El Tels Barcelona had to miss all their penalties to let Steaua win the EC final shoot out in the mid 80's
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El Tels Barcelona had to miss all their penalties to let Steaua win the EC final shoot out in the mid 80's
Remember Venables saying that in the Semi everyone wanted to take a peno including the keeper (Zubi ?) but when it came to the Final he had to beg players to take one. Steaua won 2-0 !Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
The Czechs (and Slovaks) have taken 20 penalties (in shootouts) and scored every one. Best of all was Panenka of course.
My highlight of the tournament so far.......
They play that dance song from 1998(in or around, can't think of the song) after every goal and it was memorable to see all the French going mad to the song when they got it back to 2-1, the song was only turned off 2 seconds before Robben scored that cracking goal and back on came the song again with the Dutch going even crazier to it, while the French were speechless :D
http://youtube.com/watch?v=n5iqLPOvMmw
1:45 on, you can still hear the song playing when he got inside the box :D
What an unbelievable game tonight...One of the greats...
Cech shown up for his average keeping abilities at last!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Red&White Rover
Brilliant game, probably the defining game of the tournament (as CZE-NED was in 2004.)
Really enjoying this tournament have to say, the game tonight wasnt great apart form the last 20 mins IMO but them last 20 minutes were brilliant! Shocked when Turkey scored their 3rd! Thought the Czechs were better overall though.
Only caught the second half and it was pretty incredible. Full of excitement and chances. I thought that at 2-0 the Czechs would go on to win it, especially after the Polak miss but Turkey came back and sensationally won it.
Once the first Nihat goal went in, I felt Turkey would win though in my mind I was thinking it'd be on penos. Brilliant second goal from Nihat, amazing finish.
I don't think Cech's been "shown up", he just made a mistake. Fair play to him for going on BBC afterwards and explaining it.
I wanted any team but Turkey to go through. They are a horrible team and are scum. The sending off at the end proves my point. They where elbowing, kicking their way through their match. Crying like babies when a decision went against them. The team, the fans and anything got to do with them have caused trouble going back so many years now and they get away with it.
I hope Croatia hammer them in Vienna.
Saying that their last goal was a peach
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Originally Posted by Sheridan
Was forced to watch Inspector Lyndley on BBC :mad: I bet George H had the game done and dusted at 2-0 and was astounded that another team could come from behind. Gutted to have missed it, having seen nearly all the games todate.
I don't think they whinge and cheat any more than the other teams in the tournament. It's endemic. Their fans are probably more passionate than most.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe_barry80;
I think those comments are as disgrace. It's not as even if you had sour grapes as them beating us as an excuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe_barry80
Turkey were lucky to go through but we've had our own stupid sendings off as well. Their team was anything but dirty last night. Certainly we had a few scarey moments after the game in Istanbul in 91 but otherwise I've never had aproblem with their fans and really enjoy the passion they bring to their games.
Unreal finish, the Czechs looked old and jaded at the end, fair play to the Turks for not giving up, felt sorry for Cech, keeping is a confidence game and he looked pretty shook.
few points on last nights game.
How was the Turkish coach allowed get away with manhandling the 4th official after the 2nd Czech goal?
How was the Turkish keeper allowed remain on the bench after his sending off?
Adding one extra minute on top of the 4 at the end when at least 2 if not 3 of those 4 had been wasted with the sending off and the booking of Baros, was a complete sham.
My father rang me after wanting to know why the ref hadn't given a penalty when the keeper pushed Koller over but I presume as the ball was already out of play that he could not.
Must say the Turks played some great football in the second half. They missed a hatful of chances even before Arda got their first. They had the Czechs under immense pressure and Plasil's goal was agaisnt the run of play when the Turks had a man off injured. You get a real buzz after watching a game like that - the excitement was unreal. Cracking winner by Nihat - Jankulovsky stepped up too late to play offside.
Kazim Richards was a disaster when he came on and it was in spite of him that they won the game. And he had the nerve to come out in an interview after the game and say something along the lines of "the manager has shown he's a brilliant tactician by bringing me on and winning the game"!!
I didnt hear the interview but its a weird one this Kazim Richards. I had never even heard of him before this tournament. He was excellent in the first game I thought, one of, if not Turkeys best player, but was then dropped to the bench and brought on in the 2nd half of the two other group games where he has been fairly non existent.Quote:
Originally Posted by lionelhutz
Delighted that the Turks won - sick of the diving antics of the Czech Rep all tournament. Great last 20 minutes and makes up for the fact that I missed Holland/France Friday night.
Very happy to see Turkey go through. Great win and deserved too IMO.
Today, I fancy Germany to win 2-0 with Klose scoring 1st.
And Poland could beat Croatia, maybe 2-1.
Really didnt want the Turks to go through... if there ever was a team of moaners and whingers then look no further. The manager has to be the biggest prat ever. Fair play to the ref, he was excellent throughout and didn't let them get to him..... as far as the comments about Turkey not being dirty, they got the first 4 bookings. Luckily I had my always back Turkey and Greece to get the first yellow in every match bet in place.... its been a profitable tournement so far!
Turkey do play some great football when the get into gear and Nihats goal was superb. I think Bruckner really fuped it up by leaving on Koller instead of bringing on Baros..... Kollers legs were gone by the 60th min and Baros would have been a great man to catch the Turks on the counter.
What a tournement though...... im still confident in my backing Croatia, I think they are solid in every dept.
If I can be the grey in the middle for a moment betwixt your defence of the Turks and the lashing they just took from Joe. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by gspain
...I recall saying to myself last night that if that Turkey team would only get on with it and set aside the cynical stuff they'd be a handy side. BUT in the first half their entire philosophy seemed to be built on studs up and elbows out at every opportunity. The yellow cards they got were all stone cold no brainers and they could've had worse.
Much, much better footballing side in the second half. Dunno if the better team won all things considered but the Turkish lads had a hell of a hill to climb and fair play* (no pun intended) they went and did it.
Austria-Germany shaping up to be a good game. Two crunching tackles from Austria, who are well up for it, and one of the worst missed ever from Germany, all within the first four minutes.
You are correct. The ball has to be in play, doesnt matter where, for it to be a penalty.Quote:
Originally Posted by razor
LOL...Quote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
I told ye boyos.. the czechs were evens not to qualify from their group..i said it was a CERT.. that will get me a nice holiday away.. they always faulter - not strong enough mentally..
i will let ye know when theres more free money available!!!
romania tomorrow at 11/10 is oustanding value..
get on it lads ;)
Turkey - Croatia will be one to watch. Originally I would have picked the Croats to win. However, now I can see the Turks going through. In every tournament there are around two teams who develop with the tournament. I think Turkey are doing this and will progress because of this.
I personally think Croatia will win but it will be a very interesting match. One factor which obviously favours Croatia is the sending off of Volkan in the last minute. He's a pretty decent goalkeeper and even though they have experienced back up in Rustu, is he past it by this stage? This could be a decisive factor in the outcome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coltron
I just heard on the radio that if Italy get a score draw with France and Romania lose, then Italy go through. I don't think thats right. Is the following not correct;
Romania win, they go through
Romania draw, France or Italy win - then France/Italy go through
Romania draw, France/Italy draw - Romania go through
Romania lose, France or Italy win - France/Italy go through
Romania lose by less than three, France/Italy draw - Romania go through
Romania lose by three or more, France/Italy draw - Italy go through on goals scored
From BBC site:Quote:
Originally Posted by lionelhutz
If France and Italy share a score draw (1-1, 2-2, 3-3 etc), Italy will go through if Romania lose (by any score). In this scenario, Italy, Romania and France will be level on two points each but Italy would have scored more goals in games between the 3 teams.
Here's a link for all the possible scenarios.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/foot...ly/7457863.stm
How am I a lunatic for copying and pasting something?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruben Sosa
And maybe you should read the whole post...
Thanks for that DDD. Here's hoping for a 0-0 in the French game. I've a feeling Holland will beat Romania even with their second string and Italy and France will draw 1-1 meaning Italy scrape throughQuote:
Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge
jmurphyc: Rustu, as you say, has the experience. And being a goalkeeper age doesn't diminish ability at the same steep rate that it does to an outfield player so there is reason for faith. Plus, it's one game. He has enough in him, I think, to at least put in a credible 90 minutes. You can also be sure that he will be ready to take this opportunity with (ahem)both hands.
Rustu has been past it for three years. His reflexes have gone.
We've just had confirmation that Domenech is an idiot.
France go down to ten man in a match they have to win. So he takes off his most creative player for Jean-Alain Boumsong.
He blew it by not having Flamini and Mexes in the squad. Abidal looked up the loire without a paddle in the center of defence, Mexes could have done a job there. And anyone with two working legs (maybe even Domenech himself) would have been better then Makalele who looks about as mobile as the Exxon Valdez.
Even if he had taken along young players (Mexes, Flamini, Clichy, Ben Afra) or played the fringe players (Gomis, Diarra) at least he could have built something for WC2010, as it is the French will be going into the qualifiers blind, not knowing who to play in the starting eleven.
Rustu was kept out of the Besiktas team by Hakan Arikan, who has the following record in the Champions League this seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by Sheridan
Marseille Away let in 2
Porto Home let in 1
Liverpool Home let in 1
Liverpool Away let in 8 (yes that's eight)
He was then dropped
Rustu played in one CL game
Marseille Home let in 1
Porto Away let in 2
I think Rustu is ok for one game, Volkan is better (a very good keeper) but the Turks have no options, apart from the Galatasaray keeper Orkun Usjak, Trabzonspor (the best non Istanbul team) have a Brazilian keeper "Jefferson".
By the way I think the Dutch have dropped a clanger here. I know it would have been unpopular, but had they lost today and let the Romanians through they would be looking at an easier path to the final. I think the Italians might well take care of them in the semis now.
I don't think the Italians will beat Spain in the QFs. Pirlo and Gattuso out is a big blow and Toni is really off-form. I can see Aquilani and Del Piero coming in but I don't think they'll do enough.
Whereas Spain will have their strong midfield intact and they have a striker who can't stop scoring in Villa.
I think it will be Perotta, De Rossi and Aquilani. Is Puyol out for the Spanish ? I think they are suspect and I would like to see what they could do if they went behind. To be honest they don't have that much form coming into the game the Russia match aside they've edged wins vs Peru, the USA and Sweden and Italy (1-0 3 months ago) but these have all been at home bar Sweden - I think this will be like the USA 94 match and the Italians will edge it (but no need for the Tassotti Enrique incident).
I think Germany will make the final but Italy won't, with Pirlo and Gattuso out it swings it in Spains favour for me and also the fact that Toni is putrid muck
Lets hope so, coz I've got a tenner on that at 18/1.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruben Sosa
I had Pirlo to score first and Italy to win 2-1 @ 75-1. Useless French tossers.
Does Henry just spend all his time moaning? Captain material? The French needed somebody to grab the game and his team mates by the scruff of the neck and drag them through (kicking and screaming if necessary).
It says a lot about your defence when Boumsong actually improves it. Domenech has to go. When you leave out Mexes, Flaimini, Clichy and Sagna at home you know something must be wrong.
Yeah, the French were pretty poor. I knew it before the tournament, but it just confirms that Domenech is out of his depth. I rate Abidal very highly but he was extremely poor against the Romanians and should never have been played in the centre for the Italy game. Domenech's squad selection really damaged their hopes as did the realisation that Thuram's legs had gone (which came too late).
I'm delighted though, as I put money on Italy to win the tournament at 18-1 before the game. Now their odds have dropped to 7-2 in some places so I can ensure I get my money back by laying on them!