involved with leeside myself horse. our b team had a good work out today drew 1-1 with ringmahon juniors. alot missing but youths came in and done v well.
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involved with leeside myself horse. our b team had a good work out today drew 1-1 with ringmahon juniors. alot missing but youths came in and done v well.
are we playing ye wednesday in the final of the barry wallQuote:
Originally Posted by bluey
I don't think getting rid of midweek games is feasible. Not a hope! We'd be playing twelve months of the year! Not with the fixtures that a successful junior team is expected to fulfill. It's tough but you're penalised for doing well. A small bit of common sense shoud prevail when deciding who should play eachother during the week though. Distances to travel and all that should be taken into consideration.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFella 09
I think the best team will always win at the end of the season regardless of mid week games and all that. That has been the way for the last number of years in the premier league. (well maybe not last year:p!!)
Bog,it aint nice to be cranky,Wilton won fair an square,they beat everybody when it counted,enough said.
dont think so bella, didn play anyone in that tournament yet and from what i know we where not asked down to it at all
1t has always been a problem with early fixtures.it only makes sense to have teams play each other that wont involve much travelling.
To be honest I cant see the point of having the night matches at the start of the season when the light is beginning to fade - any bit of bad weather and its like playing in the dark!!
Hows it going lads. Been reading this forum for the last year so decided to have an input if thats ok with everybody. Involved with Glen Celtic and looking forward to a very tough season in 1a. We have 4 local derbys against Leeds, Mayfield Utd, Dillons Cross and Ballyvolane. And not forgetting Bohs who we always seem to have very close and hard games against.
Lads this anti mid week game thing,wheres this comin from.We are all playin friendlies mid week for the last 2 weeks to suit ourselves an we are all happy doin that,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the next thing the Aul give ya a fixture an theirs war ??????????
Some one has to play away mid week an some one has to play at home mid week,each year we know its goin to happen so get organised an just get on with it.
Cas I can totally understand ya being frustratated at the fixtures ye got but considering yer were supposed to be playin out of Pfizers even if ye had a home fixture instead of away ones ye would have had some serious travelin to do anyway.
I have no problem with night matches whatsoever - however its bright until only 9 ish at the start of the season and only darker its getting - while if its raining (i know its rare in this country ;)) it gets dark even earlier!Quote:
Originally Posted by littleman
Night matches should be played at the end of the season only (just my opinion!)
However I do have a problem when the fixtures are like we had last year
On the same night if i recall
Park Utd v Glenthorn
Leeds V Glanworth
And then we played Leeds away the following Sunday and I think Glanworth played Park
Now littleman try and explain the logic behind that???
Surely it would have been more sense for a leeds v Glenthorn game and then Park V Glanworth game for the evening match and the travelling to be done at the weekend!
We all know its enivitable that some travelling will be required but anybody can see it was ridiculous to travel to Park on a Thursday evening and take the short skip to Leeds on the Sunday!
Of the 10 sides in the Prem this season,Kinsale,Park,Knockavilla,Coachford are all handy spins,Blarney st,Leeside'Wilton are all tricky trips with the traffic,the Gratts'Village an Glenthorn are the only city teams,so how exacrly would ya do out a fixture list for that withour someone gettin cought to travel far mid week
Well to be honest i dont think there is an easy answer in all cases as Park are so far away - but the City teams could play the city teams - the southside based teams could play each other midweek - Kinsale v Knockavilla or vice versa . I just think sometimes a little bit more thought could be put in - the fixtures secretaries job is difficult i know but everybody isnt going to be happy i know !! Just as a matter of interest Littleman where was the furthest away Preseason game ye played?
well we were due to go to dungarvan but the weather called it off the nite before,so we'v had 2 games at home an away game yesterday out in Douglas,so not far at all.We were due to play mid week this week in our last warm up game but becaues of the fixtures we have we have decided to just train instead tue an thur instead.Makes more sense.
Before I forget a big welcome to everbody whos new to the site,great to see so many new clubs come onboard.
Dcross,saw some of yer game today,that dive from the Rockmount lad was halarious,laughed me head off,twas like somethin from little britan,an to make it worse jj saved it,terrific save,then came up with an even better 2nd save an finally see the loose ball belted into the net,heartbreakin stuff
Well I suppose most teams have had their last pre-season games this weekend. How did they go and how does every one feel about how well they're prepared for the new season.
I hear Glenthorn could be struggling this year, anyone hear anything?
lool lads someone had to break the news,the refs are on strike till further notice,so ask yor secretary to contactthe refs asc now,rather than later
Thought the smiley face was proof enough that the comment was tongue in cheek. Thanks to Jeremy Kyle for pointing it out though!!Quote:
Originally Posted by littleman
Referees on strike?!?!:eek: What's the reason? Money presumably? All games off so this weekend? Just cork aul referees or what? This is nuts!
Welcome on board timmypav - the more the merrier!! Ye should do alright this year - some good players in Danny Kiely, Paul Monaher etc and of course not forgetting the ex-Hibs brigade! Shane Hurley is another fine player - he played for me while at Hibs!Quote:
Originally Posted by timmypav
Hi pacman - as an ex Glenthorn manager i would have a bit more knowledge of what is going on there! They have lost a good few players however i dont think they were pursued too vigorously - back to basics and going to try and introduce some younger players into the club as far as i know! They had a good underage team there once upon a time and i think they want to get a few of them back into the club!Quote:
Originally Posted by pacman
Good to see you backing up the AUL everytime wee man :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by littleman
However, when Cork City looked like going out of business recently - the top league in the country would have ruled that City's games were null and void.
If the AUL had used a similar rule (when Villa and Ballyphehane dropped out midseason) to the top league in the country then Wilton would not have won the league last year. FACT!
If I thought the league was going to be settled like this regularly then I'd pack it in.
However, Wilton are a great team and a great bunch of lads and the admin hiccups are certainly not down to them.
Also as I've my rant hat on - what about last years Golden Boot?
At the end of the season Derek McCarthy had won the Golden Boot with his goals in the Premier Division (only 17 games available to him due to the teams dropping out).
Then the Premier A went to a 3 way playoff - and a Knockavilla player got a few more goals in these extra games (18 league + 2 playoff) to top Derek's tally. The AUL in their wisdom have awarded the Golden Boot to the Knockavilla player (sorry, I dont know his name).
Derek McCarthy bust his ass for the Cork AUL team last year and this is how he's treated.
(If I was in Derek's position I know what I'd tell them when the Cork AUL team come calling this year!!!)
Once again the award for fairness goes to the Cork AUL.
Should we even bother ringing in the scorers this year?
Is it any wonder the best players want to get away from the AUL?
Derek Varian, Paul O'Mahony, John Paul O'Sullivan and Derek Delea spring to mind as recent emigrants.
Rant over... roll on next saturday...lets hope it's a great season for all the right reasons!!!
Not sure of the full story, but didn't Knockavilla win the Premier A with no play-off? The play-off was between 3 teams for 2nd place...Quote:
Originally Posted by Shilts
Knockavilla won the league outright! But i can see your point maybe it should be decided on the number of goals divided by the number of games to give a ratio or something!
Also as much as the AUL might have wanted to they cant change the rules midseason - its unusual for 2 teams to pull out but the rule was there at the start - maybe an EGM amongst the premier league clubs would have been a good idea but maybe the AULs hands are tied
But have to totally disagree with you on one point!!! I dont think the players you have listed leave their respective clubs to get away from the AUL
Also...
From what I have heard the Cork AUL have caused the local refs to go on strike (its not a money issue)...so no refs for MSL, AUL or Business League games until this is sorted out.
Bravo again AUL :mad:
But am I surprised, not a bit...some of these guys couldn't run a tap! :D
Yeah, hopefully we should be ok. i dont see anyone running away with it. It should be close enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by olachico
Ya, its bad enough when a player tries it, worse again when the referee actually falls for it, and then for them to score from it the way they did. If its a sign of things to come from the referees I wouldnt be too optimistic for the season, last Thursday we came from 2 down and were winning 3-2 with bout ten minutes left, they got a goal that was ridiculously off-side and the ref let it stand, when I said it to him he said that he knows it was off-side but he wanted to make a game of it, I know it was only a friendly but hes still getting his mtch fee and youd expect him to do his job, and at 3-2 it was far from being a formality. Just had to get that off my chest.Quote:
Originally Posted by littleman
Gee's Shilts,who rattled your cage.
Your half right about the refs,its not about the money,theirs a dissagreement between the refs an the MFA,an the refs are'nt backing down.
Shilts we all got points from the Villa,Bally foldin issue.I dont like what happened either but Wilton still won the league fair an square,if Kinsale or anyone else were at a loss because of the way it was handled then they should of appealed it to the MFA ,but nobody did so why drag this thing out.An before someone says what if it happens again,unless someone has a crystal ball an lets the AUL know what club is in trouble,it will probably be handled the same way .
any idea when the dispute with the refas is going to end, are the games going ahead the weekend or what
Not to be nit picking littleman but I dont call that fair and square! No way boy!! I made a tongue in cheek comment about the best team not winning and you picked up on it and harped on about not being cranky! There's more than one person dragging this out!
It's not sour grapes at all. We knew our position from january on ward and knew what we had to do and didn't do it, end of. Doesn't make the situation right however and if any AUL member is reading this I hope they take our opinions on board and do the right thing next time. Or do they know how to use computers?!!:p (that's a small dig again littleman!!)
Surely after what happened last season, with 4-5 clubs folding mid-season in various leagues the AUL committee have discussed how it should be dealt with if it happens again. I would hope they would follow the FAI structure of expunging a teams results, as what was the case had Cork City gone belly up... I've no problem with what happened last year because it was the rule at the time that results stand and that's fine, but surely they must have looked at it again in the offseason???
Only thing is Littleman, you don't need a crystal ball, just change the rules, if a team then does drop out you deal with it accordingly.
Lets be honest about this lads, it has happened plenty of times in the past but it was always in lower divisions and normally only one club from a division. This time because it was premier there is a much bigger deal made of it...
Firstly Innish,great post.
Bog maybe we both picked up each others comments wrong,I no more meant any thing serious with my 'jeremey kyle' comment,i just forgot to put a smiley face at the end of it.
Look Bog you may think Im pro Aul but its far from the case.As a person I only concentrate on what I can change rather than getting frustrated at what I cant,an theres nothin I can do to change what the Aul do.
In England over the weekend,Palace an Bristol.We all know its wrong,we all know how to prevent it happening again but the people in charge refuse to change the rules,adding to our frustration.An if Palace lose out on promotion by a point,or indeed get relegated by a point,then so be it according to the FA,rules are rules,no matter how frustrating an even more frustrating when common sense denotes theirs a fair option available.
If I was a Kinsale player Id have lost the plot big time at the way the Aul handled it an especially with the work ye put in on the pitch but Im not an how they handled it played no part in the outcome of our season cause we never showed up at all last season.So again its easy for me to say let it go.
But,if Wilton had of played Villa an Bally in there first 4 games an won those 4 games would it have been fair on them then to have the points deducted because of the 2 clubs folding.Wilton did nothing wrong,they were awarded points for 4 games because 2 sides droped out according to the rules,that left the, 14 games we shouldnt forget.
Wilton won the league,playing by the leagues rules,wether we rate those rules or not .
Ye had the oppertuinity to win the league anyway if ye had got the win against Willton out in the Farm,but that to is history now and we all should accept Wilton are worthy champs.
Yup, pretty much sums up the way I look upon it too. Worthy champs, both teams had their chances.
But I do hope the AUL have some sort of fair plan in place on how to deal with drop outs this year which will inevitable happen I think. That's all.
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Originally Posted by Shilts
I also heard about this . Anymore update on the referee situation ? Will the start of the season be put back a week or two. :confused:
referee desision will be known tonight after a meeting between .referees and .m.f.a, .that will be chaired by the F.A.I.I. HAVE THIS ON VERY good authority.was speaking to the referee involved , and he is being prevented from refereeing in the .A .U.L BY THEIR CHAIRMAN.THEIR DIFFERENCES stem from when the chairman was fixture secretary a few years back.if the cork .a.u.l dont back down there will be no matches this weekend.
Lets hope its sorted. Our lads are itching to get started.
update re refs; following a meeting between MFA and refs where the MFA refused to enter any discussion, the referees have officially withdrawn their services from this Thurs until further notice! Not a good start for any of us!:mad:
What a balls about the refs strike - why cant we all just get along - Make love not war etc LOL
(Note this was tongue in cheek - i do not wish to make love to any of the referees, AUL committee or the MFA LOL)
Does anyone know which Ref is the one in qusetion? I heard its to do with Aidan O Regan (Raggy)
on Billy's site the AUL/MSL Youths and U17 league cups are cancelled due to the referee's strike.
Also there is a fairly stern warning against clubs (youth and U17 for now) arranging friendlies...
See below for full text... Looks very ominous that they are looking for people to sign up as referees...
Cork Youth Leagues Fixtures Cancelled:
Due to ISRS Cork branch going on strike by refusing to staff matches the Management Committee of the Cork Youth Leagues have decided to cancel the U17 and Youth League Cup competitions this season, so all published fixtures are cancelled.
No Friendly Games:
The committee are issuing a directive to every team in the league that friendly games must not take place during this strike. Sanctions will be imposed on any team who will be in breach of this directive.
Non Society Referees:
The management committee wish to state that if sufficient referees registered with the FAI who are not members of the Cork Branch of the I.S.R.S. are available that league matches will be arranged, as we are anxious to finish our season before the end of May because of players doing exams.
Beginner’s Course;
We wish to remind anybody interested in taking up a career as a referee that a beginner’s course will take place on Saturday next, if interested contact Brian O’Regan 086-8113959
First of all I didnt hear this from a ref or a commitee member so take this with a grain of salt...as with all my posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by corkref
The Refs society usually decide which refs are allocated to each league - AUL, MSL etc. However on this occassion the AUL decided they dont want a particular ref (I wont name him as its unimportant, and I might be wrong (again...ooops!)). The refs have said that this is unacceptable - that its up to them to provide qualified refs to each league. This is where the standoff is at the moment.
I have to say from the little I know about this issue, I'm behind the refs. But maybe I dont know the full storey!!!
Im not meaning to sound like im makin a joke of this but the Aul has,nt done much to raise the standard off refs over the years has it,so where are they comin from on this.
The man in question was a refereeing accessor,his opinion deemed important enough to say wether a ref was up to the grade or not,yet the Aul say hes not good enough to ref in the Aul,who do they think their kiddin.:confused:
Not one club has put in an objection,not one so for me they have no place saying no to this bloke.:mad:
The idea was for the Aul to have its clubs best interests at heart,not its individual commitee member/members interests.:mad:
if thats true you have to back the refs here, if it is the name mentioned above the aul should only be glad to have a ref of his calibure in all fairness he a loi official, and they dont want him in the aul!! madness..