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12/03/2009, 10:13 PM
Closed Account 2

The only Arsenal penalty that really impressed me was Kolo Toure where he raced in from virtually the center circle and pinged it low into the corner. I think that approach is the best way for a non specialist to take a penalty, just lash it low hard and fast, that way - assuming it's on target - the keeper has to get a fair bit of his body behind it to stop it. I feel a bit sorry for Eduardo, he jittered to try and see which way Doni would go but the Roma keeper didnt commit himself - and he lost all momentum when it came to striking the ball as he'd paused his run up.

Of Roma's takers I thought Montella (right in the corner) Aquilani and Baptista (given his treatment by the crowd) hit good kicks.
13/03/2009, 9:07 AM
OwlsFan

Don't remind me about keepers going the wrong way for penos. I will never forget Given going the wrong way for all 5 in Korea :(
13/03/2009, 9:22 AM
Pike B

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Originally Posted by OwlsFan

Don't remind me about keepers going the wrong way for penos. I will never forget Given going the wrong way for all 5 in Korea :(

Ya, what was that about?? I really fancied he'd stop a few. Oh well, he's still class.
13/03/2009, 1:45 PM
Closed Account 2

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Originally Posted by OwlsFan

Don't remind me about keepers going the wrong way for penos. I will never forget Given going the wrong way for all 5 in Korea :(

To be fair with Mendieta's he came so close to flicking it over with his shin...
I always think it's best if a keeper stays pretty central for penalties especially in shoot outs where, as you start getting down the order, the kickers are less and less set piece specialists.

If a keeper stays upright as long as possible he can try and see which way the ball is going, if it's either slow, or not right in the upper corners, he should be able to get something on it. Also shoot outs are where big keepers (physically tall etc) come into their own, Buffon, Der Saar, Kahn, Dida* all have big frames and all are good at saving PKs.

*Granted Dida is pretty crummy at conventional keeping...
13/03/2009, 1:50 PM
Steve Bruce

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Originally Posted by cfdh_edmundo

To be fair with Mendieta's he came so close to flicking it over with his shin...
I always think it's best if a keeper stays pretty central for penalties especially in shoot outs where, as you start getting down the order, the kickers are less and less set piece specialists.

If a keeper stays upright as long as possible he can try and see which way the ball is going, if it's either slow, or not right in the upper corners, he should be able to get something on it. Also shoot outs are where big keepers (physically tall etc) come into their own, Buffon, Der Saar, Kahn, Dida* all have big frames and all are good at saving PKs.

*Granted Dida is pretty crummy at conventional keeping...

Van Der Sar has never won a penalty shoot out competition when it's mattered until last seasons CL final.

He is woeful at penalties. But in general your point stands up. Pepe Reina is good at pens as well.
13/03/2009, 2:12 PM
Stuttgart88

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Originally Posted by cfdh_edmundo

To be fair with Mendieta's he came so close to flicking it over with his shin...
I always think it's best if a keeper stays pretty central for penalties especially in shoot outs where, as you start getting down the order, the kickers are less and less set piece specialists.

If a keeper stays upright as long as possible he can try and see which way the ball is going, if it's either slow, or not right in the upper corners, he should be able to get something on it. Also shoot outs are where big keepers (physically tall etc) come into their own, Buffon, Der Saar, Kahn, Dida* all have big frames and all are good at saving PKs.

*Granted Dida is pretty crummy at conventional keeping...

Cech has a poor record in shoot outs.

Apparently Niall Quinn was superb at it.
13/03/2009, 8:11 PM
DeLorean

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Originally Posted by Steve Bruce

Van Der Sar has never won a penalty shoot out competition when it's mattered until last seasons CL final.

Not true. Holland v Sweden Euro 2004.

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Originally Posted by Steve Bruce

He is woeful at penalties.

Ok this didn't really matter but still impressive enough. Hardly woeful anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXtiWM20O0M
14/03/2009, 1:45 AM
NeilMcD

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Originally Posted by BarelyLegal

Not true. Holland v Sweden Euro 2004.

Ok this didn't really matter but still impressive enough. Hardly woeful anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXtiWM20O0M

Ha ha classic fair play barely legal.
14/03/2009, 10:46 AM
Neish

When is the draw for quater finals?
14/03/2009, 2:38 PM
Closed Account 2

friday 20th lunchtime, same time as uefa cup draw.
14/03/2009, 3:01 PM
Mr Maroon

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Originally Posted by cfdh_edmundo

Also shoot outs are where big keepers (physically tall etc) come into their own, Buffon, Der Saar, Kahn, Dida* all have big frames and all are good at saving PKs.

I'd say penalties are Buffon's only weak area. He saves relatively few considering how good he is overall.
14/03/2009, 3:46 PM
Closed Account 2

He did alright in Euro 2008, saved from Mutu in normal time (the only regular penalty saved in the competition) and from Gueiza in the shoot out vs Spain. He saved Kaladze and Seedorf in the 2003 Champions League final...
20/03/2009, 10:19 AM
The Good Son

Villareal v Arsenal
Man.Utd. v Porto
Liverpool v Chelsea
Barca v Bayern

Semi's 1v2 & 3v4
20/03/2009, 10:28 AM
RonnieB

Handy draw for Utd, Liverpool vs Chelsea for the 10,000th time...
20/03/2009, 10:31 AM
reder

Villareal v Arsenal
Man. Utd v Porto
Liverpool v Chelsea
Barca v Bayern
20/03/2009, 2:25 PM
Shilts

ManU to beat Arsenal in the semi
Liverpool to beat Barca in the other semi

Liverpool to beat ManU in the final... and then I woke up :D
20/03/2009, 2:32 PM
DmanDmythDledge

Barca to beat Man Utd in the final.
20/03/2009, 2:51 PM
Shilts

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Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

Barca to beat Man Utd in the final.

I'd be happy with that :D (ManU to lose) but I think the winner of the Chelsea/Liverpool tie will be too strong for the Catalans
20/03/2009, 3:02 PM
Pike B

Man Utd are the poxiest shower of @uck�ng @astar&s this side of the moon...

Talk about your handy draw.

Liverpool have it all to do.
20/03/2009, 3:03 PM
Shilts

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Originally Posted by Pike B

Man Utd are the poxiest shower of @uck�ng @astar&s this side of the moon...

Talk about your handy draw.

Liverpool have it all to do.

100% agree

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