Everton are very interested, so there will be a bidding war. Not sure which would be best as he'd be guaranteed his place at Everton but not so at Villa.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
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Everton are very interested, so there will be a bidding war. Not sure which would be best as he'd be guaranteed his place at Everton but not so at Villa.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
Doyler is good enough for most teams in the Premiership, hes better than anyone at Villa and I rate them hightly. I just think he is top classQuote:
Originally Posted by Scram
doyle is irelands star outfield player in my opinion. he contributes the most to the team other than shay, dunne runs him close though
He's a better version of Bendtner, a much better version. Imagine doyle with arsenal?:eek: MABY the level would be a step too high but he'd be animal thereQuote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
I am also a big admirer of Doyle and hope he gets a well deserved return to the premiership, but I do think some on here are overstating his ability.
nah he does have his limitations, for example he's not the most unpredictable or innovative of players but what he is good at is bringing people into play, running the channels, drawing fouls, scoring goals(something the much lauded heskey cant even do on form) and works hard for the team.
He is our version of Roman Pavlyuchenko.
irishultra - I agree with much of what you say. I just think that people saying he should play for Villa, being better than anyone there, or even perhaps at Arsenal is pushing it a bit.
oh ye when i saythats coming from an irish perspective, i'm sure arsenal could attract a much higher calibre(no disrespect to doyle) to their club but still I do think if Doyle was playing for arsenal he would be a revelation and bang in many goals. Would Wenger buy him? Definetly not. I could have seen Ferguson taking a punt on him if he was short of strikers, but needless to say they are full in that department.Quote:
doyle at arsenal
Fair enough.
As a matter of interest, how many goals did he score in his season in the Premiership? 6 in 36 appearances I think so let's not get carried away.
in fairness last season he was in a team that was playing poorly and he was pushed out to the wing alot. Im judging him on his Ireland performances. He holds the ball up so well and for a lad that isnt particularly tall he is rarely beaten in the air. I just think he needs to move to a club that will make himself push on to be an even better player.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
I think Agbonlahor is probably a better overall player than Doyle.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Fly
How?
He's not that good but what he does have is one world class attribute; pace. Doyle doesnt have any stand out features but his all round game is better IMO.
Carew is probably better than Doyle at this time but Doyle is younger and could develop at the right club.
Agbonlahor is a better goalscorer as well.
Reading won't see Doyle unless he wants to leave. Unless it is a massive bid they won't sell in January as their chances of promotion will evaporate without him. If they get promoted he will stay, if they don't get promoted he will be sold in the summer.
He had 2 seasons in the premiership. 13 goals in his first.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
Newcastle are about to bid 10 mil for Doyler according to Radio 5. I would not be surprised to see Newcastle bid for Stephen Hunt as well.
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Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
Well it would be a bit funny if they moved and Reading were promoted and Newcastle were relegated :D
Cork City would be sick. That would of got them stg£1,000,000 rather than the €200,000 that they took.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
They didn't have a choice at the time because they needed the money urgently.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingdomkerry
Hope Doyle stays away from Newcastle, although he would probably be a first team regular which won't be the case at the other clubs he has been linked with.
Well, despite some people here predicting that just about every team in the Premiership wanted Doyle, he remains at Reading. I have often wondered about this pro-Doyle anti-Keane thing many supporters have. There are a few behind me at Lansdowne who ignore any misplaced pass by Doyle but the minute Robbie loses possession, they're down on him like a ton of bricks. It is because Doyle was originally LoI ? Doyle isn't a bad player but is overrated by many and if you gave me the choice of Keane or Doyle, I'd always go for Keane.
Yes :DQuote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
Doyle and Hunt know they are at a brilliant club and don't need to move - Coppell I'm sure persuaded them to stay. I'd imagine there were a number of clubs after the pair of them but they'll be back in the PL next August so why mess a good thing up? Just ask Robbie.
Robbie vs Doyle? I rate both players so cannot really comment but have noticed the Pro Keane lobby tend to be from Dublin :)
RK has done far more for Ireland than Doyle, obviously as he has been playing far longer. Over the past couple of yrs Doyle has played far better than Keane in the green shirt if not necessarily at club level. We are lucky to have the two of them as it's about the only area of the pitch where we do have outstanding quality, and maybe the wings.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
Yeah like the public sector worker and the private sector worker. Do not set Robbie Keane and Kevin Doyle at loggerheads. They are not the problem.
dont you mean loggerbees? Loggerhead is 10 miles down the road....
I didn't mean to a disservice to Given, true enough though possibly our most important player, especially for the big games. I don't think Keane and Doyle are an ideal partnership but if the rest of the team plays well I'm sure they'll improve. I don't think any other partnership is an option anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ciaran
They've started together 17 times. Keane has scored 10. Doyle 4.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ciaran
Keane's total goal to start ratio for Ireland is 43%. With Doyle it's 59%.
Doyle's total goal to start ratio for Ireland is 30%. With Keane it's 24%.
It's not all about goals of course though.
They are some really interesting statistics. Maybe its my Wexford bias, but I was always a little critical of Keane's willingness to pass to Doyle in key positions.
However, since Trap took over they look a lot more like a functioning strike partnership. The performance in the away Georgia match I thought was particularly good.
Thats probably down to some decent coaching on the training pitch in the run up to games now, for the last couple of seasons they havent had that under Staunton. Im a big fan of Doyle and Keane and I still think they have the makings of a very good partnershipQuote:
Originally Posted by Diarmo
No, I think there were times we could all see that Doyle was frustrated when Keane elected not to pass. I'd say it wasn't usually outright selfishness though, more a case of poor decision making. Robbie's a skillful player so taking his man on is always an option for him, but too frequently from Doyle's (and our) perspective it has been the wrong option.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diarmo
Somewhat geekishly I do recall one intance in the Norway friendly where Doyle was screaming for a pass inside but Robbie went solo, but in that instance I think Norway's CB positioned himself well to cut out any prospective pass.
Personally I reckon the reason the partnership hasn't wholly gelled is because each has to work so hard to compensate for central midfield's weaknesses that they're usually very far apart and quite a distance from the midfield. Robbie is always dropping deep and Doyle is often seen out wide cutting the supply route from opposing full backs. If our midfield had a better grip on the game I think you'd see Keane & Doyle perform better both individually and together.
Definately a factor. They were dead on their feet toward the end of the Cyprus game...Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Lucky we dont have a Berbatov type character up front who couldnt be arsed putting in the hard work.Quote:
Originally Posted by dr_peepee
Just been awarded Irish International player of the year. Well deserved
Well done to Kevin Doyle, deserved the award. Had tough competition to win it, Shay Given and................. John O' Shea.
Scored again at last against...well you probably know who. A few more now before the Bulgaria game would be good. Long scored as well.
Long's goal was a cracker actually, ran on to a through ball into the penalty area, steadied himself, and shot across the keeper to the far side of the goal.
Doyle's was a header on the far post from a corner, was harder to miss to be honest. If you leave a player like Doyle all alone from a set piece, you deserve everything you get.
also, was it doyle who played long in for his goal? haven't seen the goals as i was at five-a-side, but thought i heard that on the radio on the way home.
doyle's been our best player in the last few internationals by far. no bias there either.
No it was Stephen Hunt that played Long in according to the report on BBC-http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/foot..._1/7908429.stmQuote:
Originally Posted by magnumpi
Yes, a very nice pass from from SHunt setup Long for the winner. I just watched the highlight clip on Reading World to be sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by BarelyLegal