it may of been bull****, might be true, who knows.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scooby Doo
if he doesnt want to play fair enough, someone who wants to will
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it may of been bull****, might be true, who knows.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scooby Doo
if he doesnt want to play fair enough, someone who wants to will
You see, the beauty of international football is that for many players, representing your country and people still retains a sense of honour and pride. For supporters, it is a mode of national expression. These are values and sentiments that, in most cases, set international football aside from club football.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapAPony
Of course players should be picked on form, but this should not be the only criteria. Players that dishonour the shirt and team that so many have sweated blood for and that supporters invest so much emotion (and money!) in should not be 'welcomed back any day'.
I dread the day that you become Ireland manager, Trapapony.
You'd probably make a good scout though, in fairness.
IMO, it's utterly stupid and pointless holding a grudge forever. If he comes out and makes an apology that's enough for me.
Thanks Scooby. That's all I'd be interested in.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Scooby Doo
IF being the operative conditional.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapAPony
Up to now, anytime he has spoken, this sentiment has been completely absent and no sign of any change to his narcissism.
And have another Cyprus disaster... I'll take Andrews anyday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
I can recall a game he played in a 2 man CM for Villa last season against Newcastle (Think it might have been his debut) they conceded 6 goals.
I know we can't blame it all on poor Stephen but we can try!!
You hold grudges to remind them what they've done. We needed him 4 years ago, he walked out and lied about it. He let every single person in the country down and gloated over it. And apparantly, it's up to Trap to call him, not the other way around. :confused: No way do I ever want to see him in an Ireland squad, let alone shirt again.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapAPony
Fortunately, Trap won't entertain him. If there's no place for Andy Reid in this team, there's certainly no place for that traitor remotely near the team.
Would Trap play him though? Disregarding the man for a second, the player doesn't strike as the type to get bumped to the top of the queue of Irish midfielders.
I see Stephen Ireland is back in the fold again. It only took for him to have 2 good games and you have the usual suspects popping up suggesting he should be welcomed back into the team whilst seemingly oblivious to the fact that he's been absolute gash for almost 3 years now and is a complete tw*t to boot. But let's forget all that because he looked good in ten minutes of highlights on Match of the Day last week and Alan Hansen highlighted his play with a big circle after the game.
You couldn't make this stuff up. I'd be more open to welcoming Paul Butler back.
i vote this thread should be locked until sperm head publicly states that he wants to play again
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Here is a list of ways to identify a sociopath. This list is from "Profile of a Sociopath." Is is a pretty good list of sociopathic indicators.
- Glibness/superficial charm
- Manipulative and conning
- Grandiose sense of self
- Pathological lying
- Lack of remorse, shame or guilt
- Shallow emotions
- Incapacity for love
- Need for stimulation
- Callousness/lack of empathy
- Poor behavioral controls/impulsive nature
- Early behavior problems/juvenile delinquency
- Irresponsibility/unreliability
- Promiscuous sexual behavior/infidelity
- Lack of realistic life plan/parasitic lifestyle
- Criminal or entrepreneurial versatility
- Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them
- Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them
- Authoritarian
- Secretive
- Paranoid
- Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
- Conventional appearance
- Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)
- Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim's life
- Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim's affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)
- Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim
- Incapable of real human attachment to another
- Unable to feel remorse or guilt
- Narcissism, grandiosity (self-importance not based on achievements)
- May state readily that their goal is to rule the world
(Obviously, in order to be a sociopath a person doesn't have to exhibit anything like all the above. Usually, the lack of a conscience, the manipulation of others, dishonesty and the inability to love and/or have lasting and profound personal relations and cruelty are key symptoms and often much more revealing than having been in trouble with the courts.)
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_do_you...is_a_sociopath
*gulp*
I don't see "plays equally well on the wing or in a withdrawn role behind the striker" on there.
It's not, but as someone who has had the unfortunate pleasure of having worked for a boss who had the above attributes, Ireland's ability to cause chaos in the squad and decimate morale would mean we would be left with a shell of a team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
You certainly have a way with melodrama "let every single person in the country down" Come on!Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
As has been said I'd have no problem with him coming back if he apologied ( After the Euros of course )
No thanks and certainly not for the euros. Maybe after but not sure he would be worth the hassle. Plus hes not the type of player that we are missing or that Trap is keen on in his team either for that matter (e.g. Wes H).
http://blamenews.info/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/9.jpgQuote:
Here is a list of ways to identify a sociopath. This list is from "Profile of a Sociopath." Is is a pretty good list of sociopathic indicators.
- Conventional appearance
OK Stephen, you're cleared. Please send Mr. Panzram in on your way out. Thank you.
according to my ex I'm several sociopaths thenQuote:
Originally Posted by theworm2345
He's not going to apologise, has no intention of doing so, and that wouldn't suffice either. You can't just airbrush the past 4 years out of history.Quote:
Originally Posted by gustavo
He wants Trappattoni to approach him, well I'm afraid that's not how it works or should work. We got this far without him, and we will do just fine without him.
What's that?Quote:
Originally Posted by theworm2345
The selection criteria when they appointed Trappatoni?
Could be, but Balotelli another Italian meets all the criteria!Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
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Originally Posted by theworm2345
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...iClZuaVl_7RO32
From NY Times blog:
http://goal.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/0...d-more/?src=tpQuote:
The Red Bulls, however, remain a bit thin in the midfield. Though Rafael Marquez will play a defensive and distribution role in front of the back line, Soler and Hans Backe continue to talk about a possible acquisition (perhaps the club’s third designated player) during the summer transfer period. The veteran German midfielder Michael Ballack, 35, currently at Bayer Leverkusen, is known to be interested in moving to an M.L.S. club. And although he could be headed to Montreal, according to published reports, a person with impeccable contacts in the soccer world said that Ballack wants to come to New York — and would only come to M.L.S. if he could play for the Red Bulls.
The person said, however, that the Red Bulls are not interested in Ballack and instead have set their sights on the acquisition of the controversial Irish attacking midfielder Stephen Ireland, 25, who currently plays for Aston Villa in England.
MLS clubs can't pay the transfer fees the likes of Stephen Ireland would command.
Don't know about that, the team is called the Red Bulls and, if I recall from the Gold Cup, play in Red Bull Stadium. Thus, I assume they are owned by Red Bull, who I'm sure could pay any transfer fee they wanted. The real question would be if they would meet his surely high wage demands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
Whether or not he'd be up to it, I actually wouldn't doubt it. He's never seemed the kind of guy who strives to be the best he can be and to achieve his potential, rather seeming to be content to coast by on his natural talent (which I begrudgingly must admit he has) and collect his paycheck. This, plus the fact that he doesn't have the "burden" of trying to compete for a spot on the Irish team, means the drop of quality (how much of which I am not here to debate) would be of little consequence. If he's up for the move I'd say it could well happen. Needless to say, anyone as pompous/self-important, obnoxious, and arrogant would fit in immediately in New York.
Well Red Bulls just sold a player to Bolton for 2 million pounds but I still doubt they could afford the money necessary to bring in Ireland.
But that is the very reason why he may actually go to NY ie he doesnt seem to be the lad working really hard to make it to the very top. A few years living in NY on serious wedge, he'd (and the missus) would probably love it.Quote:
Originally Posted by theworm2345
They also just built a $200million stadium with their own money. Plus they have the highest player salaries in MLS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Yeah but as far as I can tell they've never paid a transfer fee for a player. Henry and Marquez are somewhat sustainable because they were free, they're marquee names and Henry can be loaned back to England, but Ireland would command a few million pounds at least, especially as he finally seems to be hitting form for Villa.
Sounds like made up stuff to me. He'd have to be a designated player, but he's not well-known enough in the U.S. to really justify that from a marketing perspective.
There would be no issue with the Red Bulls being able to afford him if they wanted, but it just doesn't seem like a good trade off in terms of value for money.
My suspicion is that someone from the Red Bulls saw him play and recommended him without knowing his wage history (specifically at Man City), so it's possible there was an interest at some point but if it ever came to a negotiation I'd imagine it would end fairly quickly.
Really? How much did it cost Galaxy to get Beckham?Quote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
Beckham signed a pre-contract with the Galaxy while he was at Madrid, so there was no transfer fee, just his salary involved.Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
http://www.people.co.uk/sport/footba...2039-23737213/
Seems he won't be going to NY....LA Galaxy is after him now :)
From one galaxy to another. Ideal for a space cadet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nagger
From the above article: Galaxy cannot pay a fee and have their fingers crossed that Ireland could join them, possibly on loan
Sam Smyth reviewing tomorrow's papers on Tonight with Vincent Browne:
The Star has Direland's gf claiming it will only take one phone call to get him back into the team. In time for the Euros. Obviously he's standing by waiting for Trap to prostrate himself and grovel at his feet...
:note:I'm lying alone, my bald head on the phone
Thinking of Trap till it hurts.
Gio, you hurt too, but what else can we do,
Tardelli is torn apart...?
:note:
(Apologies to Air Supply)
Air Supply, the mushiest band ever.
In the squad for the Euros?
More chance of finding John Terry building houses in a South African township this summer I'd say.
If Trap sees it fit to call Ireland up to the squad, then that's good enough for me. If Trap doesn't call him up again, that's good enough for me.
Trap has got us to our first Euros in 24 years, and as far as I can see, its only his opinion that matters to me in relation to Stephen Ireland.
It's the probability of the thing I have trouble with, before even getting to the pros and cons. I have a hard time believing this guy actually wants to be involved and I'd have more doubts about whether Trap would entertain it.Quote:
Originally Posted by French Toasht
We've been here before, a few times. Invariably prior to the man himself laughing off the notion. Fair enough, his girlfriend seems to think he's all set to go but let's face it, we've all said a few ott things in the heat of a hookah session that we later took a step back from.
I generally don't give too much credence to that kind of stuff in tabloids but I can't help feeling that she actually said that and believes it too..
Sporadic form and appearances in a mid table team warrants pleas to return to do us the honour of playing on one of the biggest stages for us, whilst offering a clean slate for past indiscretions, despite not helping the team qualify in the first place..... I can actually see them thinking that. Spanners!
Wonder what Manblue thinks of it?