state " we are in until we know what division we are playing in . As we all know with sponsorship etc that it will be much easier to get money etc in the prem than the the graveyard . It needs to be sorted Asap either way or we will have no team to play in the prem . Cant see the fai wanting bohs to go down anyway tbh .
You've got my hopes up now (though I wish no ill will to Bohs or Fingal or anyone else), what paper was it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
Was listening to Richie Ryan on Phantom this morning. Was talking about a fundraising gig this weekend at 20quid a pop.Quote:
Originally Posted by monsexile
I didn't know Geldof was a Bohs fan.
At the end of the season Drogheda were relegated. Though 10th Premier is higher than 2nd or 3rd in the First Division, Monaghan and Waterford played in the Premier Divison play-offs. The Premier Division play-offs at that stage are deemed to have a higher rank than finishing 10th in the Premier. 10th in the Premier are already relegated with no chance of retaining their status. Premier Division play-offs side whether Premier 8th and 9th or First Division 2nd and 3rd have a shot at Premier football giving them the higher rank.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
If a side was demoted before the play-offs, it would have gone like last year when Bray instead of being automatically relegated got a chance through the play-offs.
Depends if Bohs are demoted or made to finish 10th (and hence automatic relegation), bumping everyone up a place, I suppose
Whats your basis for this?Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz