Played with an injury in what was a very poor performance from the whole team.
Any chance you might have something vaguely interesting to post? You seem to have singlehandedly made this forum half as good as it used to be - Quite an achievement.
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Played with an injury in what was a very poor performance from the whole team.
Any chance you might have something vaguely interesting to post? You seem to have singlehandedly made this forum half as good as it used to be - Quite an achievement.
Come on lads, not worth replying to the WUM at this stage. As mentioned before theres a ignore list for a reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Junior
Any chance of him simply staying at Celtic long term? :watermelon:Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
No. They can't afford his wagers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crosby87
Sure they can. Just move some things around. He also sells a lot of shirts. :present:Quote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
Robbie probably would pay for himself for a year or so, but Spurs would need a bigger loan fee considering his value will drop over the course of the year (unless he goes on a CL run or something, which is incredibly unlikely at this stage). I'm not sure if the club could afford it, or if they could justify not investing the same money in younger players.
Better off going back to the premiership imo, if Spurs don't want him some side like Aston Villa surely will.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
HR has already said that Keane definately won't be on loan again next season. There was some diplomacy about how he said it but it was basically a case of he's too good a player not get a decent fee for if he goes somewhere else...Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
I truly believe he should consider one of the upper tier German Clubs.
This also got me thinking, I wonder what the record is for amount of teams an Irish player has played for. Or amount of transfers/loans.
Whatever about numbers (no doubt there's an old LoI mercenary who changed clubs at least once a year), Keane's comfortably top on total transfer fees.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crosby87
I've never heard you discuss Paul Doolin in such polite terms before.Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
Today's News of the World (so it must be true) says Robbie Keane, Kevin Doyle, Aiden McGeady and Stephen Ireland are all targets of Martin O'Neill at Villa.
5 Irish (assuming Ireland counts) in one team, and a good one at that, would be pretty good.
There are reports that Ashley Young is a £25 million target for Barcelona, so that'd give Villa money to spend. Milner may be on his way too. I saw Young live at the FA Cup semi-final a couple of weeks ago and wasn't impressed, though in fairnmess, the pitch was so heavy he couldn't use his pace at all. Still, his final ball was very poor. Milner was superb by the way.
I wouldnt be surprised to see Man Utd make a bid for Milner. Really think Villa need some more options up front, they are lacking a bit of cuteness at times that Keane could give them. At the moment all they have is speed or brute strenght
Milner is almost single handedly dragging that team to get results in recent weeks. Def will be a target of the top clubs, Villa should try and keep him though if they have any ambitions of their own. Villa would be a great move for Keane, Doyle and McG. Couldnt care less about the other individual linked with the club.
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Originally Posted by Razors left peg
I don't know about the cuteness factor with Keane...
I would suggest that there is alot you dont know
Out of interest, what do you actually think Keane's positive attributes are?Quote:
Originally Posted by yapster
Just going to investigate a few of the repeated claims I often see on here, regarding Robbie Keane...
Claim: Robbie Keane is a big-game bottler.
Nonsense. In Keane's international career, he's scored against Holland, Germany, Spain, Italy and France in competitive games, along with Turkey and Iran in playoffs. Of course, many of his 41 goals for Ireland have come in friendlies, and competitive games against lesser nations; but given the infrequency of genuine top-level games that are played in international football - particularly outside of tournaments - Keane's record is excellent. He has scored against every 'Big 4' club for Spurs, and during his spell at Liverpool, scored against Arsenal and Atletico Madrid.
Claim; Robbie Keane misses too many chances.
Unfortunately, there aren't too many readily available chances/goals ratios online; but one from a few seasons back compared Keane's ratio to that of Berbatov, Bent and Defoe - Keane's was at 29%, Bent 10%, Berbatov 15% and Defoe 14%. Opta stats compiled in December of last year showed that Keane had the third highest goal/chance conversion rate, just behind Bellamy and Kenwyne Jones - ahead of Torres, Drogba, RVP, etc. This coming in a supposedly poor season. If Keane lacks any of the qualities needed to be a 'top' striker, his finishing ability is not one of them.
The chance he missed against France was agonising, but the goal he scored (yapster conveniently forgets about this one) was a perfect first-time finish. Let's not forget, France's lauded strikers missd their fair share during both games, Govou in particular spooning over from six yards in extra time.
Claim - Keane has underachieved at top clubs.
Harder one to argue. His moves to Inter and Liverpool did not work out, but both moves fell victim to managerial politics. Lippi was shown the exit only weeks after signing Keane, and his replacement didn't fancy him. Benitez never wanted Keane in the first place, and repeatedly dropped him even after scoring crucial goals. Keane was slightly unlucky with the moves. He was also unlucky that Leeds didn't make him available after the 2002 WC, when many clubs would have snapped him up eagerly. Instead, they waited until the autumn to sell - a point when the big clubs had already spent their money. Spurs was the best option at the time, and he repaid them by becoming the 9th highest goalscorer in their history. In Keane's time at Spurs, the 'Big 4' wasted millions on players like Diouf, Cisse, Morientes, Crespo, Kezman, Shevchenko, Mutu, Forlan, Smith, and Reyes. Fair? No, not really. Keane's goalscoring record at Liverpool actually wasn't bad in comparison to the above - one less than Benitez's fellow Spaniard Morientes, who was given repeated chances over a season and a half to score his eight goals.
Keane's qualities aren't blindingly obvious; he doesn't have the pace or power of a Drogba or Torres, nor the quick feet of a Ronaldo. But he scores goals, goals of every type - and has done consistently for almost thirteen years, at every club he's been. We know all the stats; 11th highest EPL goalscorer since its inception, 9th on Spurs' all-time list, first on Ireland's by quite a distance. When he retires, he'll be rightly lauded as one of our all-time greats, with an above-average record in a league that many world-renowned strikers have found impossible to crack (Kluivert, Shevchenko, Crespo, Morientes). The only regrettable thing about his career thus far is the way he was messed around by Liverpool - and given their fortunes this season with David Ngog (and before him, Voronin) toiling ineptly in front of goal, it's just desserts for Benitez. Keane will be playing and scoring in the EPL for a few years to come, maybe even for Spurs in the CL next season; which would be sweet irony at a fitting stage for such a player.
Keane failed at Inter,Leeds and Liverpool and now Spurs are doing better than ever without him.
Keanes enthusium and committment to Ireland is highly commendable.
Yes of course the first goal in Paris he took superbly but his miss was deplorable..
His flopping and diving and his moaning at referee's for no reason is a disgrace to the Irish shirt...
Liverpool's form has nosedived since he left. Are we to conclude that his presence in the Liverpool team was just as pivotal as his absence from Spurs has been?
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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Liverpools form has nothing to do with Keane...
But Spurs' does?
His missus...:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
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Originally Posted by strangeirish
10 a penny those women are
As for Keane, lets be honest he is not a Man U/ Chelsea kind of player (ie top drawer stuff) - Spurs or Liverpool were/are about his level which is fine
I just saw a Bayern centre forward miss an absolute sitter. No way would Robbie have missed it. I'd say that makes Robbie CL semi-finalist (or finalist if Bayern stay ahead) standard myself.
Not being good enough for Chelsea or Man U is hardly a damning indictment. That said, I'm not convinced Kalou is top drawer. Maybe I haven't watched him enough.
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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
All I'm saying is they don't need him do they? He was dropped for most of the time he was with Spurs this season.
I wasn't convinced about Kalou either, until I saw his magnificent performance on Sunday against Stoke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
If my aunty had...................
Still a hat trick isnt to bad, is it!!!!:D Now in the finals of the CL while Robbie on the other hand has the mighty Motherwell to deal with next - thats the reality of it
It wasn't Olic who missed the sitter (or was it? I had the sound turned down as I was on the phone). First minute, open goal, missed target....
Thomas MüllerQuote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
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Originally Posted by strangeirish
lol lol
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Originally Posted by bennocelt
spot on
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Originally Posted by joe_denilson
Been done already son...
Been looking for stats on penalties robbie has taken, how many scored/missed. Anyone have an idea?
You think as a Spurs fan id love Keane but no I hate him he thinks he owns the club and can do what he likes but that wont happen with Harry in charge. I had no prob. with him going to Liverpool it was his so called boy hood club after all and he had been a great servant 2 our club but when it didnt work out we brought him home but then his so called other boy hood club came calling and off to Celtic he went. Everyones saying how well he did over there but the truth is I could do what he did in Scotland their league is crap. And he got player of the year for celtic what a suprise Keano says jump Celtic fans say how high. And when Neil Lennon said there was going to b a clear out Keano backed it who said u wrnt been cleaned out to Keano. And of course as expected he was gifted the captaincy. And all the teams he scored against were useless he never scored in the Old Firm games did he....... And now ive just red that his 1st club Wolves are coming in for him i suppose he loves them as well does he well if it dsnt work out and we take him back again (which we wont) then i supose he will want another shot at Italian football and move over there ... Keano your a discrase and your not needed anymore so go and dictate some other club
Kids! don't you just love them.
Schools closed today?
just when I thought there might be a bit of peace around here with Yapster suspended
Welcome to the forum Kieran. Another Robbie Keane post that ignores any argument based on facts or reality.
His move to Liverpool: Yeah, he supported Liverpool as a kid, but they were also a top four club playing Champions League football at the time and Spurs weren't (how the tables have turned now) so it was a good footballing move. Spurs were happy to take the cash and Benitez never really wanted him. He was dropped straight after excellent performances for Liverpool and was inevitably subbed on the 60 minute mark when he started games, no matter how well he was playing. It has been highlighted before, but he has a better record for Liverpool than some of the other 'top class' strikers that Liverpool persisted with (Morientes was one).
His move to Celtic: He was out of the Spurs team and was given the chance to play first team football in a league where he was likely to score a lot of goals. I don't think he really wanted to go, but wasn't assured of a place in the Spurs team so left, to, y'know, play some football. If he really "dictates to the club", surely he would have dictated to Spurs that he needed to be picked for every game? And so what if they game him the captaincy? Celtic are a team that have been lacking leaders all season. Darren O'Dea has captained the side on a number of occasions and he's not even guaranteed a place in the first team. Finally, maybe he's getting Celtic's player of the year award having become their top scorer for the entire season having only been involved 14 games?
It does look like he'll be moved on in the future. Wherever he goes, he'll continue to score goals like he has been doing consistently since 1997. As for your final comment that he's a "discrase", care to qualify that with any kind of sensible argument whatsoever?
here now thats totally over the top, if you had the chance to better yourself by playing in the champions league would you not take it? so it doesn't work out because the manager is a bit of an idiot when it comes to managing forward players you go back to a club you consider home, whats wrong with that? then he looses his place in the team, mainly because of his team mates very good form, so you go on loan for half a season to a club you support (yes i know it's because of the idiotic i'm Irish i support Celtic mentality) to get your confidence back. theres nothing wrong with any of that, and yes Celtics squad is in need of a massive overhaul. And Celtic sold their captain in January did they not? so it's not just like he walked in there and demanded the Captaincy, the team had no leadersQuote:
Originally Posted by Kieran Burke
Look I find robbie annoying as hell sometimes to watch but he is still the best forward we have and probably will ever have and he deserves a lot of respect for that fact alone and where w=ever he ends up you know he will get 20 plus goals again next season.
Irrational character assignations of players with little or no basis is only asking for a ban not to mention a lot of angry reply's