Caoimhín Kelleher GK Brentford b.1998

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30/05/2024, 11:14 PM
EalingGreen

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Originally Posted by Jolly Red Giant

If it is the PL you have to look at where Kelleher would be considered an upgrade - and I am just throwing these out there -
Arsenal

Arsenal? No harm to CK, but there's zero chance he'll go there. Last summer they took David Raya (28) from Brentford for a �3m loan fee, with an obligation to add �27m this summer to make it permanent. He soon displaced the incumbent, England cap Aaron Ramsdale, also earning full Spanish recognition himself. Having been recommended to them by their gk coach, who had previously coached him at Brentford, he is nailed-on to be first choice keeper at Arsenal for the foreseeable future. And even if Ramsdale leaves, why would CK move from being second choice at Liverpool to being second choice at Arsenal?

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Originally Posted by Jolly Red Giant

Brentford

In order to replace Raya, BFC paid �11m to Freiburg for 29 y.o. Mark Flekken, a Dutch international with 7 caps who's just been called into their Euro's squad. Knowing that Raya was going for some time, BFC will have been scouting for a gk for at least 12 months prior. And after a shaky start, Flekken pulled things round after Xmas and ended the season in fine form. Meanwhile, they already have 4 other gk's on the books, admittedly 3 of them still young.

Meaning that even if CK wanted to go there (he won't), there is NO WAY Brentford would pay �20m-odd to have him (at best) competing with Flekken for the No.1 spot.

(Don't pretend to know enough about the rest of your nominations to comment either way, other than that Forest will have to sell a LOT of players before they can even think of buying anyone; while Chelsea may be facing an imminent transfer signing ban, at least until they have brought in some more money from sales.)
30/05/2024, 11:25 PM
Razors left peg

If he's going to be sent on loan instead of sold I'd put money on him going to Celtic.
30/05/2024, 11:42 PM
EalingGreen

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Originally Posted by Razors left peg

If he's going to be sent on loan instead of sold I'd put money on him going to Celtic.

Good choice (both parties), but could they afford his wages?

Don't know what he's on at Anfield, but it will be a decent amount and LFC won't want/need to subsidise any loan.
31/05/2024, 12:01 AM
Razors left peg

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Originally Posted by EalingGreen

Good choice (both parties), but could they afford his wages?

Don't know what he's on at Anfield, but it will be a decent amount and LFC won't want/need to subsidise any loan.

I'm sure they could, Joe Hart wouldn't have been on a pittance
31/05/2024, 1:12 AM
elatedscum

My guess is he's on a minimum of �35k p/w + a significant appearance fee (maybe 10k) + clean sheet fee. could be more but that'd be my low guess. either way, no one beyond him, his agent and the club know. there's loads of social media posts saying he's on 5/10/15k and Adrian is on 80k, which is obviously not true
31/05/2024, 7:46 AM
Jolly Red Giant

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Originally Posted by elatedscum

My guess is he's on a minimum of �35k p/w + a significant appearance fee (maybe 10k) + clean sheet fee. could be more but that'd be my low guess. either way, no one beyond him, his agent and the club know. there's loads of social media posts saying he's on 5/10/15k and Adrian is on 80k, which is obviously not true

When he signed the new contract I read somewhere that he was on �25K a week - which is good money for a back-up goalie. If it is accurate I would see the expectation that his wage would go to �35K/40K a week - which is well up there in terms of PL wages.
31/05/2024, 9:14 AM
OwlsFan

Apparently he's on �32k a week https://salarysport.com/football/pla...2030%2C%202025.

Joe Harte is on �15k a week.
31/05/2024, 9:16 AM
seanfhear

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Originally Posted by OwlsFan

Apparently he's on �32k a week https://salarysport.com/football/pla...2030%2C%202025.

Joe Harte is on �15k a week.

Joe is on ~ The Dole now ~ ~ Newly redundant !
31/05/2024, 12:05 PM
JR89

If Kelleher actually was to end up at Celtic would be a very underwhelming move.
31/05/2024, 12:29 PM
Eirambler

There's only a finite number of clubs that could afford him. Basically Premier League clubs, bigger spending clubs across the other four major European leagues, maybe a very small number of clubs in smaller leagues like Scotland, Netherlands and Portugal, and probably quite a few Saudi clubs. Out of those maybe only 10-15% will actually be shopping for a first choice keeper this summer. The main thing is that he gets a move somewhere to be first choice, it probably won't be Celtic, but at least if it was we'd know he'd be playing every week. He's not going to lose his place to Scott Bain.
31/05/2024, 2:15 PM
SkStu

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Originally Posted by JR89

If Kelleher actually was to end up at Celtic would be a very underwhelming move.

I agree but it wouldnt be so bad if it were a loan. As ER points out, he is a specialist player in a market that is quite small for a player of his (not yet fully proven) ability. Actually, I think any move he makes is - loan or permanent - is likely to be and feel like a step down.
31/05/2024, 2:16 PM
seanfhear

Could Man Utd do with a goal-keeper ? !
31/05/2024, 2:30 PM
SkStu

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Originally Posted by seanfhear

Could Man Utd do with a goal-keeper ? !

as I said, a step down... but no - Onana is generally underrated and going nowhere.
31/05/2024, 2:44 PM
elatedscum

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Originally Posted by SkStu

as I said, a step down... but no - Onana is generally underrated and going nowhere.

Another absolute clanger in the cup final. If I was United, I'd be moving on from him...
31/05/2024, 3:11 PM
Predator

I would rather Kelleher didn't go to Celtic. One or two bad performances up there and they'll be on his back, talking trash about how he could do it in the PL but not Scotland.
31/05/2024, 4:32 PM
SkStu

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Originally Posted by elatedscum

Another absolute clanger in the cup final. If I was United, I'd be moving on from him...

But why? Because of one clanger in a cup final they won? Look, I know he has made some noticeable errors (all keepers have) but his stats are actually exceptional. Going on FBREF, he has a higher save percentage than Allison, Ederson, Raya, Pickford, Vicario (i ws limited in the comparisons i could make) and the second highest PSxG of that same group (after Pickford). The list isn't exhaustive (I picked the ones that first came to mind) but when Becker and Ederson are usually identified as elite level goalkeepers, then you cant really argue against him not being in/around that grouping. The defence in front of him was decimated for a while too, consisting too frequently of Jonny Evans! :D
01/06/2024, 2:58 PM
zero

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Originally Posted by SkStu

But why? Because of one clanger in a cup final they won? Look, I know he has made some noticeable errors (all keepers have) but his stats are actually exceptional. Going on FBREF, he has a higher save percentage than Allison, Ederson, Raya, Pickford, Vicario (i ws limited in the comparisons i could make) and the second highest PSxG of that same group (after Pickford). The list isn't exhaustive (I picked the ones that first came to mind) but when Becker and Ederson are usually identified as elite level goalkeepers, then you cant really argue against him not being in/around that grouping. The defence in front of him was decimated for a while too, consisting too frequently of Jonny Evans! :D

I thought you were talking about Kells there and got a bit excited! (then realised it was Onana).
27/07/2024, 3:36 AM
elatedscum

Back from injury to start against Betis in pre-season, played the first half, as Liverpool kept a clean sheet. Didn�t have a lot to do, was excellent with his feet.

Jaros came on for him at half time. I think it�s possible that Kelleher moving depends largely on how good Jaros looks and whether Liverpool think he�s ready to be No.2.

Got off to a very shaky start. Hesitated slightly when given a hospital back pass and it almost cost him, made a last ditch tackle on the striker who had beaten him to the ball (due to the hesitation), injuring the striker in the process. Won the ball well but it was inches away from being a free kick and a straight red for denying a goal scoring opportunity. Was literally 2 mins after he came on, so was his first touch. Had another moment a few mins later where his feet got him into trouble, passing straight to a Betis attacker who was wasteful with a pass and let Liverpool away with it.

He did make a very good save late on in a 1v1 to ensure the win. Overall a passing grade. He�s definitely a significant step down from where Kelleher is now, particularly with his feet but he�s also probably as good as the average Premier League backup keeper.

If Alisson was injured for 30 games like last year, you�d be worried if you�re Liverpool but if it�s just your typical season where a second keeper plays in the League Cup and FA Cup, then he�s plenty good for that�
04/08/2024, 1:19 AM
elatedscum

Kept a clean sheet in the first half against United in preseason. Made probably 6 or 7 good saves - 2 or 3 of which were great. Hes a really good goalkeeper

His understudy Jaros has also done well so far (75 mins in)
12/08/2024, 5:42 PM
pineapple stu

Linked with a �30m move to Juve in a couple of the tabloids over the weekend. Szczesny is moving on and they've brought in di Gregorio from Monza.

Probably tabloid talk - club needing a keeper linked with a keeper needing a move - but it'd be a fantastic move if it came off

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