Shocking insight to the mess behind the Shankly gates
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Shocking insight to the mess behind the Shankly gates
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Was at the Stoke game and have to say much improved performance happy out i am. Johnson and Lucas best for me on the night.
I catch your drift alright but it makes no sense to me. Why would the media give United an easier ride than Liverpool? it's all the same to them, they'll jump on whatever's easy. It's obviously a lot harder to critisise Ferguson compared to Benitez with regards to results. I don't get this whole 'everybody's against us attitude', United and Liverpool are both huge, successful clubs that are treated the same as far as I can see.Quote:
Originally Posted by papa-j
Strange game last night. Villa defended well I suppose but Liverpool seemed devoid of their usual floodlit Anfield urgency, even after going behind. 6pts behind Chelsea is a lot after only 3 games and they really wouldn't want it to get much bigger. God only knows what Reina was thinking for the 2nd goal, if anybody should have known the shot took a deflection is should have been him. Of course the ref was going to allow Villa to take the corner when there was about 20 seconds left before he kicked the ball away in petulance. At least Rafa agreed it was a clear penalty after the match.
Worst game i've ever seen Gerrard play. Anonymous for 90 mins other than making that stupid tackle on Reo-Coker.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
Result about right last night, well done Rafa Beneathus.
Yeah hasn't had the greatest of starts but can't be too hard on him considering how he's pulled so many games out of the fire over the seasons. Disappointing result alright very poor defending for all three goals. Villa defended well and always looked as if they could grab a third with Young having a great game. Huge game against Bolton on Saturday now.Quote:
Originally Posted by rambler14
Is this a bit of a foolish move given their lack of depth? I heard this guy looked pretty decent in pre-season as well.
Liverpool loan Nemeth to AEK Athens
Rafa v Riera Part I. What odds on Riera going out the door at Xmas.
Was at the game on Saturday. Thought it was a decent enough performance a real of case of getting the job done.
Watched 15 mins of the game tonight and in that time I saw Gerrard dive in the box TWICE and Riera dive in the box ONCE.
They really are the worst team for diving in Europe. Gerrard leading by example but gets away with it because he's English, by get away it I mean: No Yellow Card and no attention drawn to his diving by the media.
I think you are being very harsh there. He is the best player in the world at the moment and usually faces a barrage of heavy challenges from opposition players. He is treated very badly by officials, if anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by rambler14
Of course they are :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by rambler14
I don't even think he's the best player at Liverpool, let alone the world. I still think he's an excellent player don't get me wrong but nowhere near the best in the world. I agree that R14 was being harsh, bordering on ridiculous to be honest. One of the "dives" should have been a penalty I thought as well although I don't think he's treated badly by officials in general, far from it.Quote:
Originally Posted by reder
You're not a Man Utd fan by any chance??Quote:
Originally Posted by rambler14
Cardiff City.........why do you ask?:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by lionelhutz
Who is better?Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
torres
Yeah I'd consider Torres a far superior player to be honest. Basically if I was picking a World XI Torres would be on it every time, Gerrard I don't think would make my bench. Obviously I'd consider Gerrard 2nd best player at Liverpool by a long long way, especially now that Alonso is gone. I'd probably rate Lampard higher than Gerrard also but it's difficult to gage how each would do at opposite clubs. I think Lampard has a much better all round game but Gerrard is possibly more spectacular.
but steve gerrard, gerrard is big and he's f**king hard, he's better than frank lampard so your last statement cant be correctQuote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
:DI stand corrected, my badQuote:
Originally Posted by hula4
No big club wants either..
No point in wanting what you can't have I supposeQuote:
Originally Posted by apo11o
Liverpool still gonna win the league Liverpool fans?
If Torres stays fit, I think they will. Chelsea want the CL more than anything and they will focus on that. United are just not strong enough this season and I think they will slip up. The top 4 will change this season though. I think City will break into it and Villa will be far closer. No Europa league will help Villa big time.Quote:
Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
Hope so really do.Quote:
Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
Where do you feel that United are lacking, compared to Liverpool? Goals don't seem to be as much a problem as one would have envisaged after losing Ronaldo and Tevez. I personally think they are weak enough in midfield. Hargreaves would be a big boost if he could get fit. Having said that, Anderson is playing well enough and Liverpool have Lucas pulling the strings. Defensively, although not the last day, United are definitely stronger in my opinion, with Glen Johnson about the only player that would challenge for a start on a full strength United team.Quote:
Originally Posted by reder
As for Chelsea concentrating on the Champions League, I wouldn't agree. Yes, they obviously want to win it but Ancelotti will know that the PL would be the easiest option for a major trophy in his first season. I think they have a squad capable of winning both anyway although it will be interesting to see how the African Nations effects them. It's between United and Chelsea for me, Liverpool's squad/(first XI??) just isn't strong enough.
United midfield is exceedingly poor, as Mr Kipling would say, the cake man I mean, as opposed to Rudyard. Liverpool may lack quality in that area but the blind work rate of the likes of Mascherano and Kuyt will get them through 99/100. Aquilana should bring something to that area, for 20m he should anyway. Chelsea have an outstanding midfield which is far superior to any other team in the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
Torres is the key for Liverpool. If he stays fit, game on. However, if he gets a bad injury or sequence of injuries and is out for 10-12 games in the season then Liverpool could easily be staring down the barrel of a 5th place finish. He is that good!
I think the Liverpool back 4 will sort itself out over the coming weeks. An awful lot of silly stuff been said about James lately. People will be eating their words in the upcoming weeks.
Chelsea early favourites at this point, followed by Liverpool and United. Liverpools first XI is easily as strong as UTD or Chelsea but the squad depth is the problem, they are badly short an alternative to Torres. Injuries could have a serious impact again this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
Utd look brittle and unbalanced in midfield to me, they dont have the Ronaldo outlet to take pressure off and score goals, plus will miss Tevez workrate upfront so the midfield will come under more pressure. I can see Chelsea and Liverpool dominating UTD in the head to heads.
Chelsea look slick and effective, strong in every department with decent options from the bench. How they cope during the African nations cup will determine their season. I''d be interested to see the fixtures during that period. Any Champions league games effected?
Too early for Arsenals young team but they will be serious contenders in a couple of years.
[QUOTE=reder;1237304]Torres is the key for Liverpool. If he stays fit, game on. However, if he gets a bad injury or sequence of injuries and is out for 10-12 games in the season then Liverpool could easily be staring down the barrel of a 5th place finish. He is that good!
Without a doubt totally agree. He is simply the best striker in the world at the moment. Workrate, movement off the ball, finishing the lot. Simply a joy to watch. Was at West Ham on saturday and was a pleasure to watch him in full flow. Just when people start to knock him (myself included) he makes you eat your words.
Hull City (A)Quote:
Originally Posted by Truth Meister
Sunderland (H)
Birmingham City (H)
Burnley (A)
Nothing too difficult there. They have Arsenal at home on Feb 6th but most if not all will be back by then.
Chelsea will win league comfortably this year (by 6 pts)...... man u will finish second and then it wide open .....
united's midfield isnt as bad as everyones saying it is. fletcher imo is the most under rated player in the league for the last 2 seasons. giggs showed he still has talent in abundance, i also think carrick is a top player, another player who has a lot of critics but id prefer him than mascherano who cant play football. scholes still contributes alot to the team, when he plays he makes an impact. valencia probably needs to get a good run in the team to show what hes like and nani aswell, theres clearly talent there.
i think its better than kuyt, mascherano, lucas and riera in midfield
He is not in the team to play silky football.Quote:
Originally Posted by CF1989
A friend of mine, who's a Pool fan, says he only hopes that United don't win it this season cos he knows Liverpool won't. I find that's the general feeling amongst Pool fans I meet face to face, especially after losing Alonso. I had a bet with the same fella after the 98/99 season that Liverpool wouldn't win the league in the next 10 yrs worth £100 (€127). It ended at the end of last season and he was disgusted. He felt at the time it ended a year too early as Liverpool were gonna win it this season, but after the summer's activities/or lack there of, he's has them completely written off. The Reds on here seem to have a far more positive outlook.
carrick breaks up the play aswel and has an end product unlik masceranoQuote:
Originally Posted by reder
Probably coz their match goers!Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
Mascherano is not in the team for an end product well from a defensive midfielders point of view he has which is why he's the best in that position in the league imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by CF1989
Think people that watch them on TV every week have a fair idea what's going on too, although I'm not entirely sure that's what you meant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rafa B
Give me Mascherano for the big games every time. He's brilliant in the big PL/European games against quality opposition. His biggest failing would probably be against the lesser teams I'd expect him to dictate play a bit, even if it's not his exact role. I'd prefer a fully fit Hargreaves to the two of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rafa B
Fletcher > Mascherano at that job in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rafa B