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We'll take it, I was thinking SK needed a break and he didn't half get it with the og. Bazunu what a display, Omo excellent too. We could and should have been on the end of a hiding against a fine Serbian team but that result might have cost them outright qualification?
Yes we are limited but there are some good prospects coming up, trust the process, I'd much rather to have watched the game tonight than some of the horror shows thrown up in the last days of Trap and MON.
Yes, Randolph makes those saves. Another day we lose 5-0 given those chances though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
So all those games where Kenny was using the missed chances excuse you were saying the same thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
say what you like but one things for sure... sk and the team havnt lost the home crowd one bit...
Oh shut up. It certainly was not a very poor performance. Serbia are a better side than us, I don’t think anyone doubts that ? But we competed well with them at times, and never gave up. I think we deserved the point. I understand the criticism after Luxembourg and Azerbaijan, but some people seem determined to only see the negatives. And you can’t say the team aren’t playing for the manager either. Great effort tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trequartista20
Sorry, you won't draw me in. You can't impose that view on me. One is allowed to support Kenny without supporting everything he says or every decision he makes. I'm not into extremism.Quote:
Originally Posted by BOOMSHAKALAKA
Was it yourself that said it’s only the result that matters and not the manner of the performance? You and/or a few of your ilk were spouting that after our performance against Portugal. Surely the same applies in reverse? Or from Serbia’s perspective…Quote:
Originally Posted by BOOMSHAKALAKA
The adage is that a team is built first from the defence, at least we have that defence. Just need to fix the rest of our game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
On another day we get a penalty in Portugal to go 2 up, and the ref doesn’t add five minutes, and we take a couple of those chances against Azerbaijan to win comfortably. Works both ways you see.Quote:
Originally Posted by BOOMSHAKALAKA
If it's the result that matters, then the excuses previously used by Kenny should be brushed aside. That's the conclusion to your point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
No. I didn't say that.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Definitely went out to contain the Serbs with four central midfielders. I would also like to see a heatmap.for McClean and Doherty. I don't think it was particularly deep that they were but they did get pinned back for periods of Serbian pressure and Serbia were very good at pressurizing.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Kenny needs to figure out how we can retain solidity in midfield but still stretch sides. Knight is probably integral to that.
Think you might be seeing what you want to see there. It was hardly Keane and McCarthy after the Dutch game in 2001. In fact I didn’t see anything off about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
On another day Portugal win 4-1 you mean? Missed penalty, missed open goal, post.Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyD
What's the excuses for the other 15 games under Kenny. What happened v Luxembourg? Why can't this tactical genius have us scoring more than a few goals?
Maybe, yes. But I don't necessarily believe that inexcusable defeat means he should be sacked so you can't lead me to what you feel is the natural (though biased) conclusion here.Quote:
Originally Posted by BOOMSHAKALAKA
Kenny has played more than one formation. 541 is a good formation to play agasides who will dominate possession - we played the same in Faro.Quote:
Originally Posted by liamoo11
I'd imagine we will revert to 4 3 3 against sides we will expect to have more possession against.
I just don't see any signs of improvement or progression at all under Kenny, that's the most damning indictment I can make of his tenure so far. What we saw tonight is no different to what we saw in the first couple of matches.
We're ponderous, predictable and so very easy to play against. Even with 20 minutes to go in a match we had to win to keep our slim, slim qualification hopes alive and we were tapping the ball around at the back. It's dire to watch.
What does Kenny send his team's out to do? Because I have no idea. The ball is slowly, and to no obvious purpose, knocked around amongst the back three, giving the oposition all the time in the world to organise themselves defensively and mark our midfielders and forwards, played into a midfielder who's inevitably under pressure, and then the ball is either lost, hurriedly knocked back to one of the centre-halfs, or hit into one of the channels in a ball always favouring the opposition defence. Just awful.
There's no urgency, no creativity, no moves that look like they've come off the training ground. And other than Duffy's height at corners, we carry absolutely no goal threat. Tonight's goal was simply a freak occurance. Just what does Kenny do with his players all week on the training pitch.
We go into matches, seemingly, without any definitive game plan, we look too stretched out from front to back, with Idah often completely isolated. We often have three defenders, as well as the goalkeeper in close proximity in the penalty area, attempting to tap the ball around in a triangle, while the rest of the team is strung out across the park, the ball then often gets played back to Bazunu, who under pressure, then has to punt it long onto the head of one of the giant Serbian defenders. Honestly, what's the point?
Is this the 'good' football we keep hearing so much about? Because from what I've seen of us we're one of the most boring teams to watch around.
To be honest, Kenny could lose every single game and there would be those who won't admit that he should be sacked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
Even by my standards as a vocal critic of Kenny (and who wants him gone) you're coming across as very whiny.Quote:
Originally Posted by BOOMSHAKALAKA
We put in a decent shift. Serbia were better for long periods but that's because they're a better team. When you get a result against a better team you're doing something right. Yes, they could have scored more, and yes, the goal was lucky, but so what, that's Serbia's problem. You take what you get from games.
Positive in terms of the result, some very good individual performances, and team performance and belief in the last 10-15 minutes or so. Just a pity this is the last of the 3 games, and there isn't another home game 3 days from now.
Matter what happens to kenny, and I've no confidence in him but we will be incredibly grateful for his introduction to Andrew Omobamidele. He is going to be a star. If I had a choice if being his agent or gavins or troys. I would puck him all day.long