Mayo League Division 2 2008

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Originally Posted by walshek

table will look abit like this. to be honest this league can turn with 2 results
Cross Celtic 13 9 2 2 32 12 20 29
Glenisland United 14 8 1 5 35 15 20 29
Mulranny United 13 8 1 4 43 14 29 28
Swinford B 14 6 4 4 30 23 7 25
Claremorris B 13 6 5 2 30 28 2 23
Castlebar Town 13 6 3 4 30 19 11 22
Kiltimagh/Knock United B 14 4 8 2 19 28 -9 14
Manulla C 14 2 9 3 14 32 -18 9
Hollister 13 2 10 1 23 43 -20 7
Ballyglass B 13 2 10 1 14 56 -42 7

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Walshek, C/Town will be on 28 pts. with 15 played and Mulranny on 31 with 14 played. We were due to play Ballyglass twice and Mulranny to play them once.
If you look at Mulrannys run in compared to Cross and Glenisland they have Manulla and Hollister twice and Claremorris i cant see anyone catching them. Its in there hands. We still have to play Glenisland and Cross have a very tough run in with Three tough away games and also Claremorris and Swinford with second place posible it will be an interesting run in.:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by footie2008

Walshek, C/Town will be on 28 pts. with 15 played and Mulranny on 31 with 14 played. We were due to play Ballyglass twice and Mulranny to play them once.
If you look at Mulrannys run in compared to Cross and Glenisland they have Manulla and Hollister twice and Claremorris i cant see anyone catching them. Its in there hands. We still have to play Glenisland and Cross have a very tough run in with Three tough away games and also Claremorris and Swinford with second place posible it will be an interesting run in.:rolleyes:

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How are things lads? Never really came on this forum before, mostly just Premier League and Super League threads. Have to say, yours is more football-based and informative in general. Àwful amount of griping and bull**** on some others, notably the superleague one. Best of luck to teams over the run-in.

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Any predictions lads on Claremorris B v Cross on Thursday eve. and Glenisland v Cross Saturday eve. If Cross slip up on these tough away games it opens up the playoff place.
Claremorris B 2 Cross 1 !
Glenisland 2 Cross 2!:eek:

Having spoken to the Cross lads I have no doubt that they will come away with a win from both games assuming Claremorris don't stack their team with A players. Having spoken to some of them at the previous games in Glencorrib I don't think it is their style. Time will tell. What time are these matches on?

lads lads lads, claremorris will only be fielding there b players only. the club does not allow this type of messing going on. B players only for tomorrow night game but alot missing. Claremorris has asked for game to be moved to weekend due to the time of k/o 6.45 which is crazy for a thursday game. Claremorris has 6 lads working in galway finishing up at 6 and the same in sligo. So unless there is no cars on the road claremorris will be fielding a very young team. Time will tell on this one. i thick this will be a easy 3 points for cross. all thursday game should be canned a few weeks ago and scheduled at weekend. This is not fair on both cross and claremorris b

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Originally Posted by sinabhuil

Having spoken to the Cross lads I have no doubt that they will come away with a win from both games assuming Claremorris don't stack their team with A players. Having spoken to some of them at the previous games in Glencorrib I don't think it is their style. Time will tell. What time are these matches on?

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Both games are at 6.45pm kickoffs i think.

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Originally Posted by walshek

lads lads lads, claremorris will only be fielding there b players only. the club does not allow this type of messing going on. B players only for tomorrow night game but alot missing. Claremorris has asked for game to be moved to weekend due to the time of k/o 6.45 which is crazy for a thursday game. Claremorris has 6 lads working in galway finishing up at 6 and the same in sligo. So unless there is no cars on the road claremorris will be fielding a very young team. Time will tell on this one. i thick this will be a easy 3 points for cross. all thursday game should be canned a few weeks ago and scheduled at weekend. This is not fair on both cross and claremorris b

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Surley these are mind games, when the Town played you away on a Thurday evening you were saying the same things and you had 10 subs. No disrespect to Cross but i hope you can get a result , you still have an outside chance of second and it will help the Towns cause.

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Originally Posted by sinabhuil

Having spoken to the Cross lads I have no doubt that they will come away with a win from both games assuming Claremorris don't stack their team with A players. Having spoken to some of them at the previous games in Glencorrib I don't think it is their style. Time will tell. What time are these matches on?

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[SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Very disrespectful to suggest that Claremorris will play illegal players, which is what A team players are. Claremorris B will be trying to win this match so will be sticking with their B team players:)[/FONT][/SIZE]

Clew Bay 5 Ballina 0, well deserved win for Clew Bay, nice way to win the league!

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Originally Posted by Tube Station

Clew Bay 5 Ballina 0, well deserved win for Clew Bay, nice way to win the league!

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Congratulations to Clew Bay

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Originally Posted by Tube Station

Clew Bay 5 Ballina 0, well deserved win for Clew Bay, nice way to win the league!

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fair play to yee lads.well deserved after all the hard work yee've put in over the last couple of years.decent bunch of lads too

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Originally Posted by Tube Station

Clew Bay 5 Ballina 0, well deserved win for Clew Bay, nice way to win the league!

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Well done lads, have been the best team in the league by a long way. Been knocking at the door for a long time. You will have to be touting for some extra players now will you TS? Definately a center half to partner the other lad. ;)

Well Done to Clew Bay on winning 2A. Ye really deserved it and glad to see ye done it in style.

Some interesting ties left. Swinford B have both Glen and Cross to play. Claremorris B against Mulranny also a good game. Cross slipped up against Glenisland on Saturday in a very good game of football. Teams were fairly matched in the first half even though Glen got a lucky goal and Cross were denied two blatant penalties. Must be said though that Glenisland were much the better team in the 2nd half and ran out easy winners 3-1.
Whilst not an excuse the Mayo League did not cover themselves in glory. Cross had to play 2 games in 3 days and they definitely looked very tired against Glenisland. Both of the games were in very soft conditions and Cross had to field with some very inexperienced players.

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Originally Posted by irishyop

Well done lads, have been the best team in the league by a long way. Been knocking at the door for a long time. You will have to be touting for some extra players now will you TS? Definately a center half to partner the other lad. ;)

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Cheers for all the well wishes lads! Div 2b seems very close

Alright lads does anyone know what will happen if Glenisland and Cross end up joint second on the same points??

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Originally Posted by bananaboots

Alright lads does anyone know what will happen if Glenisland and Cross end up joint second on the same points??

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They will have to play off to see who finishes second - goal difference does not count. Then the team who wins that plays second in 2A and the winner of that play off plays the third from bottom in Div 1.

Simple Really:confused::confused::confused:

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Originally Posted by BallyBoy

They will have to play off to see who finishes second - goal difference does not count. Then the team who wins that plays second in 2A and the winner of that play off plays the third from bottom in Div 1.

Simple Really:confused::confused::confused:

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Are the playoffs on neutral venues or is there home and away involved ?

The playoffs are played in Milebush, one game has to won on the day, extra time, penos if needed. It looks like Cross will be second, Glenisland may have lost out after the Swinford result. If its Ballyheane in the playoffs they will put out half their first team. They done it to us two years ago, very unfair on a team trying to go up as they were relegated straight down the year after because their squad is not big enough for two good sides.

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Originally Posted by footie2008

The playoffs are played in Milebush, one game has to won on the day, extra time, penos if needed. It looks like Cross will be second, Glenisland may have lost out after the Swinford result. If its Ballyheane in the playoffs they will put out half their first team. They done it to us two years ago, very unfair on a team trying to go up as they were relegated straight down the year after because their squad is not big enough for two good sides.

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It's a sad state of affairs when you go through a league season and finish in the play-off spot and come up against a "B" or "C" team, only to find it's full of first teamers. I feel sorry for your team of two years ago if ye were denied by blatant rule breaking. What have teams to prove or what satisfaction can be gotten from going up illlegally. Surely it's a pointless exercise as they will be found out in the division above and be straight back down the folllowing year. Surely the Mayo League could form a Reserve League, although that would probably tar the genuine second and third teams with the same brush as the messers. Are the Mayo League in a position to mail on a Registered Squad List of all teams in each Division to their opponents?? I suspect teams will still field illegal players under a registered players name. Also the referee's have a big part to play. If a referee sees a player playing for the A team this week and the B team the following week, has he a duty to report this to the Mayo League??? It's a very frustrating situation as a hell of a lot is sacrificed by Managers, Trainers, Players, Committee's and Members during the year, only for it to be taken away by a bigger club with a B or C team who don't bother to play fair. It's two fingers to all the honest clubs out there.:mad::confused::eek:

Any team has the right to request a photograph be taken of the opposition. I agree and whilst at it if the striker playing for Knock/Kiltimagh last week is a 2nd team player their first team should be winning the superleague.

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Originally Posted by sinabhuil

Any team has the right to request a photograph be taken of the opposition. I agree and whilst at it if the striker playing for Knock/Kiltimagh last week is a 2nd team player their first team should be winning the superleague.

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One of their team made a comment before the game that they had 5-6 A team players playing as they preferred playing for the B team.

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Originally Posted by footie2008

The playoffs are played in Milebush, one game has to won on the day, extra time, penos if needed. It looks like Cross will be second, Glenisland may have lost out after the Swinford result. If its Ballyheane in the playoffs they will put out half their first team. They done it to us two years ago, very unfair on a team trying to go up as they were relegated straight down the year after because their squad is not big enough for two good sides.

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That is pure bull. I played in that game and the same players that played all year played in the play off. Secondly we were relegated last season only in a play off with more or less the same team. If you want to name some players to give some substance to your comment it would help!. I do agree however that the b team rule is looked at again because of the general abuse of the rules.

Hi Lads. can the following not happen at the start of each season. First 16 players named and displayed in the mayo.fai web site for all to see. This could be done in about 2 hours with the register putting the names up. Simple them for all clubs to see and review. at the moment there is no way to see where this data is. i agree with all on players been used across all team. it happens in all clubs and i have seen it for years. time to stop it now

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Originally Posted by NoelM

One of their team made a comment before the game that they had 5-6 A team players playing as they preferred playing for the B team.

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thats pure bull, all players that played v Cross Celtic are registered as B team, a few have played for A team on Thur nights because lads away working and A team short numbers thats all.....

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Originally Posted by walshek

Hi Lads. can the following not happen at the start of each season. First 16 players named and displayed in the mayo.fai web site for all to see. This could be done in about 2 hours with the register putting the names up. Simple them for all clubs to see and review. at the moment there is no way to see where this data is. i agree with all on players been used across all team. it happens in all clubs and i have seen it for years. time to stop it now

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Would also need to have a rule that anyone who makes a certain number of appearances for A team(say four) is then not allowed to play for B team if they have one. This would prevent the possibility(!) of clubs naming 16 non playing club members on their A panel at start of season, making everyone strictly eligible to play for both A&B.

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Originally Posted by sprah1

Would also need to have a rule that anyone who makes a certain number of appearances for A team(say four) is then not allowed to play for B team if they have one. This would prevent the possibility(!) of clubs naming 16 non playing club members on their A panel at start of season, making everyone strictly eligible to play for both A&B.

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I think this is a discussion that could run and run. The current replies are typical with a "Oh yes ye did.......Oh no we didn't" theme. We have played a number of teams during the year that are definitely loading their teams for certain games. Teams have been beaten 7 nil in a game and then in the corresponding fixture gotten a draw or a narrow defeat. The fact that the A team happen to be playing on the same day as the 7 nil hammering and have a weekend off for the corresponding fixture, is surely more than a coincedence??????? I could accept it if there was a rule that every player can play A or B football, but from once he plays ONE GAME for the A's, he then cannot play for the B team again. But there doesn't seem to be any real rules in force at all, or if there are who's enforcing them. We're discussing it here and accepting that it goes on, but what's been done about it????
There's a team in Div.2 at the moment that have a complaint lodged against them for playing an illegal player. The fact that the player involved was registered for a totally different team in a different Division, is really just giving everyone else the two fingers.....:eek:

[I]There's a team in Div.2 at the moment that have a complaint lodged against them for playing an illegal player. The fact that the player involved was registered for a totally different team in a different Division, is really just giving everyone else the two fingers.....

Do tell oh wise one!!!

go on couch spud name the team and let the cat out of the bag.

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Originally Posted by walshek

go on couch spud name the team and let the cat out of the bag.

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its not me that knows it walshek, its Phoenix

ye might as well spill the beans lads. whos the smart arse playin for 2 clubs?. this disscussion is the same every year, no mater how you do it its never going to be completely watertight. the refs are the only people seeing the same teams on a regular basis they should report a team if they ref them 1 week and see them turn up with a totally different team the following week.

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

There's a team in Div.2 at the moment that have a complaint lodged against them for playing an illegal player. The fact that the player involved was registered for a totally different team in a different Division, is really just giving everyone else the two fingers.....:eek:

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Don't post any names here unless it's a fact.You are leaving yourself and this site wide open.

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

It's a sad state of affairs when you go through a league season and finish in the play-off spot and come up against a "B" or "C" team, only to find it's full of first teamers. I feel sorry for your team of two years ago if ye were denied by blatant rule breaking. What have teams to prove or what satisfaction can be gotten from going up illlegally. Surely it's a pointless exercise as they will be found out in the division above and be straight back down the folllowing year. Surely the Mayo League could form a Reserve League, although that would probably tar the genuine second and third teams with the same brush as the messers. Are the Mayo League in a position to mail on a Registered Squad List of all teams in each Division to their opponents?? I suspect teams will still field illegal players under a registered players name. Also the referee's have a big part to play. If a referee sees a player playing for the A team this week and the B team the following week, has he a duty to report this to the Mayo League??? It's a very frustrating situation as a hell of a lot is sacrificed by Managers, Trainers, Players, Committee's and Members during the year, only for it to be taken away by a bigger club with a B or C team who don't bother to play fair. It's two fingers to all the honest clubs out there.:mad::confused::eek:

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I fear a lot of soured grapes. First it should be pointed out no player is ilegal.
the rule is clear you name 16 A team players the rest are B team players and so on if you C team you name 16 B its that simple. No A team play may play for the B team, but B team players may assist the A team. Its no fault of any club should they have better players than one of a club who only have one team.
The old rules where change my the same club who now fines it frustrating, but that's life. these clubs where not happy when a player could only assist it B team 5 times then he became an A team player.
On the other hand you have to hand it to the clubs who have more than one team, and can manage to play all there games.
What do you do when a club has 40 players on its books but in one team?
No you have a B team.
Hope this helps

I was The Mayo League Register I can say with out doubt that no B team fields A team players.
Without running the risk of being thrown out of the league. All B team cards are Still being checked TO the present day By Gerry Sweeney. Have no doubt when you are Checking cards as I would have done you would fine it.
So before you start calling players illegal, at leased you should have objected to the Mayo League in writing rather coming on here and slating clubs who you think may have used player's who are registered with there B team and assisted there A team, does not make them illegal you and your clubs changed the rules.
as per rule 34.
I suggest that you go back to the drawing board and rewrite the rule if you think you can change it, for the next A.G.M. take note when you rewrite the rule that you can get it passed, that you delete of the existing rule which does not apply.
Wish you well in your task.

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Originally Posted by renovater

I was The Mayo League Register I can say with out doubt that no B team fields A team players.
Without running the risk of being thrown out of the league. All B team cards are Still being checked TO the present day By Gerry Sweeney. Have no doubt when you are Checking cards as I would have done you would fine it.
So before you start calling players illegal, at leased you should have objected to the Mayo League in writing rather coming on here and slating clubs who you think may have used player's who are registered with there B team and assisted there A team, does not make them illegal you and your clubs changed the rules.
as per rule 34.
I suggest that you go back to the drawing board and rewrite the rule if you think you can change it, for the next A.G.M. take note when you rewrite the rule that you can get it passed, that you delete of the existing rule which does not apply.
Wish you well in your task.

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i have no doubt that this is done but what can the league do when a player that not registered with a team and plays under a different name even though he signed with another team! see what you sort this one out! ;)

[quote=sprah1;991433]Predicted Final Positions Div 2b


Mulranny 41
Cross 40
Glen 37
Clare B 34
Ctown 31
Swin 29


Prediction wont be far off!

Any scores from the weekend?????

From 2B - Manulla 1 Cross 3; Glenisland 2 Castlebar Town 1; Claremorris 4 Hollister 0; Knock/Kiltimagh 1 Swinford 1 - I think!!

Well done to Cross. From last to second. Great season in a very competitive division. Good luck in the playoffs. Also well done to Mulranny. I dont know how you beat Claremorris by 3 goals.