Derry could just sell that stupidly nonsensical tv screen they spent ridiculous money and put that towards some sort of ground improvements.
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Derry could just sell that stupidly nonsensical tv screen they spent ridiculous money and put that towards some sort of ground improvements.
Good idea! Had better get in quick before London funding for NI drys up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Parker
Which to be fair is what I thought was finding potential brandy well work ?
Artist impression of the markets field here.....https://www.facebook.com/Marketsfiel...377093356053:0
Big massive poles must be a disappointment
Have to say, that looks fantastic. The pictures are a bit small, so detail isn't easy to spot, but it looks really good and would turn out a great LOI ground if it ended up like that. Plenty of room for expansion too. The fact they're calling it 'current phase' as opposed to 'when finished' is also encouraging.
Must say the artist impression looks good and gives a much better idea what we are looking at.
The expected weather could cause serious problems though. I wouldn't be surprised if the first few games only one or two sides are open with capacity limited. It was done in Thomond Park at the time of redevelopment there.
Mentioned earlier, stadium developments in Derry. Not at the Brandywell though.
Stute struggle to get over 200 at a match, but they're managing to create a great wee ground.
I was at their ground for a Setanta game a couple of seasons back and was well impressed with the setup they already have.. very tidy ground with a decent club bar to boot.Quote:
Originally Posted by brendy_éire
See, you can't let them Cork fans in anywhere. They'll always wreck the joint.Quote:
Originally Posted by adamd164
You must have been lost. They don't have a bar!Quote:
Originally Posted by adamd164
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Originally Posted by Mr_Parker
Yes they do.
Cliftonville-Crusaders relations hit an all-time low as the Reds discover Crues have been concealing an entire bar from them.
Cheap pints and a photo of the queen of England on the wall. What more could you want?Quote:
Originally Posted by Finlay Harp
... the marching band music was the highlight.Quote:
Originally Posted by brendy_éire
Decent ground is Seaview. Is there a need for a new stand??
How much did we spend on it?Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Don't worry I'll tell you - nothing. It was already owned by our chairman and his business. Swing and a miss. Try another baseless wind-up.
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Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeooooooooooooooooooow!
Story in the Sindo about Dalymount and Tolka, seems that a ground share is possibly on the way for Bohs and Shels with Dublin City Council providing the money and project management if report accurate. Tolka would disappear and Dalymount would be saved as a soccer venue, which I suppose is a reasonable outcome after the awful mess that the two clubs have made of their affairs. Still sad that another LoI ground may go. Hope we get to a situation soon where all LoI grounds are in public ownership and that it will not be possible to take out loans secured on them. Also it would be logical to have Pats share with Shamrock R, whenever the loan on Richmond Park is resolved/paid back?
Why would Pats want to share with Rovers ?Quote:
Originally Posted by wonder88
Any link to the article in question ?
https://twitter.com/chippie1974/stat...580289/photo/1
Looks like whoever is owed €7m by Shels will be out of luck if this goes ahead. Accolade Ltd has the lease on Tolka, that was the old company that ran Shels in Ollie's time if I remember rightly. Wonder who the current directors are? What security do the people, Ossie Kilkenny and others apparently, who advanced money to Ollie on the strength of a ground sale have?
Bohs will be relatively ok if they can get the various institutions to accept the deal though it's hardly in their best interests to do so with the Dublin property market picking up again.
According to this site - http://www.businessbarometer.ie/Risk...Limited-106863 - Eamonn White, Richard Campbell, Brian Nathan, Andrew Byrne and Oliver Byrne are listed as Shels directors.
A rebuilt Dalymount would be fantastic, though it would be a shame to see Tolka Park go. But it would have to be a proper rebuild. A bit of a stand here and a bit of a stand there and sure we might have a few bob to put in a bit of roof someday would be unacceptable. It's such a heavily residential area I'd fear any plans would be watered down by objections and a pishy 5-6k ground might be the outcome. Cue the 'sure they'll never fill that anyway' argument. I think a 10-12k seats would fit on the site and could be a flagship ground for the league.
http://www.independent.ie/business/f...-30880047.html
Article in question apparently Joe is denying the contents of it I heard
Looks like a home run to me!Quote:
Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton
Not at the ground they don't??Quote:
Originally Posted by Finlay Harp
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Originally Posted by Eminence Grise
Would love to see Dalymount return to it's former glory. Fix up the existing stands, re-open the railway end, and fill in the horrible big gap left by demolishing half a stand and have a proper 15,000 all-seater that could be a secondary international ground as well as the flagship LOI ground. It's nothing less than a ground like Dalymount deserves.
No!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by wonder88
Yes they do...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Parker
Is there enough access in place to allow for 15k stadium within modern regulations? The exit gates at the back on the away stand and in the corner onto Connaught Street would suit but I'd imagine H/S would be all over the narrow alleys behind the Jody.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
......strange, as the only part currently in use is the 'narrow alleys behind the Jodi'Quote:
Originally Posted by toffeejay
Agree, access would not be a major problem for 10-15k crowds as pointed out by marinobohs. I would say a lot still has to be worked out before any deal is made. Dublin property prices may not go much higher than at present, so there is a gamble involved for Zurich Bank, Bohs members, etc on the bargain they are likely to strike.
In fairness we did have to leave the ground at half time to get a pint in the bar. But the bar backs onto the ground and the entrance to the pub is spitting distance from the turnstile.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Parker
There's a door into the bar from the ground too.Quote:
Originally Posted by redobit
Cliftonville fans not having the chance to verify the existance of a bar at Seaview not too surprising. They certainly are in no doubts of the whereabouts of the bars in Oriel and looked right at home when in town! Shamrock Rovers fans could probably question the existance of the Lilywhite Lounge having not been let within an ass's roar of the place but also looking right at home in their chosen place of libation when in town!
Don't lump Cliftonville in with a horrible bunch of *******s like us.
Lol! No chance, Rovers fans are ... unique in their own special ways!
15000 is not going to happen, access routes, inadequate public transport, residents concerns, existing crowd averages and safety concerns etc. will put a stop to a 15000 seater, if you think about it you'd have Shels with a crowd of 950 and Bohs with 2500 playing in a 15000 seater, you could put the entire attendance in just one end and still not fill the end!Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Best chance to get it done is to build a small tidy modern ground that will IMPROVE the lot of the residents living around the ground, no way will they accept a 15000 seater at their back door and the potential for big crowds.
If you offer to replace Dalymount with a small modern ground that is on a smaller footprint than the existing Dalymount and isn't a crumbling, death trap, eyesore then the residents will back the idea. Getting planning for a 5000 seater in such an enclosed site would probably be impossible if you weren't trying to get rid of the existing ground....
There is no way it will ever serve as a second international ground or a venue for a cup final at 15000 it would be too small for the national team and too big for Clubs...
Jesus...you're so negative..
You are very definite in what is essentially just your own personal conjecture sanchez. Residents in Phibsborough might be ok with a mere 15000 stadium compared to the historical capacity of the old place. The ground could also be designed to have sections closed unless needed as is currently the case at Dalymount anyway.
Thus my point being that there is a big differnce between 1,500 using it and 15,000.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinobohs
Ignoring the woeful NI vs Wales match infront of 529. The lowest Ireland figure at the Aviva I know of is 14k. With the top tear closed off it's what, 22-23k capacity? Is an alternative really needed? If a fairer price structure was in place or tickets given out to schools etc you could get 20k for even meaningless fixtures.
Hell 35,000 attended vs Gibralta, I just don't why spend more massive amounts of money on a 15,000 staduim for maybe one or two friendlies a year - if you are worried about the crowd maybe you shouldn't be arranging the fixture at home against such a small country like Oman.
6-7,000 would be more than adequete for Bohs vs Rovers and Ireland U21 games. It could also work alongside Tallaght as the neutral venue for League Cup and Setanta Finals, being switched depending on if Bohs/Rovers are playing in it.
Wondering what Shels fans think of this potential move? It needs to happen for them to survive financially but is another move and one to Bohs territory going to damage their already maligned support?