Maybe Paddy Mulligan really believes that throwing that bun was the difference between him managing the Irish team or not. A wholehearted player but dumb as fxk as a manager. We were saved by a bun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfie
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Maybe Paddy Mulligan really believes that throwing that bun was the difference between him managing the Irish team or not. A wholehearted player but dumb as fxk as a manager. We were saved by a bun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfie
Why would it rule out Venables?Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
If Venables has put himself forward, the contract terms are within reach and the FAI decide to wait another few months, that is saying that they want somebody else to come along.
Or that they dont fancy paying him for doing nowt... It IS the FAI after all...
I doubt they're penny pinching this time. Getting it right is much more in their financial interests than saving a few bob now.
Perhaps, but it's extremely difficult for me to envisage any scenario where the FAI care more about football than money.....Maybe Im just cynical.
According to chatsoccer numerous candidates who applied for the job received no reply from the FAI/Amigos.
Yes, I am still waiting to hear from them :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
Howard Kendall anybody
no..jaysus..i feel an ulcer coming onQuote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
Sorry there I meant, in relation to the FAI not replying to be people.
feel better now
I would be reasonably confident it is a money thing. Not "penny pinching" as described by Stuttgart but hundreds of thousands of Euro. If you pay a manager a million Euro per annum, then approximately 200K of every home gate goes to that manager in a year. That's a huge proportion with the GAA already taking 20% of the gate receipts.
I reckon the appointment has stalled on the terms of contract (i.e. the dosh). I don't see any other reason since we know there have been interviews and there must be a preferred candidate among those interviewed.
Lovely jubbly.
Again, I'm not so sure. It'd be a finite contract, say 2 years, so the total amount paid out would be the same regardless of when it starts. Also, even if the appointment was made in December it'd in all likelihood have been with a start date in January.
People here are citing the FA's swift appointment of Capello - his contract started a few weeks after the appointment was announced.
I'd be happy with a 2 year contract to the end of the qualifiers, with the option of another 2 years based on performance, i.e play offs minimum achievementQuote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Can't understand why everyone keeps going on about how England appointed Capello so fast. He came out and said he wanted the job, then they appointed him. No 3 man committee, no short list, just one of the most successful managers in the game saying he wants the job. Nobody could screw it up.
how much do you reckon Venables would want for the job (I think the Bulgarian press quoted a figure)? I'd say his wage demands are higher than Brady's and Sanchez. Whoever gets the poisoned chalice should have a contract that runs till July 2010. A successful WC campaign should have a bonus trigger.
I think I could have used something similar to this selection process when selecting a partner instead of just falling in love.
Have you read "Innumeracy" by John Allen Paulos? There's a bit on how to chose you partner based on game theory and probability theory. Very funny.
Will get it, it looks more interesting than my wifes usual christmas book present why women don't have to change but men need to understand thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
So according to Innumeracy we cannot choose a candidate who we had previously rejected.
Here's one Patrick WalkerQuote:
Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
and another Rainer Bonhof
Not saying either would be acceptable or possible contenders but they did apply and haven't been co0ntacted.
The only part of the process that was speeded up were the negotiations with Capello. The FA made out a three man shortlist, approached the first name on the list, he refused, so on to the second.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
According to this - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/foot...ls/7109777.stm - Mourinho ruled himself out of the job, then Capello said he would be interested in it.
I see Givens is quoted as stating there is a fair chance the new candidate will be in the stands for the game against Brazil even though in the same breath he said that "three more" candidates to interview :confused:
Money is definitely what is delaying the process imho. The candidate has been chosen but the salary is a sticking point.
No, accepting second best is not on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
The FAI needs to take the brave step of admitting mistake in its selection procedures and start again from square 1.
That's rational Scandinavian thinking for you. I'm feeling more impulsive!
Rational could mean appointing Venables.
Though behind the veneer of the interview process the panel have made offers as they went along.
With hindsight the panel should control the interview process. Not take applications for the job and be obliged to interview every suit who applies.
I dont get this. They have spoken to most of the people we would like to see as manager. There was some interest but in the en not that many attractive candidates want the job. I sense they dont want to appoint Venables and are now just going to go on until the find someone else. What would going back to square 1 mean, speaking to Houllier again?Quote:
Originally Posted by ifk101
Maybe Pat Walker will get a call after all.
I was thinking along the lines of disbanding the panel.Quote:
Originally Posted by cavan_fan
But Brady would be a huge risk. At least Stan was an unknown quantity (sort of) - whereas Brady's record in management is known and was a disaster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
I had pints with a Brighton fan on Friday. He said Brady was good there but his biggest attribute was attracting good players to a lowly club. He used Dickov as an example.
On the other hand he said Coppell was a superb manager.
Whatever credentials Brady has for the job, there are not sufficient enough to command a seven digit wage.
Unfortunately the FAI jumped the gun here in announcing its willing to offer a seven-digit wage to the prospective manager. Silly, silly, silly.
This announcement has attracted every "has been" to the position and has resulted in the panel considering each of these "has beens" for the job. This is a waste of time and resources, especially in consideration that the panel is struggling to agree times and places that all three can meet. And nobody is going to accept the job now for less than seven-digits.
What needs to be done is to immediately disband the panel and headhunt who the FAI think is good enough for the job. Yes I know the FAI has stated that it doesn't have the knowledge to appoint the manager but they are dictating and shaping the selection process as it stands so the panel is not needed. They're already made a dog's dinner out of things so it's time to take a step backwards so we can move two forward.
The new manager should be appointed for the World Cup campaign only. Once this is done, the FAI should set out to appoint an international football consultant. This consultant should be used to appoint a new U21 manager with the understanding that this appointment can potentially be a credible candidate for the senior position. (This idea should be replicated all the way down to U15 level ie the U15 manager could, if needed, be promoted to U18 levels etc etc). In doing so, the FAI puts itself in the position where it can promote from within and thus strenghten its bargaining position and protect itself when it comes around to the next senior position appointment.
I have been impressed though by the silence of the 3 Panelists on the subject. There haven't been any leaks from them and it's the press (and foot.ie ;)) which has been driving the speculation. The FAI used to be a sieve but most of the holes now seemed to have been blocked.
Was a bit strange that the temporary manager should have been involved in the interviewing process. I am sure he had a slight conflict there as he probably had half an eye on the job himself as well as being distracted by preparing the team for the game against Brazil.
Still, it will be worth the wait I am sure as John Sheridan is unveiled as the new manager :D
'Houghton defends appointment process'
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2008/0205/houghtonr.html?rss
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According to the FAI, a new manager will be in place within the next eight days and in an interview on Sky television tonight Houghton said that he understood the general frustration with the drawn-out process.