Win or Bust for Bohs

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19/07/2009, 1:34 PM
BohsPartisan

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Originally Posted by Ezeikial

Unfortunately, for many Bohs fans, the emergence from this "bubble" is a recent phenomenon. I have visited the Bohs forum and until recently it was very hard to find many dissenting voices among the din of "we are invincible"

While I agree that the majority of Bohs fans had their head in the sand, a lot of forum regulars didn't. However you don't have access to our private members sub-forum so you wouldn't see a lot of that.
19/07/2009, 2:05 PM
Ezeikial

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Originally Posted by SkStu

On reading that further i should have said originally that at that time we had an agreement with other clubs (Cork, Derry??) not to pay more than e1000 per week to players.

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

I'm surprised no-ome else has raised this.

Wouldn't such an above agreement be against EU law - effectively a cartel to suppress wages in a certain sector within Ireland ?

If such an agreement were actual in place perhaps it could be open to challenge - but I suspect that this is hypothetical. All the indications are that Faz and O'Donnell were signed on significantly more then this, while Ndo, Keegan and Shelley are hardly on less then �40k when the average Bohs wages are estimated (underestimated?) at �70k by the Indo.

There is a irony about the fact that the three clubs reported to have made this agreement, are the ones making most negative financial headlines some months later.
19/07/2009, 7:07 PM
brianw82

Something that I don't think has been raised here - weren't all the Bohs players who accepted the pay cut at the start of the season given an extra year on their contracts as compensation?
19/07/2009, 10:15 PM
BohsPartisan

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Originally Posted by brianw82

Something that I don't think has been raised here - weren't all the Bohs players who accepted the pay cut at the start of the season given an extra year on their contracts as compensation?

No that's not the case.
20/07/2009, 2:38 PM
marinobohs

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Originally Posted by mcgonigle

They are found out, every Tom, Dick and Harry in this country knows they don't go about their business in the right way, people are annoyed that nothing seems to be done about it and not because it Bohs but because it's a club making a mockery out of the league.
At the end of the day every LOI fan wants to see LOI teams do well in Europe but they also want to see the ones who constantly break the rules punished appropriately and from the way Bohs have gone about their business, the only fair punishment is relegation just like Shels got. But I do hope they survive and come back for the few good Bohs fans that I know

for the 1000 time Bohs have not broken any rules yet if, at the end of the season we are over the 65% rule then (as many Bohs contributors have said) we will face the appropriate sanctions, if not in breach of it then no sanctions apply end of story. Why Dundalk fans have so much difficulty understanding this is, frankly, quite scary.

Perhaps Bohs V Dundalk - played 3 Wins 3 for 8 against 0 is a possible backdrop ?
21/07/2009, 12:05 PM
passinginterest

Definitive proof that Bohs are about to be relegated.
http://www.ucfl.ie/docs/Divisions200910.xls
See division 2A, seems a bit harsh to send them all the way to UCFL, then again they will be pretty broke :)
21/07/2009, 1:09 PM
The Betting Man

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Originally Posted by passinginterest

Definitive prove that Bohs are about to be relegated.
http://www.ucfl.ie/docs/Divisions200910.xls
See division 2A, seems a bit harsh to send them all the way to UCFL, then again they will be pretty broke :)

And we will still have our local derby with Rovers as well
21/07/2009, 1:15 PM
passinginterest

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Originally Posted by The Betting Man

And we will still have our local derby with Rovers as well

Ha just noticed that, could be a good derby there.

Do you know anything about the team? Is it being set up by Bohs fans, and did they ask to be in the same division as Glenmalure Rovers? :D
21/07/2009, 1:45 PM
The Betting Man

Its being set up by Bohs fans and most if not all of the team are Bohs fans. This is the 1st season the team have been together so they thought that they would get Div 3 seeing as they are new but the league didnt see it like that and put them into Div 2a which seems a bit harsh. I wonder will PaddyPower have prices on the big derby in Div 2a :)
21/07/2009, 2:43 PM
passinginterest

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Originally Posted by The Betting Man

Its being set up by Bohs fans and most if not all of the team are Bohs fans. This is the 1st season the team have been together so they thought that they would get Div 3 seeing as they are new but the league didnt see it like that and put them into Div 2a which seems a bit harsh. I wonder will PaddyPower have prices on the big derby in Div 2a :)

The difference in standard between 2 and 3 in UCL is fairly marginal, I've played in division 2 and in 3b and my 3b team has knocked a few division 2 teams out of the cup. Only the top two divisions are much stronger, the rest tend to have a couple of strong teams and a lot of average ones.

Anyway gone miles off topic now.
Despite the mismanagement of the past I hope Bohs win tomorrow and survive the season and the new board can put them on a more sustainable long term path.
22/07/2009, 8:45 PM
Mr A

Win or bust for Bohs? Uh oh.
22/07/2009, 8:50 PM
Hairy Bowsie

Bust it is and it's going to be the biggest bust we've seen since Jordans last boob job :D
22/07/2009, 8:52 PM
prince20

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Originally Posted by Hairy Bowsie

Bust it is and it's going to be the biggest bust we've seen since Jordans last boob job :D

Hope not just to shut clowns like you up.
22/07/2009, 8:55 PM
Candystripe

Couldn't be arsed to read through the whole thread,but does this mean an exodus of players from Dalymount?
22/07/2009, 8:58 PM
Mr A

It really should. This league is such a mess it's untrue.
22/07/2009, 8:59 PM
sonofstan

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Originally Posted by Candystripe

Couldn't be arsed to read through the whole thread,but does this mean an exodus of players from Dalymount?

it would have happened anyway, unless we'd gotten to the group stages of either competition. Nearly everyone is out of contract in November. Mind you, where will they go?

Whatever happens, Bohs will survive.
22/07/2009, 9:00 PM
Rovers fan

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Originally Posted by CharlesThompson

You seem to suggest that Bohs supporters are living in some Shels like bubble when it comes to our club. If you bothered to visit our MB and spend some time reading posts going back YEARS, you would see that the vast majority of Bohs supporters are incredibly concerned at the state of our club off the field of play.

Twas a good post but this bit I don't agree with. If the "vast majority" of bohs fans have been so concerned, for years, how were things allowed to continue as they did:confused:
22/07/2009, 9:03 PM
Umberside

And here comes the third exodus in 3 years.

2007- Shelbourne
2008- Drogheda United
2009- Bohemians
22/07/2009, 9:08 PM
sonofstan

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Originally Posted by Rovers fan

Twas a good post but this bit I don't agree with. If the "vast majority" of bohs fans have been so concerned, for years, how were things allowed to continue as they did:confused:

it wasn't a vast majority, but it went from the small minority who voted against the Danninger deal (2006), to a majority who voted in a largely new board at the last AGM - and most of the Bohs fans that i know who post here have been part of that group since the beginning.
22/07/2009, 9:18 PM
Partizan

Its bust for the Bozos.

Good night Irene :D

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