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"Rovers chairman Jonathan Roche has admitted that the Oriel Park affair, where riot police were deployed to deal with a small section of the Rovers support who almost caused the abandonment of the Premier Division game, a 2-1 win for league leaders Dundalk."Quote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
What has he admitted I wonder...can foot.ie enlighten us?
(c'mon...it's a free shot ;) )
I'm digging no such hole friend because I'm in no way trying to start a ****ing contest of who did what worse and more, my sole point is ALL of the major clubs have issues and it is ALL our resposibilities to ensure that this foolish element is stamped out. This scapegoating is absurd, its almost like all the sharks on here and in the media smell blood and are circling for the kill. Unfortunitly the minnowism in the league of Ireland is widespread, its a case of when one club start to excell the fans of the other want to drag them back down, that goes for all LOI clubs mine included.Quote:
Originally Posted by saint dog
Are you trying to come accross as moronic or is it just the natural demenure of your posts? are you infact a Shamrock Rovers fan or perhaps somebody on a PR wrecking ball mission?
Here is the FACTS about the Maldron and the support involed. The last match we had against Dundalk was the evening of the Manchester United and Liverpool match the Dundalk fans were WELCOMED into the Maldron and watched the 2nd half of that match there with us, surely other then Bohs the Shamrock Rovers Hooligans would want agro with Dudalk seeing as they too have the rep of being "holigans" but there wasn't an ounce of trouble either in or around the ground. I sujest you get your facts straight before you lie through your teeth.
Self defence perhaps?Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
Perhaps:Quote:
Originally Posted by Scooby Doo
Dudalks Scum element
Bohemians Scum element
Pats Scum element
Shels Scum element (if they have any elements left these days of the discover ireland league)
Every other teams Scum element?
Some small points, there reason that the psycho who invaded the picth in Tallaght is being denounced is beacuse he wasn't recognised by any of the rovers regulars, obviously this isn't a definite criteria for being a fan or not but either way fan or not the club put their hands up and took the blame, a fan entering the playing area is the problem of the hosting club, as is controling all visiting supporters.
The term "Riot" in this instance is a slight overstatment, I think the term that should be applied is crowd disturbance. Riot/Disturbance
Everyone knows Shamrock Rovers should have sorted these morons out years ago, its always the same cretins. Its their own fault at the end of the day. Every sport has a minority of morons but what really ****es me off is stuff like i heard tonight on FM104.
Adrian Kennedy on his chav station tonight “you wouldn't see that at Croke Park with the GAA, and they get 80,000 fans ”. Really Adrian you mongo. A ref got attacked by GAA fans only a few weeks ago and it got less attention than what happened in Dundalk. That ****es me off, from second rate newspapers to bad radio stations, you have idiots that use the rovers incident against Dundalk, to say how bad 'hooliganism' in Irish football is. They trod out the line "wont see that in GAA or Rugby":rolleyes:
You can head into plenty of places in town after a rugby game and see rowdy rugby fans. You'd never see Rugby thugs doing what happened in Dundalk, no, they'd outnumber some young lad and kick him to death outside a nightclub.
Would a cop call someone an “oranges *******”at GAA or Rugby game? No, if he did it would be all over the paper but its ok for a cop to call a Glentoran fan an “orange *******”? No its not, its Irish football though so they get away it.:confused: Mad stuff.
Maybe somebody in the media will some day have the courage to stand up and tell it how it is, they'd probably prefer to live like sheep though, don't want to upset the apple cart.
While I agree with the underpinning sentiment you're expressing - "public outrage" fanned by the media, you're being a little too precious about Irish football. Or maybe you switch on/off after/before coverage of GAA and Rugby comes on the Irish news. A row at a GAA match grabs massive headlines and handwringing ensues. A cheating rugby coach gives fake blood to a player and the whole sport is called into question - or maybe you forgot BOD's spearing and the "outrage" the kept on in Ireland, actually is still going. There is no media conspiracy against Irish football, or GAA, or Rugby, or tennis or any other sport. But as was said in Michael Moore's Bowling for Columbine - "If it bleeds it leads". The Irish media has grown uncomfortably close to the mainland (ie GB) and some of the sensationalism is shocking. If what happened in Oriel happened up the road in Dowdalshill at a club hurling match, for sure there'd be media outrage, Joe Duffy and co would make a fortune! It wasn't biased journalists or media hacks going at gardai and making idiots of themselves, but a bunch of halfheads who are dragging the sport down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quadruple1928
As for slurs in other sports - an Armagh man playing for a Dublin club gets called a "Northern s@@t" and "Orange p@@@k" and suddenly GAA fans are racist, backwards and ridiculed in the mass media. That the man offering the abuse is a local teacher was picked up on and hammered home.
Schools rugby was vilified when the young lad was killed outside the nightclub, and torn apart to such an extent that sponsors pulled out of the LSC, yet life went on.
Na Fianna objected to the abuse of their non-local player and the Dublin County Board and opposing club acted swiftly and banned the individual for 12 months from all GAA activities.
If Shamrock Rovers did the same then the issue would be heralded as a new way forward. Trying to deflect is just another way to leave the cycle unbroken.
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The difference is the coverage the likes of the GAA get the rest of the time, compared to football. Domestic Football only leads the news when it's bad news.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spudulika
Spot on macy. There is absolutely an anti LOI agenda in certain newspapers. Journalists who love the league will confirm this (off the record obviously) with tales of editors and sub editors butchering their stuff, and changing whole articles
If your going to be a smart arse at least identify the right person.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
What "riot"???Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
The pitch invader is banned from the stadium.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spudulika
Hopefully the same thing will happen for the people involved in Dundalk. Although as Bohs supporters know well from their trips to Tallaght, supposedly banned supporters have a knack of always turning up to away games anyway.
Aw, this thread has gone all serious again. The radio quotes on the last page were cracking me up.
well, the riot police weren't called in to deal with an over exuberant display of manners, where they?
"Riot" is probably an excessve term; suppose that's what you expect the riot squad to be dealing with. But you know what I mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoops_R_Us
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Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
Don't think that was Jonathan Roche afaik - guy called Carpenter wasn't it?
can you tell me where the lies areQuote:
Originally Posted by BluSonic
The rest of the posts in this thread are going to need to be 100% factual, with sources.
Everything else will be deleted.
Round of applause for the FAI, who really know how to defuse situations. Tomorrow night's fourth official in Tallaght Stadium is . . . Damien Hancock (back page today's Star).
The referee is none other than Neil Doyle (http://www.airtricityleague.com/inde...e-appointments), who controversially sent off United's captain Barry Ryan against Pats 2 weeks ago, claiming Ryan had deliberately aimed for him when kicking the ball, and hasn't reffed a game since. You couldn't make it up . . .
Sorry about that, the "right" person was of course Mr Carpenter, Board Member and Trustee.Quote:
Originally Posted by hoops1
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/HOOPS+.....-a0148522933
This link has all the details. I was going to copy and paste the article but I've gotten into trouble for doing that before. :(
are you trying to suggest that Bohemians are deliberately selling tickets to trouble makers for Tallaght games? We actually tend to work with clubs to prevent trouble makers from gaining admittance at away grounds. As i said in a previous post, mistakes are sometimes made. Its pretty hard to get it right 100% of the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by stovelid
All a club can do is try and it seems that all SRFC or its fans wants to do is make excuses. As tallaghthoop says, the sooner this attitude changes the better.