whats your definition of nationality.i think thats the issue here that people have a problem with.
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whats your definition of nationality.i think thats the issue here that people have a problem with.
Skstu - Whats your definition of the like of Kilbane? The Scot-Irish equivalent, You didnt answer me?
Genuinely interested, not looking to stir.
Having seen the United-Liverpool game, I think James would walk into both their teams. I also think he would comfortably get into the Arsenal team. Maybe I'm biased because he's an Irish international, but I would be amazed if he isn't playing for a top 6 club this time next year.
Sorry Junior, didnt mean to avoid answering the question. Nobody really properly responded to my Morrisson/Keown question either so i thought maybe we were dealing in hypotheticals... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Junior
With regards to Kilbane, my feelings are well known on him as a servant to the Irish team. As you would see in his thread, I think he is an Irish legend. I love the guy. Part of the reason i love him so much is that as an English born person, he so thoroughly embraced his Irishness, the part of him that is Irish. But both his parents were Irish, right? He would tend to have a more genuine affinity? Maybe im wrong. In all honesty, if someone referred to him as English id pull them up on it and point out how Irish he was but, at the end of the day, i wouldnt be too surprised if someone relied on his birthplace to argue evidence of his nationality and try to claim him as a "Plastic".
I just want to point out again that i only claimed that it is pretty reasonable for a person born in Scotland to scottish parents and who grew up in Scotland as "a Scot". Despite others sensitivities, i wasnt discrediting James' irishness or the Irishness of any other person who has played footie for us.
The Scot (sorry, couldn't resist) conceded a penalty to Sunderland today. Handball from a free kick. I just seen it on the halftime show and it was a definite penalty, he had both arms extended and the ball hit the right hand. Very silly but sh!t happens.
That's that infamous Scottish indiscipline showing through.
Wigan dropping into the bottom 3 as things stand with Reading beating Newcastle.
It was a definite penalty, but I thought the ball hit his arm, which he had protecting his face instead of his balls, therefore one could say it was in an unnatural position.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
In the 2nd half he played well, driving Wigan forward.
Players in the wall should be allowed to wear crash helmets.
I have an Irish passport but part of the problem is lack of knowledge. How can one consider themselves of a certain nation if they know little about it. Ill give you an example. I was on the train one time when i was over there for a summer about 20 years ago with relatives. And, I was watching the list of upcoming stops, and I asked what Done-LowGare was. And they were all like Its not pronounced that way, and its where you have been living the last 3 weeks, and the other times you were here....its where you live. Idiot.
But im sure young James could pronounce it.
Now, whos betting on the Ravens later? They're getting 8 and a half. Vegas is begging people to take them b/c they think its going to be like 55-21 NE. And so do I.
This thread gets odder and odder...
Nice little assist for the first Stoke goal here. Also started the move for Wigan's first.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xx4...9#.UQjF7r9LO9E
That Stoke goal was a calamity of errors which didn't involve Caldwell, he could only watch helplessly at what was happening in front of him.
This was an entertaining game the best I've seen Wigan play all season, maybe they can string together a few similar performances.
McCarthy stood back a bit and allowed McArthur (Wigan's Scottish midfielder) to have his day in the limelight.
He has to leave in this window... doesn't he?
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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Replacement of removed video, but UK only perhaps.
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/p...160435592.html
He's in no way to blame for the first.
Not only will he not move but why would a ROI supporter want him to move? He's playing regularly, having a good season and has come on a lot under Martinez. So if you get your wish and he does move there is a good chance he will be sitting on the bench at a 'bigger' club when are World Cup qualifiers in the spring come around. I know where I would prefer him to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
I really really really hate Wigan and Martinez so pretty much every comment re them will be irrational and biased.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roberto
You are right wrt it being good for Ireland. But still. Irrationality and bias always wins out.
What did Martinez and Wigan ever to do to you? I think Martinez is a nice bloke and Wigan are a decent, well run club.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
Nice try, Roberto.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roberto
Seriously, I'm a little lost as I don't come on here too often. But what's the problem with Martinez?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Well for starters, he has the same name as you... think about it. Take as long as you need.
Don't know wtf you are on about but if this is the standard of your contributions to this board I'm obviously not missing much by not visiting too often.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
Dead right Roberto. That's a nailed on summary.
Though the initials 'BS' are a giveaway.
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Originally Posted by Roberto
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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
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Originally Posted by Roberto
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Originally Posted by BonnieShels
You called Roberto Martinez a nice guy. Your username is Roberto. Charlie made a mildly amusing observation of that fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roberto
Untwist your knickers.
Unusually more active today and full of hot air. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Who, you or geysir?
geysir...Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Whoosh...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...and_2005-6.JPG
Has everyone lost their senses of humour?
No, I haven't, the joke was there, in the "or" part.
This could easily turn into some sort of feedback loop.
Chelsea's pre match scouting report on Wigan got leaked http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/...17_632x844.jpg
Here's what they had to say about McCarthy:
Good young central midfielder who is excelling at Wigan due to lots of game time. Excels at maintaining possession and build up play, but lacks ability in final third. Two footed player who always gives his teammates an option. He's in a position which requires a decent level of tackling, which is one flaw in his game; don't be afraid to run at him. Overall, a player with real potential and flourishes when playing alongside McArthur.
Hard to argue with that.
Interesting he got the longest explanation of all. Not sure if that's because they rate him highest or thought he was the man they could get the most change from.
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Good young central midfielder who is excelling at Wigan due to lots of game time.
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The first line of that report should be printed out, duplicated, and handed out to every Irish schoolboy who ever is considering offers from Liverpool, Chelsea, Man United et al.
If McCarthy had taken Liverpool's offer, I don't think he'd be anywhere near the Irish first XI right now. Squad maybe, but not a starter, as he is now.
He got 2 excels in that blurb. He excels and is excelling.
Good point with him and McArthur, it's becoming clearer that him and Whelan don't gel so good.
The simple fact is you will never see the best of McCarthy while Trap is in charge. He has been excellent for Wigan this season while distinctly average for Ireland and it is very easy to work out why. Wigan's game suits him while with Ireland the game passes him by. The positive is that he is still young while Trap won't be around too much longer.
Then, maybe. What about now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yard of PaceThe first line of that report should be printed out, duplicated, and handed out to every Irish schoolboy who ever is considering offers from Liverpool, Chelsea, Man United et al.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe_denilson
If McCarthy had taken Liverpool's offer, I don't think he'd be anywhere near the Irish first XI right now. Squad maybe, but not a starter, as he is now.
Fake, apparently: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/medi...ing?CMP=twt_fdQuote:
Originally Posted by joe_denilson
He had a cracking shot v Everton, which lead to a corner from which they scored.
Scored another 2 in the next few minutes making it 3-0 never seen Wigan play so well.
Cracking game.
Gibson on for Fellani to give a boost to the midfield. :O|
Anyone who thinks fellani is the key for everton and not gibson got their answer clearly today. Fellani is a show pony who wouldnt control lassie not to mind a topclass midfieldQuote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
Is it not possible to have two key players? Not that I rate Gibbo as key but some do.
James: I want to stay in the starting team
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...-0-Sweden.html