Forgot it about Roberto Carlos too - legs like tree trunks
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3ECoR__tJNQ&feature=kp
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Forgot it about Roberto Carlos too - legs like tree trunks
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3ECoR__tJNQ&feature=kp
Did he score a free kick other than that?
I remember him being generally awful from frees. (Actually, I seem to remember one against China in 2002 being the second free he scored for Brazil)
Bit like the national team really - hyped up on a meagre handful of excellence.
If Brazil do make it to the final and end up playing Argentina (not that I'm sure either will make it) it will be interesting to see what the ref does if they kick lumps out of messi like they did with James Rodriguez tonight.
Only saw the second half, so maybe I missed some of the refereeing decisions people are complaining about - I didn't think he was that bad.
Colombia never seemed to have the fluidity of the previous games. They lost the ball much too easily in the final third.
Brazil are just not what we imagine Brazil to be. A scrappy team that has little attacking flair or even attitute. I hope they don't win it.
Ye, fair comments. I still live in hope Brazil will play with the flair and skill they are capable of, but every time I watch them I am left disappointed.
When was the last time Brazil made any of us go "WOW"?Quote:
Originally Posted by gastric
Tonight, when at 69 minutes George Hamilton declared there had been a free on average every 90 seconds in the game to that point.
Last time I saw a team in yellow kick so much crap out of the opposition was Roscommon v Kerry in the 1980 All-Ireland. And Neymar is no Dermot Earley, lemme tell ya!!
Probably when that flyover collapsed or when they spent €300m on a stadium that is to be used only during this tournament and probably never again.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
How do you define 'wow'? I loved Luiz's goal, it was one of the better goals of the tournament. Brazil's physicality and attacking prowess was apparent early in this game, but they now have an England mindset, don't lose at any cost and that affects their general performance.
Ah now lad. You know what I mean by wow.
Brazil's cynicism could have been stamped out very early by a real referee. And we would not be talking about them.
As I said, 'wow' for me was Luiz's goal and who are you referring to in the last sentence of your post?Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
With Thiago out of the semi final and Neymar hospitalised, Germany must feel confident.
Neymar out for the tournament with a fractured vertebrae.
For once a player stretchered off was really hurt.
The ref, cards aside, got just about every decision correct. There seems to be the misapprehension that if he gave cards early that would have been the end of it. Tell that to the Spanish in the last WC Final when the Dutch kicked lumps out of them for the whole game and there were 9 cards I think. Throughout the tournament there has been an obvious policy of avoid cards. Tell that to the RTE Panel please.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
Im not so sure though. In the final Webb booked the players fairly regularly from the start (15, 22, 28, 54, 57, 84, 109*, 111, 117) the Dutch's tactics meant they were always at a risk of getting a player sent off (*happened with the 2nd yellow for Heitinga) and it probably had an impact on Van Marwijk's subs (he took of Van Bronkhorst and De Jong both of whom were booked). In the end the Dutch knew they were walking a tightrope and in the end they went down to 10 men and ended up conceeding after that. Brazil had a carte blanche tonight with none of their players being booked for persistent fouling, only Thiago Silva got a yellow for blocking the keeper and then Julio Cesar for a cast iron yellow (possibly a red) on the penalty.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
Thiago Silva's yellow is one of the stupidest thing I have ever seen a player get a card for. Absolutely bonkers. I'd have stripped him of the captaincy in the dressing room after.
Officials were very poor, there was an offside call after the second goal where Columbia were in a very promising position going down the left that was a massive error IMO, never mind the lack of cards for some of Brazil's cynically disruptive "tactics". But, all that being said, I was very underwhelmed by Columbia, especially between Cuadrado's shot just after the first goal and the second. They just couldn't get into the game at all.
With Silva and Neymar (broken vertebrae says numerous news sources) out for Germany game (and beyond) I think Brazil's chances are looking very shaky.
As Tim Vickery, or similar said, they 'got stage fright' and were overawed by Brazil. One of their players, portentously perhaps, wanted to exchange shirts with Neyamr at half-time FFS...
The referee, aside from all the stuff he did wrong got everything right...Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
Ah... Come off it.
Also setting up the 2010 clusterfupp as justification is unbelievable. Spain won that WC. The seeming injustices on the pitch were overruled by the result on the pitch.
How about you tell that to the Colombians who were clearly put off whatever rhythm was possible by absolute scandalous refereeing.
I seen it at half time mentioned on twitter, with a photo, that a few of the Colombian team exchanged shirts at half time!!! FFSQuote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
I always hated Brazil, but this is the first tournament I actually like them. They have a rubbish team but with sheer will and determination they have got to a semi finals of a world cup. Good on them. D Luiz and Marcello epitomise their desire, bombing forward with every opportunity. Still though if a player as bad as Fred wins a world cup medal, then the last three weeks of football was a waste of time!
You're a hard man to debate things with when you get the bit between your teeth Bonnie! God bless your passion.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels