Unemployment

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I would guess Ryanair won't cut number son main routes but will be those out of the way places that rely on holiday traffic.

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Dunno bout that Pete, I fly to Leeds/Brad for work once a month or so and in 05 when I started with this job O Leary had four in and four flights out of there from Dublin. Today he has two a day and according to his statement this is one of the routes he is cutting back further on. Trust me West Yorks is not a holiday destination:D.
He is also looking at Manchester in terms of trimming back and the reason i mention this is becuase it is no coincidence these routes are being cut at a time when Irish expoters to the UK are suffering in trying to sell into a depressed UK market and a weak quid, these routes are obviously dependant on business trips for a fair portion of the seats.

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Ryanair announcement
http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/news....=gen-en-120209

Dublin Airport Authority reply
http://www.dublinairport.com/at-airp...209_stunt.html

Excellent reply IMO

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Yes, well said DAA!

A bit out of the loop so forgive me if im not up to speed. Tourist tax of €10? How do they charge it? How do you have to pay it?

Just another charge on the ticket, collected through the airlines. Totally bull by Ryanair anyway, given their range of charges. How much is the unavoidable credit card charge they make you pay?

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Originally Posted by Macy

Just another charge on the ticket, collected through the airlines. Totally bull by Ryanair anyway, given their range of charges. How much is the unavoidable credit card charge they make you pay?

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Its 5 euro per person per flight but is totally avoidable i use www.entropay.com when you set it up put your currency into sterling then when you use it to book your ryanair flights choose card type Visa Electron thats free. Saves a good bit if you have a few flights to book

Thats interesting Anto, can you tell us more about that. I would be interested in avoiding that charge.

He just explained it Neil, all the info you need is in that post. Sign up, using STG, and use it to book with Ryanair.

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Originally Posted by NeilMcD

Thats interesting Anto, can you tell us more about that. I would be interested in avoiding that charge.

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Stuck it in here as to not clog up this thread with off topic stuff

http://foot.ie/showthread.php?p=1106304#post1106304

Intel to seek redundancies

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Staff at Intel’s manufacturing operation in Leixlip, Co Kildare have been told that the company expects to seek two to three hundred voluntary redundancies in April.

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Very little industries unaffected by recession.

more jobs to go - this time clonmel by the looks of things - http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0219/bulmers.html - not suprised to be honest - i nearly fell off a bar stool in Dublin when the guy asked me for 6.20 not so long ago , the average you would pay for this stuff in london is £3.50/£4.00 (magners) and i have got it for as little as 2.70 in Edinburgh - does anyone know how this works - surely if it's exported it should cost more, i don't get it ? Anyone?

Huge tax on cider imposed by McCreevy a few years ago.

Much as Bulmers may try they still a hige amount of their product in the summer. Apparently sales were down a lot last year in the UK.

I heard in the UK they now serve in a glass bigger than pint so that ice goes in first followed by a pint of cider - apparently the glass is marked to show you are getting a pint or something...

http://www.rte.ie/business/2009/0225/elan.html

Elan letting go 115, about 80 in Athlone and the rest in Dublin. The Government are going to have to rethink their jobs strategy becuase high end jobs are not required when there is no consupmtion in the World Economy. The Brits and our selves have been driving our low tech jobs to China and India in persuit of lower consumer prices and now all of our money is over there and is going to cost us big time to borrow it back to start again.

There is a thread somewhere that says a 10% fall in GDP is an indicator of a depression, I hear lots of antidotal evedence at work about businesses being 50 and 60% back on last year, we must be damn close to it.

Waterford Wedgewood sold

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The US company is said to be committed to maintaining some employment in Waterford, although it is not known how many of the 708 jobs that were there before manufacturing halted will ultimately be saved.

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Some jobs is better than none. Would be surprised if they took on all the pension obligations. I suppose its a watch this space situation...

What is the job situation actually like in Ireland right now? All I read is gloom and doom. I'm heading home, possibly for good, after being away for many many years. Are there any jobs at all on the go, even low-paying ones? I'm a young guy, no wife or children, no expensive habits. Would I be able to get by fine living in Cork or Dublin? Cheers.

The job situation is poor and getting worse I'm afraid. Ireland Inc is shut in all sectors. If you read that it's doom and gloom, it's not fairy stories, it's because it is doom and gloom.

The latest unemployment figures are out this week, and will probably be about 10%, not seen since the early-nineties.

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Originally Posted by Colbert Report

What is the job situation actually like in Ireland right now? All I read is gloom and doom. I'm heading home, possibly for good, after being away for many many years. Are there any jobs at all on the go, even low-paying ones? I'm a young guy, no wife or children, no expensive habits. Would I be able to get by fine living in Cork or Dublin? Cheers.

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Impossible to comment unless know what type of job you looking at. That said seems most people just keeping their heads down hoping to keep their job so can ride it out...

There are jobs there, but all sectors are shedding jobs and slowing recruitment (including the public sector where contract staff and staff in their probationary periods are being let go, and positions aren't being filled). It'd depend on what jobs you're after and what skills you have.

we have a hire freeze last few months. also had a few people I hadnt heard from in ages contact me looking for work so must be what the recruitment agencies are telling people to do. try any contact you have and just send them a mail or a text. ya never know. I didnt have anything cause of the pay freeze but did get a couple interviews elsewhere.

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Originally Posted by Billsthoughts

we have a hire freeze last few months. also had a few people I hadnt heard from in ages contact me looking for work so must be what the recruitment agencies are telling people to do. try any contact you have and just send them a mail or a text. ya never know.

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Individuals or Agencies contacting you?

I think Recruitment Agencies do the cold calling when they are not busy - had a few of them onto us just fishing for work in recent months...

I think the problem with moving job in this climate is that you don't know what financial situation they are in, at least with existing employer you should have better idea if business coming in.

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Originally Posted by pete

I think the problem with moving job in this climate is that you don't know what financial situation they are in, at least with existing employer you should have better idea if business coming in.

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Plus many of your employment rights and entitlements don't kick in for a year.

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Originally Posted by Macy

Plus many of your employment rights and entitlements don't kick in for a year.

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Statutory redundency isn't much but better than nothing.

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Originally Posted by pete

Statutory redundency isn't much but better than nothing.

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But it is better. And still you have more employment rights after a year.

26k added last month, with 3 days less in that month.

Figures are 353k, 80k since December, and a national unemployment rate of 10.4%.

Starting to fear a social welfare tax coming up in the next budget. Which morally would be economic treason, by penalising the innocent victims at the very, very bottom end of the economic ladder. I couldn't vote for a party that ever carried or threatened to carry out such a measure.

Probably the shocking thing about the unemployment numbers is i think it has increased 78% in last 12 months & takes no account of the people on 3 day week or say one week off every month.

The more shocking thing is that the government don't care about the figures. They'll be put to bed, while they concentrate on those in the public sector and their finances (people who have jobs) until the next haemorrage figures are released next month. :rolleyes:

The government should remember that they have a responsibility to look after every person in the country, not just those crying at losing €50-odd a week. :mad:

The problem is that in order to look after the people on the dole (not sure what you mean by the way and what they should do) is to drop the corporate rate of tax and to have further tax incentives for companies and entrepreneurs to create jobs. However there is not much of a climate out there for that sort of thing as people will see that as rewarding the rich.

The other thing they can do is to help those on the dole is to increae their benefits, something they are not going to do with the public finances the way they are and also as we are in a largely deflationary environment.

Another thing they could do is to employ more people in the Dept of Social Welfare to deal with the long waiting list for people to get their dole. Again because of the public finances they will not do this. However there is a call for temporary staff to help with this.

THere are a few other things they can do like re-training in areas that are growth areas (is there any out there?) They could also have tax incentives for employers who employ more staff this year and have some sort of half and half measue for people to keep their staff on etc. THere does need to be creative thinking in this area.

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Originally Posted by mypost

I couldn't vote for a party that ever carried or threatened to carry out such a measure.

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What about the other 4,297 reasons not to vote for them?

Were the backdrop not so serious, I'd have died laughing at Greens Deputy Leader Mary Whites uggesting a text message tax this morning.

The Government are spineless, baseless, self-serving cowards without a scintilla of remorse for their role in getting us to this position, but even worse, they will do anything to postpone raising taxes on their watch, even when, day-by-day, it further jeopardizes our fiscal position. In this light, the request for the opposition to provide ideas should be seen for what it is, a pathetic attempt to share the blame for the inevitable cutbacks that will be suggested rather than being a positive example of "pulling together in a crisis".

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Originally Posted by NeilMcD

Another thing they could do is to employ more people in the Dept of Social Welfare to deal with the long waiting list for people to get their dole. Again because of the public finances they will not do this. However there is a call for temporary staff to help with this.

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There has to be areas of the public sector which are very quiet now due to lack of economic activity - I presume they have been reallocated?

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Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

What about the other 4,297 reasons not to vote for them?

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You treat the unemployed as taboo. It's already tough getting by on €10k a year, without the added punishment of a tax or cutback on the measly amount given to them.

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Originally Posted by mypost

You treat the unemployed as taboo. It's already tough getting by on €10k a year, without the added punishment of a tax or cutback on the measly amount given to them.

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I don't disagree that it's tough but energy costs are falling and there is price deflation.

Either the Government make the numbers add up or the IMF will.

We're a good way off IMF ground yet.

Energy prices have dropped by the bare minimum, but the cost of living is still high. Transport costs are still at January levels and won't come down. Pub and restaurant prices remain unchanged.

Saw Lenihan's interview tonight on RTE, which reading between the lines, he's clearly looking at social welfare cuts. Apparantly, handing €6.50 last January was a "generous increase". :rolleyes: It wouldn't even buy you a standard McDonalds meal.

If he could spend a month living on €800, less rent/mortgage/bills, he wouldn't dare touch social welfare. Hitting the most vulnerable in society is not treason, it's daylight robbery.

No offence but I wouldn't necessarily include pubs, restaurants and McDonalds in the "struggling to make ends meet" category.

There's price deflation in many key areas. That's a fact.

As for being far away from the IMF, day by day, it looks more likely that they, or the EU, will have to bail us out.

The IMF question is for the financial crisis thread.

Deflation or inflation, imposing a sw cut will cause uproar. You don't attack the most vulnerable in society, be they OAP's or the dole, you just don't. Lenihan will have to find other means of getting the state's finances in order.

Job creation should be the number one priority for the government, not playing musical chairs every few months with the public finances.

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Originally Posted by mypost

The more shocking thing is that the government don't care about the figures. They'll be put to bed, while they concentrate on those in the public sector and their finances (people who have jobs) until the next haemorrage figures are released next month. :rolleyes:

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I'm not sure what you're getting at, the public sector is looking at more cuts on top of tax increases. I'm not sure pushing more onto the dole queues will help anyone...

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Originally Posted by mypost

Saw Lenihan's interview tonight on RTE, which reading between the lines, he's clearly looking at social welfare cuts. Apparantly, handing €6.50 last January was a "generous increase". :rolleyes: It wouldn't even buy you a standard McDonalds meal.

If he could spend a month living on €800, less rent/mortgage/bills, he wouldn't dare touch social welfare. Hitting the most vulnerable in society is not treason, it's daylight robbery.

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You can't really deal in individual money amounts like E6.50 as I am sure this is all done on percentage basis. Would E10 or E20 increase be generous? Social Welfare rates will always be less than people think they should be as there is no correct answer.

Private Members Motion in the Dail now, discussing unemployment.

Well, Labour who tabled the motion are discussing it. The FF-Green cabinet are busy pointing out their efforts with training and education schemes in response. :mad:

In one ear and out the other. :rolleyes:

From reading your posts I know what you are against but I do not have a clue what you are for. YOu have offered no solutions on this board or any really constructive criticism. People may argue over less tax or more tax etc etc but at least people can agree that there is an intellectual basis for both sides I do not see any intellectual basis for any of your comments other than they are rants to be honest.

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Originally Posted by mypost

Private Members Motion in the Dail now, discussing unemployment.

Well, Labour who tabled the motion are discussing it. The FF-Green cabinet are busy pointing out their efforts with training and education schemes in response. :mad:

In one ear and out the other. :rolleyes:

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Given you seem to think reducing taxes and increasing social welfare is an appropriate way to deal with what's going on I'm at a loss to know what to say.

The emphasis should be on job creation and stimulating the economy. Tax increases are not going to stimulate the economy and will cut jobs.

With respect to the training that the government are so fond of, you can do all the training you like, but if there is no job at the end of it, or the economy hasn't picked up by then in order for someone to find a job, the training is practically useless, and all it succeeds in doing is waste more money.