Georgia V Republic of Ireland - Tbilisi - 12th October 2019 - Euro 2020 Qualifier

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Originally Posted by The Fly

How much of a difference do people actually expect a new manager to make, given the players we've had over the last 10 years or so?

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Precisely. It's an awkward ******** of a place to go. Always has been.

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Originally Posted by The Fly

How much of a difference do people actually expect a new manager to make, given the players we've had over the last 10 years or so?

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We'll never know, considering that we keep appointing one stone age manager after another.

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Originally Posted by mark12345

Speaking about the second half, or halftime to be precise, Mick really needs to earn his keep with the decisions he makes. We need someone who can run at them. Substitute O'Dowda for Hourihane. Maguire for Robinson. He will never put Byrne on so no point in saying it

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Run at them? Stringing a few passes together would be a start.

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Originally Posted by The Fly

How much of a difference do people actually expect a new manager to make, given the players we've had over the last 10 years or so?

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I agree to some extent but all our previous managers have been too conservative playing tried and trusted journeymen and grafters instead of risking players that could have developed into something better. At worst they were unlikely to be any poorer.

If they don’t want to even attempt to play through the middle why not just go to 4-4-2? Could have left Collins on with Connolly beside him, Mick’s classic big man little man combo. Couldn’t be any worse!

Honestly, it seems like there is little in the way of an actual plan. Just 11 players trying to muddle through.

McCarthy telling Hourihane to slow it down. How could it be any slower?

That’s my point. If a new manager keeps picking the likes of Glenn Whelan and McClean you are going to get this.

The only difference is that the media scrutiny will not be as harsh. I expect Kenny to be a bit more radical when it comes to personnel. Only then will be see a major difference in playing style.

Georgia making a sub right on 89 minutes. Clever. Means we can't score in the 89th minute again

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Originally Posted by shakermaker1982

The only difference is that the media scrutiny will not be as harsh. I expect Kenny to be a bit more radical when it comes to personnel. Only then will be see a major difference in playing style.

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Crucially though, it also looks like Kenny is going to benefit from having much better young players at his disposal.

Connolly should've been brought on at half time. Look at the danger he's caused already.

Neither McClean nor Whelan are the problem in this game. Whelan has done his job all night and consistently been an option for the defence. Hourihane and Hendrick have been non existent in front of him which is where it's gone wrong.

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Originally Posted by backstothewall

Precisely. It's an awkward ******** of a place to go. Always has been.

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In fairness mick is picking whelan instead of McCarthy and picking mcclean instead of Brady or o dowda and today Collins instead of Connolly .these are his choices how is that not his fault?

Georgia are a poor side, other than a couple of tidy midfielders they didn’t offer much. Ireland appalling, Mick incompetent. No point wasting time dissecting things. Let’s focus on the Kenny era.

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Originally Posted by tommy_c12000

Georgia are a poor side, other than a couple of tidy midfielders they didn’t offer much. Ireland appalling, Mick incompetent. No point wasting time dissecting things. Let’s focus on the Kenny era.

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I wouldn't call Georgia a poor side. They're just let down by poor forwards.

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Originally Posted by backstothewall

Neither McClean nor Whelan are the problem in this game. Whelan has done his job all night and consistently been an option for the defence. Hourihane and Hendrick have been non existent in front of him which is where it's gone wrong.

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That is totally not true. Whelan has not showed for the ball or made a forward accurate pass. The hoof over his head at the end for Connolly was pure luck. He also has been horrible defensively getting caught crazily for his booking and giving us no control in midfield. McCarthy last weekend showed how a reasonably competent midfielder goes about their job

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Originally Posted by backstothewall

Neither McClean nor Whelan are the problem in this game. Whelan has done his job all night and consistently been an option for the defence. Hourihane and Hendrick have been non existent in front of him which is where it's gone wrong.

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I disagree. They limit, define and disfigure the way we play. They are statements of intent. They embody a philosophy of limited ambition, graft, honest endeavour and the famous fighting Irish spirit. They are footballing throwbacks, primitives who lack guile technique and imagination. Hendricks and Hourihane are not world beaters but they might prosper in a team whose effectiveness is not blighted by a couple of footballing Neanderthals.

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Originally Posted by The Fly

I wouldn't call Georgia a poor side. They're just let down by poor forwards.

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But in the wider sense, considering the top tier sides etc; surely they are below average? I certainly wouldn’t call them average. Nice midfielders, no penetration up front and leaky defense who were there for the taking, with a dodgy keeper. That’s them at more or less full strength apart from one player

That was shocking!
Hendrick and McClean were very poor on the ball.
I’d have brought on Connolly and half time and replaced Hendrick with Byrne on the hour.
What was the logic in Williams replacing Hourihane when we were chasing a goal?

https://twitter.com/FAIreland/status/1183032804046753794?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

I really like the updates from FAI on twitter. But calling it a “valuable away point” has brought an amusing backlash from the fans