Why didnt he refer to Cyprus as 'Southern Cyprus' or 'Greek Cypriot' or Four Districts.
Idiot.
Why didnt he refer to Cyprus as 'Southern Cyprus' or 'Greek Cypriot' or Four Districts.
Idiot.
Rubbish. Liam miller has never lived up to the promise he showed at Celtic.He is far too light weight and inconsistent and there is a least three mistakes in him per game.We can not afford this. If Trap played Whelan who deserves his place after the last two performances and Miller in the centre of midfield we could be destroyed. Anyway I am delighted he is not playing as he does not merit it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ciaran
Wow, this is a very brave decision.
I'm glad Miller isn't there and I had an inkling that Trap realised Miller just doesn't have the physicality required. "Neat and tidy but no more" is how Radio 5 Live described him on his debut for United against Chelsea and I think it's a fair assessment. Ciaran is right in one sense - he did play a blinder at Arsenal last year, but as part of a 5 man midfield. A 4 man midfield containing Miller is never going to cut it at international level.
Also, too many times have I seen him carelessly over or under hit passes that should be routine for a central midfielder. Too many times have I seen him turn into trouble instead of away from it. One thing that has impressed me about Glenn Whelan is his ability to receive the ball in tight situations and come out with the ball at his feet. It's a prerequisite for a midfielder. Miller has never convinced me in this regard.
Trap obviously sees something different in Gibson. For a start he's a taller more athletic player. I was more than half expecting Joey O'Brien to deputise for Steven Reid. Funny thing is, I'd have thought Owen Garvan is a better version of Darron Gibson and yet he's not in the squad.
One definite positive: it puts the "we-know-it-all-about-Trap-after-3-games" brigade in the Irish press firmly in their place!
Brave call, I hope it's a good one. It certainly places more responsibility on Whelan. If this move comes off it will bode well for the future as we have other midfielders of Gibson's stature not far off a call up.
I agree that Garvan would be a great addition to the squad.
I can't believe that mcShane is starting - up to now he has often been worth a goal to the opposition- hope his time at Hull is heralding in a new era (though own goal AGAIN last week)!
A decision that is equally worrying and fascinating.Glad Miller is not there.I just don't believe he will ever be as good as we need him to be.
I agree Garvan must be close, especially since we are not overly blessed with players in this position/
A Manager who has a clear picture in his head about how he wants the team structured.As, has been said on here numerous times-this brings both strenghts and potential weaknesses to our set up.
Best of luck Darren.A big task.
I just hope Trapp is flexible enough to bring on Andy Reid, if things aren't looking good after an hours play.
Surely to actually prove yourself at the highest level you have to play well at the highest level more than sporadically?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ciaran
It looks like McShane will play beside Dunne. I am very very nervous about this. Centre back is one of the most important positions in the team and McShane is not the answer. He has got to leave the Dunne/O'Shea partnership and if he is nervous about playing McShane at right back because of a danger man then he should put someone else in there and not O'Shea ,who imo is a better centre than a right or left back. Anyway Trap knows best but it’s not going to do my nerves any good.
This is massive gamble. Someone who has played very little first team football in some time and whose experience is limited almost entirely to the Championship and Belgian League.
It's an intriguing move alright and an exciting one at that. Gibson was poor on his debut but I think that was as much down to the political farce that surrounded his call-up and Stan era tactics in the Slovakia game. Having played his way into the team by impressing a world-class manager in training, and in a B international, his confidence will be sky-high. I hope he dominates tomorrow.
[quote=Stuttgart88;1040098]Wow, this is a very brave decision.
, I'd have thought Owen Garvan is a better version of Darron Gibson and yet he's not in the squad.
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Gibson and Garvan were in the B squad together last week and Trap got a good chance to compare them, I trust his judgement.... although I dont think Garvan is too far away from the squad either
Unfair on him, was very little he could do about it. I love McShanes attitude, but his decision making is very poor at times. I do think he will develop into a good player though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia
Miller is too lightweight and does not have enough creativity or threat to make up for his shortcomings.
Brave call by Trap and hope it works.Lets give the team as much support as possible.Surely if we need some creativity Andy Reid will get his chance.
I use to feel a lot things before games but these days I feel confident with Trap. His assuredness is rubbing off on the team, most visible atm in the performances of Whelan and O'Shea. And Duff is back.
Not even sure where to begin. Just not worth the effort.Quote:
Originally Posted by thepiedpiper
Trapattoni
Trapattoni said: 'At the moment, we are missing Steven Reid and his physical aspect. Also, we need big players.
'Robbie [Keane] is not big, but springs well, and [Kevin] Doyle also. But [Aiden] McGeady is little, [Damien] Duff is little.
'In international football, teams score goals from high balls.
'The first reason is his [Gibson's] height, the second is he plays with confidence.
'He doesn't play very often, but he plays for Manchester United, and Manchester United is a very important team.
'He is confident on the ball. He plays the easy ball and he looks before the ball comes. For me, that is a good quality.
'But we also have Miller, who played against Colombia and has played in other games and played well.
'I have that possibility.'
McShane will have the benefit of Dunne next to him. One bit of credit I will give him is his willingness to get in front of anything and everything. if nothing else, he will not be intimidated by the Cypriots. Mind you, if our midfield collapses then he simply doesn't have the pace to cope and we're in serious trouble.
But in fact we do know everything about Trap. He has shown that whatever the availability of players etc, he will stick to the same system. So there will only ever be 'like for like' replacements. I sort of support this, International football is so irregular that it will help that the players know what they will be doing when they turn up. It does mean that A reid will struggle to get on the team as I don't see him as a winger (of the type Trap wants) or a striker. Also, no surpirse the baldy granny killer doesnt want to come back either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Agreed.Players seem to be very sure of what role is expected off them and hopefully this will continue under young Darron.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Who would have thought a year ago thtat this would be our midfield combo, and that Whelan would be the senior partner??
Paul McShane desperatley needs to play well and more importantly not make crucial mistakes which has unfortunatley cost us .
Following the Staunton era its great to have sense of anticipation before these games again.
There we have it, in simple language for everyone to understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
Trap's judgement is to be trusted. I'm happy with Gibson playing tomorrow.
Big gamble but glad Miller's not playing, he's proved in the past he's not up to it.
And given that McShane has been playing right back for Hull and doing well I'd expect to see him line out there rather then beside Dunne tomorrow.....
Gibson was solid for Wolves last season, he played away to Slovakia and Trapp saw him play against Forest. Fergie also sees something in him. I think Trapp will give him simple & clear instructions and responsibilities. Gibson is a natural footballer, hopefully he will hold his nerve and play well. And he has a cracker of a shot as well!