I read the (UK) Independent this morning and they said that Coleman was given a torrid time all night and gave away a penalty. I don't like reading that but please take note those shouting from the rooftops that Trap is ignoring him.
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I read the (UK) Independent this morning and they said that Coleman was given a torrid time all night and gave away a penalty. I don't like reading that but please take note those shouting from the rooftops that Trap is ignoring him.
However the English Telegraph reported,
'Everton were undone when Leon Osman and Bilyaletdinov were over-intricate in exchanging passes on half-way and with the otherwise impressive Coleman caught out-of-position'
'otherwise impressive'
and other players messing about dropped him in the can.
Back to the rooftops.
Coleman is a tremendous talent going forward, but he has (or should have) conceded two penalties in the past two games. Neither of these plays led to penalty goals, but I can't help but think had McShane conceded (or should have) two penalties in consecutive games we'd have multiple pages written up about it.
Not for one minute saying McShane is a superior player, just merely pointing out that some of Coleman's fans tend to have selective memories when talking about him.
I think he's going to be a great player for Ireland, he may just be a little raw at this point.
If we were to sit here and analyse every mistake an Irish player has made in the past then nobody of the current squad should be worth their place. Coleman is a fine player but how is he going to improve if he is not given a chance He is one of the best natural right backs in the country at the moment.
Still you're talking about a player who is fourth in the pecking order. JOSH is nailed on at the mo and even if he's moved centrally it's only right that Kelly and Foley, two players with more experience internationally and in Prem, are ahead of him. That's not even taking into account Trap's love of McShane...
I wouldn't say it's only right he's so far back in the pecking order. Cunningham has surpassed O'Dea for the left back slot despite having less experience at all levels, and that's not to mention Mark Kennedy who never made himself unavailable. If Trap becomes confident in Coleman's ability to play the system, he'll make the leap.
Seamus looks to be in the Gareth Bale mould. No bad thing at all, but his attacking prowess overshadows his defensive abilities right now and might suggest a future further up the pitch. Still young and inexperienced, mind.
When McShane played against Argentina, who were the fit alternatives? And do you think it's poss that he played as a favour from Trap since that was really a glam game?
Kelly should be 2nd choice, end of. When he came on in the italy away game for the last 10 mins he slotted in no hassles and had one great defensive moment if i remember correctly.
Coleman is young and a great prospect for the future. But right back is not so much a worry area
Hibbert's a doubt for tomorrow according to RTE so Seamus could get his first start:
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2010/...m_everton.html
And indeed he does start, best of luck to the lad.
Best of luck to Seamus 2day! Fingers crossed he'll do well!
Wonder if he'll be up against Duffer or Gera. Big step up for him either way.
Looks like he is playing Right Midfield.
Sky Sports have him at right back with Neville right midfield but I would be surprised if it wasnt the other way around
Yeah, Neville is playing full back.
came off on 88 minutes for Bilyaletdinov. Sky Sports text commentary said he had a good game
He had one great cross across the goal that Yakubu should have finished and a couple of shots from outside the box that were blocked. Other than that very cagey game and Fulham defended deep limiting his opportunities.
Unless I'm mistaken, isn't this the first game Coleman has started on the right side of midfield?
I think so. His first Premier League start outright.
Great stuff. I know that there were injuries to other players who could have played at right midfield, but it's a good sign that Moyes felt that he was able to fill in. It also shows that Seamus is very versatile. His debut for Everton was at left back (although he had a tough game), he's performed well at right back and he's a competent winger.
Don't you think Trap will look at him and see him as better option for right mid now? He has the attacking sense trap likes there but also has the defensive sense from being a regular full back.
I can't see Trap dropping Lawrence, he has far more experience than Coleman.
Long term, I can see him being our first choice right midfielder.
I don't think Coleman will be considered by Trap for right midfield after one or two emergency appearances there for Everton. Perhaps in the future, if we're struggling on the right side of midfield, but to me, he's a natural full back.
Here's Moyes' take on Coleman at right midfield today:
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archiv...match-reaction
"We have been striving, as everybody knows, to find a solution (down the right). We have had Billy [Bilyaletdinov] and Ossie [Osman] there, Victor [Anichebe] can play there when he is fit and obviously we had Landon for a spell last year but that is something we're looking to find a solution for. I don't think Seamus will prove to be the ultimate answer but he may be a short-term fix right now and who knows, he may become a player who can play there."
It'd be nice to have Coleman on the bench (in the short-term) to have as an option for defence or midfield. I think he needs a lot more experience to be an international starter.
He is at his best we overlapping as an attacking full back, thats where he has had his bet games for Everton.
I'm not convinced he's good enough to start, but if we needed a goal I think he'd be a good option off the bench to get things going in a stale or tight match.
Moyes' Coleman Hopes
David Moyes hopes that playing Seamus Coleman in midfield will make him a better full-back. Having appeared as a right full-back in Everton's two Carling Cup games this season, Coleman played on the right-hand-side of midfield at Fulham last weekend.
Everton boss Moyes believes experiencing games at the highest level will be of long term benefit to the Irish Under-21 international, while it also provides an additional attacking option now.
"I hope it might help him," said Moyes at his pre-match press conference ahead of the Birmingham game this weekend.
"I am trying to find a team that can get a result. He is very good at attacking, as people will have seen, at full-back. At times his defending hasn't been maybe what we want but that will come with time. He is really young in terms of time in the Premier League.
"A lot of people were shouting that he should start in the team, rightly so because he has done well," continued the manager. "But I think people who have seen him would maybe turn round and say it is the right decision to let him develop.
"If we can find a role for him in the team playing a bit further forward then great because we are short of a right-sider."
Moyes also spoke about the form of Yakubu, who returned to the team recently and turned in an encouraging performance at Craven Cottage.
"It's not a goal I need from him, it's 12 or 15 but he has got to start with one and get more," explained Moyes.
"He has had two-and-a-half games so he is getting his chances at the moment and he has to start delivering."
A great manager for Coleman to have at this stage of his career.
This is what I got from a work colleague who is a season ticket holder, i asked him whats the general opinion of him at everton:
" excellent
replacement for hibbert
future star for us i think
did well for Blackpool"
Drafted into the senior squad according to MNS.
yep, His call up confirmed here ....
http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=c...r-men&Itemid=8
Best of luck to him
Great news. Just as Coleman's club career is taking off, he is rewarded with a senior call-up. That will be a major confidence boost.
Delighted for him.
Yes, let's hope he cuts the mustard.
fantastic news financially (if/when he gets a cap) for Sligo Rovers too. And great for the profile of the league.
I hope you're pleased with yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Excellent news. He could do a job at RB and RM.
Fantastic news. This could be a memorable season for the lad.
Absolutely delighted, was becoming a bit concerned about Trap not calling up any of the promising youngsters albeit Cunningham. Hopefully get a few minutes in one of the games. Great opportunity for the lad.
For the millionth time I am delighted for Seamie fair play to him