Event the "room" was laughing at the reporter summary. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by strangeirish
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Event the "room" was laughing at the reporter summary. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by strangeirish
The Daily Show's John Oliver on the 8% undecided and which way they might go
Then she raises BOTh her hands....class :DQuote:
Originally Posted by jebus
Ladies and Gentlemen, introducing the Republican 'Base' that McCain/Palin are pandering to. Try not to barf all over your screens. The first video is about 4 1/2 mins and the second is about 5 mins. The second video has McCain/Palin supporters yelling across the street at Obama/Biden supporters to get a job:D, amongst other compliments. Oh the irony.
Edit: 25 seconds in, on the first video, are there that many arches on a 'M' now?:D
I like this one. Rednecks for Obama.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081009...eobamarednecks
Basic racism. Calling Obama a "European socialist" was very nasty & too much. :p Funny though given the Bush/Cheney bank nationalisation program.Quote:
Originally Posted by strangeirish
I read that McCain is pulling his ads linking Obama to terrorism as not going down well with Independent voters.
Hard to see how Obama can lose the election now. No knock out blows in foreign affairs & McCain can't win the economic debate unless he does u-turn on policies. I can't think tax cuts for millionaires goes down well in the US with bank executives earning millions from bankrupt companies.
I love the way they tell people they're "going to Russia". Open a paper dumbass.
How is Sarah palin treated by the media? Decent article in the IT, written by a Boston Globe columnist
I laughed out loud at this line
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One of the interviews, with Sean Hannity, a right-wing pundit on Fox, was cringe-inducingly obsequious, like watching Ryan Tubridy interview Jesus Christ.
For those Americans tempted by Sarah Palin who are thinking
...well you don't need any training or experience to do a good job
...the fact I like you is more important than that you're smart
...anyway the (admittedly not very healthy) septugenarian will be the real one in charge
I give you Steve Staunton, and didnt that go well
Obama buys 30 minute network slot
No doubt he will use it for a Presidential style address.Quote:
Barack Obama's presidential campaign is getting a bargain for the half-hour of prime time it's bought on CBS and NBC, and is in talks about buying on ABC and Fox.
The Democratic presidential candidate's camp is paying less than $1 million to each of the two networks to air its campaign-related program on Wednesday, Oct. 29
Has everyone seen the Aaron Sorkin-penned Bartlet-Obama meeting?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/21/op...wd-sorkin.html
(I probably found it here! :))
adam
'The people who want English to be the official language of the United States are uncomfortable with their leaders being fluent in it.':DQuote:
Originally Posted by dahamsta
It wasn't penned by Sorkin, that's just the title. It was written by Maureen Dowd.
EDIT: Hmm it says it was done in a call with him but a buddy of mine who's in the Dems and is a huge West Wing fan said it was Dowd that penned it.
Classic post thereQuote:
Originally Posted by cavan_fan
Are you kidding ? He brings up abortion ? Why is McCain continuously running to the right ? I am convinced they have decided they won't win and want to shore up the base for next time.
This is crazy. The thing the Obama camp feared was the softer, moderate McCain - the anti Gitmo, anti torture, working with Ted Kennedy - attractive to the independents.
This is over - in the absence of a major gaffe by BO (unlikely) or a major foreign intervention by somebody. Note how they announced a deal yesterday to pull out of Iraq - this is designed to hurt Mc
This should be over now - landlside time - unless we have a major gaffe or terrorist intervention someplace
They say McCain is the first republican nominee to move to the right after he got the nomination.Quote:
Originally Posted by Angus
Reading recently that the Republicans are looking to get back to their core principles of small government & low taxes while cutting the evangelicals lose if they lose the election.
Watched the debate last night (first time this election). Pretty good one, with some excellent questions by the moderator. Certainly gave both men a chance to show their differences.
I thought McCain started out well (line of the night "I'm not George Bush, if you wanted to run against him, you should've ruin 4 years ago") and he had slightly the upper hand on the financial front. However it all changed when he tried to say he was totally against negative ads and within 15 seconds attacked Obama over Ayers and ACORN. Obama handled it excellently and from then on answered each one of McCain's claims calmly and confidently. "Americans don't care about our hurt feelings on the campaign, they care about the real issues that affect them"
McCain became increasingly flustered and acted as if he knew this was his last chance (think of someone in "The Apprentice" trying to tell Sugar he shouldn't be fired). Obama definitely had the upper hand on health care, Energy and Education (Mccain thought more soldiers should be allowed teach without qualifications in answer to a question on why Americans spend more on eeducation and lag behind the rest of the world!)
ON abortion they're obviously on different levels but Obama answered all of McCain's claims and stood strong on his policy. Won't change anyone's minds on this though
McCain continued to bring it back to "joe the plumber" who he reckoned would be worse off under Obama. It was ridiculously annoying. While I thought McCain was shpaing up for a big win at the start he basically just lost it a little, and Obama definitely came across as more "presidential".
Saw probably the first half & much better than the other debates. Moderator was the key difference. McCain on the attack & the "should have run 4 years ago" line was a good one. He was clearly trying to paint Obama as a tax & spend socialist but Obama didn't take the bait. Obama seems to answer the Ayers & Acorn questions very well & McCain seemed petty when after Obama gave detailed answer said "the american people need to the details of the relationship". Maybe Obama should have asked what else he wanted to know but possibly no advantage to be gained there.
I don't know whether anyone has mentioned this but there's a third party debate this Sunday with Nader, Bob Barr (the Libertarian candidate) and a Green Party candidate whose name I don't know. McCain and Obama have been invited too, though I very much doubt they'll show up. I'll be watching, but I doubt anyone really cares too much.
What do you think is really going on here ? Is his campagin forcing him down this path ? He is not naturally this right wing - why is he running this campaign ? Obama is unbeatble now (leaving aside gaffe / terror event) but 12 months ago he was beatable - it's as if Mc had no strategy to beat Obama - Obama has been plannign to beat all of these guys, basically since the Iraq war voteQuote:
Originally Posted by pete
Also the Obama campaign put out media talking points before the debate where they referenced Mc's being "erratic" "unsteady" and "staggering" - this is so transparently a thinly disguised "old" comment - this is the first time since Clinton, and JFK before that, that a Dem campaign has played in the same game as the GOP - the Dems are ruthlessly efficient in this election - prob the most impressive campaign ever
Dodge pretty much summed up the night if people haven't watched it yet. I thought McCain did well in the opening exchanges but completely lost his way hilst talking about negative ad campaigning (can't believe he accused Obama of starting them). He sounded like a bitter old man for the rest of the night, even looking as if someone had roused him from his mid afternoon sleep at times, and then Obama slaughtered him on healthcare (worst beating I've ever seen a top ranking politician take in a live forum).
Game, set and match Obama :)
McCain certainly started out well and seemed to be in control for the first 30 minutes, but after that, it was all downhill from there. Obama showed tremendous discipline throughout the debate and none more so than when it came to the VP picks. He could have skewered Palin, but obviously thought the better of it.
He's still way ahead in the polls and it seems that McCain had one last chance to inject some doubt about Obama, but failed miserably.
I thought McCain fell between 2 stools on the two attacks he's been making about Ayres and Acorn. He should have either not brought them up or gone on a proper attack and told the people what Obama had done wrong. By mentioning them but not challenging Obama's explanations/excuses (delete according to your own opinions) he came across as a bit desperate, throwing these things out in hope rather than in expectation.Quote:
Originally Posted by strangeirish
Say it ain't so, Joe. Was 'Joe the plumber' a republican plant? Idle speculation maybe, but have a read any way. Click.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
If this turns out to be true, dirty deeds, done dirt cheap, springs to mind.
Worse still he isn't even a plumber or at least an illegal one! :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by strangeirish
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UPDATE: MSNBC has confirmed that Wurzelbacher has no plumbing license.
http://www.washtimes.com/news/2008/o...o-snl-weekend/
Palin to appear on SNL. Should be interesting
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...101603436.html
The Washington post strongly backs Obama for president (no big surprise)
I won at McCain Bingo last night. Democrats Abroad had a screening of the debate last night. One of the members handed around bingo cards based on clichéd terms McCain would use in the debate. His use of 'Country First' completed my 5-in-a-row for Bingo. No prize but it was a good laugh.
Whaaat??? :confused: "My Friends" didn't win it? :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Aberdonian Stu
Very good :D
It was gas. I'd say around two thirds of my sheet was filled in, had four different routes to victory but then he had a 5-10 minute spell without using a single new cliché, just recycling ones he'd already used before coming good in the end.
Maybe a good reason not to put too much faith in polls. A poll released Friday has McCain leading Obama by 52% to 46% in the traditional red state of Missouri. However, large rallies don't always equate to cast ballots, but you have to admit, 100 thousand people turning out for Obama on Saturday in Missouri, is quite impressive.
http://s.wsj.net/media/obamastlouis_...1018135311.jpg
The wife comments: "Pity there wasn't some of those postal workers around." ROFL.
As in, mailing in your vote???Quote:
Originally Posted by dahamsta
That's what I thought at first, but didn't get it. Edited my post to clarify the crowds turned out for Obama.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by dahamsta
Dammit, now I look like a moron. Again. :)
Obama truly is a rockstar in politics, and I know I'm going to regret supporting him in 2-3 years. But dammit, I do.
adam
Just watching Powell on MTP.
The story here, natch, is that Powell has endorsed Obama.
What was less reported was the withering summary of the GOP he has given - the most effective, most damning discussion of the GOP I have ever seen
Incredible TV
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540...65729#27265729
Up to approx 13 mins is the most effectively withering dimissing of the GOP
NB - note the constant use of the phrase "intellectual vigour" - a pop at W and Mc
An article on Obama and black votes to swing congress and senate seats?
Has anybody a source for the amount of newly registered voters based on party affiliation? Every article I read gives democrats at least 4/5 to every 1 republican. IF that’s nationwide (or at least in the "swing" states) Obama might win without people switching from republican to democrat
Don't have a source, but on our local news here this morning they said, in Florida, the Democrats have 600k new voter registrations compared to 250k for the Repugs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
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Originally Posted by Dodge
Evening Herald (Dublin) article from last week, stated 90,000 new Democrat registered voters in Nevada (or 90,000 more than Republicans). But it emphasised that the new voters had to turn up and vote as they had registered. It stated that with 90,000 more voters, than the Democrats had a good chance of over-turning the 21,000 votes Bush beat Kerry by in 2004.Quote:
Originally Posted by strangeirish
Also, the Herald mentioned a returning Republican Senator Terry published a letter from a Terry-Obama voter in a Nevada(?) newspaper.
What is the usually deadline for voters to register in any of the ballots?
It varies from state to state. Florida is 29 days before, Ohio is 30 days etc...Quote:
Originally Posted by HarpoJoyce
See here