Walters has been poor so far in the first half. Looks out of his depth and will definetely be substituted. I hope Wilson or/and Whelan come on as Stoke are been outplayed by Parker and Noble in midfield.
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Walters has been poor so far in the first half. Looks out of his depth and will definetely be substituted. I hope Wilson or/and Whelan come on as Stoke are been outplayed by Parker and Noble in midfield.
Walters has just started the second half brilliantly and plays a great ball for the equaliser. Shut up Noely! Pulis has moved him out to the right wing and he looks like a different player (for a few mins). Taken off after 65 mins and not surprised. Wish he was the answer but for me Walters lacks the touch and timing of jump to step up if Doyle or Keane are injured.
Perhaps an option for us at right wing instead??Quote:
Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
I think he is better as a wide player. Better running at players and running into the flight of balls to head rather than leading the line.
I don't think his running of the channels is particularly good. He's got all of the physical attributes to be a very good striker but I don't think he has the intelligence/positioning up top.
His best performances for Ipswich were at right midfield IMO.
He has no chance of being selected on Monday. But who knows with Trap!
Anyone know if Wilson is injured or has he dropped out of contention with Stoke already - started two games ago - on the bench the weekend and dropped tonight.
He's cup-tied.
It would be good if Antony Stokes moved to Stoke.
For bad puns anyway :)
that would hurt my brain too much!Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
i'd be stoked if he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
Starts 2day against Everton. Good to see him back in the starting line up
He started against Man Utd last week too. Good to see that he has kept his place.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommy_c12000
Apologies so he did. My bad. Was on hols last wkend so missed all the foot
Wilson starts, and notably whelan is not playing again.
we really need to be looking to playing those that are starting, i mean whelan has done well for us in the past but not recently. And if his club manager who is doing well with limited resources is favouring his irish counterpart, then surely Trap has to follow suit.
Wilson was replaced by Whelan on 77 mins.
Great to see this guy getting regular starts for Stoke City. Was probably Stoke's best player yesterday. He is receiving great reviews on the fans forum:
http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/...&thread=140513
This guy has to start in our midfield against Norway. Whelan has been terrible in the last few games for Ireland and is not starting for Stoke. And Green simply isn't a footballer
Scored his first premiership goal yesterday for Stoke in the 93rd min after coming on as a late sub which is good to see, doesn't seem to be much talk about him on here he seems to be playing a midfield role now rather than his original position at the back.
Great news. I think he has stated on numerous occasions that he enjoys the midfield role more than defence and I think it shows in his performances.Quote:
Originally Posted by SolitudeRed
I'd like to see him get a chance for Ireland.Quote:
Originally Posted by SolitudeRed
On bench alongside Whelan for the umpteenth time this season V Fulham. Delap and Walters start. Good to see Duffer back in the starting line up for Fulham
He's been included in a few squads now, like Coleman, and will get a chance sooner or later. It's hard to know who Trap will pick as his four/five central midfielders in February. The default incumbents (from last year's squads) are Whelan, Andrews, Gibson, Fahey and Green. Whelan is a Trap favourite and will keep getting picked regardless of regular football, and Fahey is playing regularly, so it would be baffling to see him dropped. If Andrews plays even one game for Blackburn in the next few weeks, Trap will pick him too.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
The most vulnerable, you would think, are Gibson and Green - the former because of his lack of game time, and the latter for his incurable terribleness. For those possible two places, you have McCarthy, Meyler and Wilson competing. And I'd take the first two, as they have really strong attributes - McCarthy's passing, technique and footballing brain, and Meyler's energy and abrasiveness. Wilson, I think, falls somewhere in the middle. He's tidy and defensively sound, but not, in my opinion, a huge improvement on Whelan/Andrews in terms of our ability to win/keep possession in midfield. However, given the choice, I think Trap would choose Wilson for his versatility - which leaves McCarthy or Meyler in the cold.
Stoke playing Man Utd tonight. Wilson starting with Whelan on the bench. With Wilson, McCarthy, Meyler, Gibson etc. coming through there really should be no reason why the likes of Green should get picked again.
The reason Trap would give if a match was played today is that Green is the only one out of those mentioned who has been playing regular first team football regularly.
McCarthy has been injured, Wilson and Gibson are in and out of their teams, and Meyler is just back from injury.
Not a big Green fan and want one of the young bucks to stake a claim, but they'll need to lock down a place and stay healthy to usurp the man in possession.
thought wilson played well tonight is well suited to defensive midfield role.I think he has far more about him than Whelan except the occasional long range goal.I think he would allow gibson to play as an attacking midfielder if we ever played five in the midfield and added maybe mccarthy to that central area.Gibson did good job as part of a two in the middle for utd today.Some nice passing and good tackling.He does look like he needs to lose a few pounds and work on his mobility though which a run of games away from united would hopefully give him.I think its fair to say on the evidence tonight gibson would play every week for stoke.Although im sure someone on here wil still maintain he would be lucky to get a game in the championship
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Originally Posted by liamoo11
Ireland's central midfield partnership v Northern Ireland, Aviva Stadium, May 2011 - Wilson and Gibson. Enough to bring tears to Nigel Worthington's eyes.
Is Trap mischievous enough? He could go for the hat trick and play Shane Duffy.
If he is feeling really, really mischievous, in fact possibly malicious, he might throw in Daniel Kearns just to really p##s some people off!
http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/986/trapd.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Where is he? Is he the no show that trap was talking about?
Just thinking the same.
It's possible it might have been Wilson and not McCarthy after all considering Enda Brady reported that the FAI were contacted by Wigan on Sunday regarding McCarthy's knock and scan. Could well be another case of the media getting way ahead of themselves with McCarthy. There hasn't appeared to have been any explanation forthcoming for Wilson's absence from the match commentators unless I missed it.
Indeed nothing. I have been glued to this laptop looking for something but I cannot find it.
Has anyone checked the other dugout? Worthington hasn't got him tied up in a kit bag has he?
Nothing on OWC..........
As seen on YBIG:
he only arrived over this evening so was dropped,think it was he didnt have enough time to prepare.should start V Scots.Whelan and Walters came over aswel.
Any idea did Wilson come over with the rest of the Stoke players or did he make his own way and arrive after them, meaning he could have been the player who Trap was referring to when he said someone had been a no-show and failed to get in contact?
Lads, I've only just logged on and have dozens of posts to trawl through.
Is there a definitive story yet about Wilson's absence? Are he and the other Stoke players in Dublin yet?
Just put this in the NI match thread
Tardelli downplaying the whole thing, seems Wilson, Walters, Whelan and Fahey all didn't travel but claims Wilson and Walters are injured while Whelan and Fahey are coming over.
NI and us appear to have one thing in common - a hard core of committed players and some flakes who we could do without. Very surprised at Walters as he'd have a big role to play.
Trap and the whole set up have let it be known to anyone who will listen, that Anthony Stokes wasnt arsed playing (but i think there is a bigger reason than what Trap seems to infer for this), Wilson didnt bother to reply to his texts/calls and just didnt show, and more or less the same for Walters and McCarthy.
In fairness, Traps communicatino skills are legendary at this stage........