WRONG!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozymandias
Hiddink's wages are being paid by Roman Abramovich and are far in excess of €650k.
Only one man for the job.......Paul Jewell.
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WRONG!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozymandias
Hiddink's wages are being paid by Roman Abramovich and are far in excess of €650k.
Only one man for the job.......Paul Jewell.
ya..he is on for a big bonus if he qualifies them..his basic is small enough........400k is what was reported a while back..i was gobsmacked by it...he will effectively get 0ver 2 million dollars ia year f he qualifies them.......karl bruckner is on something tiny all together
Jewell, O'Leary, Bruce are about the level we can expect. Whowever doesn't get the Bolton job will be in the frame.
Maybe there's someone from left field, a bit like Wim Janssen who came in without much fanfare at Celtic.
I swa Kenny Cunningham on TV last night. I reckon he could be a good manager in due course if he gets a decent club job and would be the type of person I'd like around the team. Intelligent & articulate for a start.
jewell did little at wigan, they are getting on the same now as they were last year. Oleary is crap and i could not handle his excuses, i really dont want him, and he would only be "ready" this time to manage us cos no one else will touch him with a barge pole. NO MORETHICK PEOPLE FOR MANAGER, intelligence goes along with in management. Bruce is decent enough but im still not sure he is the right candidate.
No O'Dreary please. I just can't handle him and don't believe he can inspire this group of players. Make it open and advertise the job. Get the best 3 in for interviews. And treat them with respect and actually listen to what they have to say. No pre-conceived ideas and no appointing someone on hunches.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Ask the Drumaville syndicate to offer EUR 1 million upon qualification.
Better an eL manager than a pensioner who last managed any form of team three years previously and spent (regretfully) more time in hospital than he did out on the training field doing what the FAI paid him to do...Quote:
Originally Posted by mackannovic
Methinks you should go back to gawping at a big screen showing over paid prima donnas getting embarrased by more minnow nations in the charade of a World Cup Qualification Campaign overseen by a bloke who had no coaching experience whatsoever prior to being thrown in at the top level.
I'll certainly sleep soundly tonight knowing the full story surrounding this whole sorry debacle
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Originally Posted by Réiteoir
The whole idea of employing a manager who needs an advisor on how to do his job is lunacy.
i know it wont happen....but just imagine....imagine if Roy took it!!! What it would do for football in Ireland. Oh God ....we can dream....sigh :(
Really? Got a minnow like Tranmere to a major cup final. Kept them challenging a a higher level then they're traditionally at for years on a shoestring till his best players were sold from under him. Had an exceptional record in cup football against Premier League teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by cavan_fan
I don't think he's the answer now and he's certainly not 'world class' but his club record was similar to, and in fact superior to Sanchez's when he got the NI job and look how well he did.
Aldridge was the ideal candidate last time out when the FAI wanted to do it on the cheap, they won't get away with doing it that way now after the Staunton debacle.
I guarentee you EVERY manager in the LOI is better than the current Irish boss.Quote:
Originally Posted by mackannovic
Actually - something struck me just now - going back to your initial point/rant/etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by mackannovic
No - the FAI actually made him the manager of the International side...Quote:
Would you let League One managers have input into the England job???
I don't disagree but I wouldn't want any of them involved in the national team just as I don't want the current setup to be involved any further.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
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Originally Posted by an_ceannaire
Cheque book manager and currently faling despite spending €50m on players. Totally unproven and a ludicrous suggestion at present.
Including Gareth Farrelly... :ball:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
He wasnt a cheque book manager when he took a group of players far inferior to the current Irish team from the bottom of the Champ and won it! The only player he brought in who he consistently stuck with was Ross Wallace and possibly Yorkie. He will consolidate them in the PL this year. Agreed he is not good with the cash, but thats not a problem with IRELAND! The man is THEEE man motivator, you only have to listen to the Mackems players talk about being in awe of him. He took a very poor squad and made them wwaayyy better than the sum of their parts. Birmingham and WBA were far stronger personnell wise.
Imagine what he could do with a talented team of Irish boys who prob grew up idolising him.
I know he wont touch it with a barge pole, but by God, I think he would be the perfect man for the job in every way.
And imagine the profile football would return to in the press and national interest again!
YOu have to be realistic. The FAI can't afford much better. The least they should do is get somebody who's managed at some level.Quote:
Originally Posted by mackannovic
As has been pointed out, if there was a stroger league here we may have more funds available
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Originally Posted by Dodge
We tried the Eircom League route with Kerr and we all saw what happened there. If we stopped wasting money on rinky dink managers we'd have more funds available.
My own take on it is that last time round - Venables should have got the job. See the football England were playing during his reign, culminating in the rout against Holland. Reading Fowlers book about that time, Venables came across as a man he knew both his stuff and how to create that team ethic.
This time round? How about Souness?
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Originally Posted by an_ceannaire
No offence but Keane spent got more backing and had a higher net spend then anyone in the Championship last season bar Derby I think. he did a good job turning them round but a £6m stg spend on players at very high wages is a hell of a lot for that level, Connolly, Edwards and Stokes all cost between 1 and 2m and had he various other signing in and around 500k - 1m.
McCarthy did a better job winning that league with sod all cash much as it sticks in people's craws. keane may well prove to be a good manager in future but he's way to inexperienced and tactically naive right now.
And you're right he wouldn't go near it.
All you can do is laff at the suggestions of people like Bruce, Aldridge, Venables. Particularily the latter two who haven't managed of their own accord in years. Maybe thats why we end up with the likes of Staunton, if we thik the solution is any big name from across the water.
This will probably drag on for a good while.
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Originally Posted by Piltownpossy
This is the same Terry Venables that failed to qualify Australia and managed to ruin Portstmouth, Palace and Leeds since Euro 96? Where by the way England had 1 decent performance, they were blessed to get a draw off the Swiss, had a missed penalty to thanks against the scots and 2 perfectly legit goals for Spain wrongly chalked off in the quarters to thanks for getting through to teh semis on home soil which they lost. Venables is a spoofer of the worst kind and only has a reputation due to his pals in the media and the spin they put on his record.
As for Souness, are you for real????
We just had the same conversation in work and one of the lads a celtic fan suggested Souness, it is intersting to say the least. Oh imagine the reaction of the some Celtic fans :D :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Piltownpossy
just on the lma website and they have a list of available managers.
Such as
George Graham
Gerard Houllier
Paul Jewell
Joe Royle
Dave O'Leary
Peter Reid
Glen Hoddle
Graeme Souness
Gianluca Vialli
Jaysus, I'd take any of them over Staunton What a shambles.
NooooooQuote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
You've just given Delaney an idea. I bet you were the one who suggested Staunton.
I know I may be an old traditionalist but I'd like to think there should be minimum requirements for the job namely,
At least 5 year's experience being manager (not assistant) of a professional club or International Team
At least 1 season's experience managing at the top league in either England/Italy/France or Scotland or qualification or a World Cup
Anyone else need not bother applying and that includes
Aldridge
Bonner
Cunningham
Moran
Stapleton
Houghton
or anyone else from the school of ****ing rinky dink.
As for "we can't afford" it the Gerogian manager is Klaus Topmoller who managed Bayer Lverkusen to the Champions League final. I doubt he's there for the joy of living in Tbilisi and I bet Stan is paid more than him.
My God, are you my alter ego? My thoughts exactly. Except maybe being "blessed" against the Swiss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drumcondra 69er
What's more he managed the English side we "beat" in 95 and they put in a shocking 25 minutes. Lineker bigs him up all the time but, hang on a minute, who made Lineker a millionaire? Oh, yeah, Venables.
Paul Jewell is the one on that list I would like to see get the job.
I am going to suggest Mourinho simply because when he left Chelsea he came out and said that he wanted to try something different for a while before possibly going back to manage in the Premiership again,
He has experience and he has won things and although some might say that he had the money at Chelsea, what he did with Porto was more than impressive
I think he would relish the challenge that would be put in front of him with this sort of job but the only problem is having been paid silly money by Roman Abramovic would he settle for the kind of wages he would get from the FAI
Read my post again...Quote:
Originally Posted by cavan_fan
Jewell, Bruce, Reid!? Give me strength!
Souness is a cancer which has destroyed any football club he's touched. Never, EVER let him near the job.
Theres fcuk all available for the job, no one stands out to me. Do we wait for the fallout from the end of the qualifiers and see who becomes available?
It has to be a big name this time round. A name that will lift fans and players alike. We want the best yet the only suggestions I see are far from the best.
How about a whipround, everyone in the country give €2, that gives us €8million to offer Jose Mourinho :D :D
Interesting this morning bookies have suspended betting on Stan keeping his job and O'Leary is 2/1 favourite.
Roy Hodgson.
He’s qualified Switzerland for a World Cup and a European Championship.
He’s making a very respectable effort to get Finland into next summer’s tournament (in a group with Portugal, Serbia, Belgium and Poland).
He has seasons of managerial experience.
He speaks English
Could he be persuaded to drop the Finns for us?
good shout.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donadoni
Certainly a candidate for the distant future with the provision that he secures the required managerial and coaching experience and actually proves to be a success.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
In the here and now, we need to be targeting someone whose been a proven success in the past. The last thing we want is a gamble on another "great servant for Ireland".
Coaching ability is important here - It's painfully obvious that this collection of players have not been coached into a cohesive international team with an identifiable game plan.
Anybody else see Hiddink interviewed after the England game? - it's a crying shame we didn't secure that chap for the job.
I doubt he walks around any towns other than Dundalk and up here he's just like anybody else, no one passes any remarks really. He's probably away out the Carrick road on the bike again today :D
Yes but he'll only read the first bit. By the way did anyone notice Kenny has the most bizarre bald patch at the front of his hair line. He needs Stephen Ireland's barberQuote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
doubt it, Hodgson wouldnt be bad, No way with Jewell dont rate him at all, bruce is clueless as well, forget o'leary, id get Troussier..even houllier wouldnt be the worst!!
And i read Hiddink was getting 5m a year off The russion fa(abramovich)
I agree, and I was hoping he'd get a look in after Kerr was given the shove and it became clear that we weren't actually getting anyone particularly good. Thing is, Delaney was 'too busy with paperwork' to consider his application, so we got the Walsall corner flag minder instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drumcondra 69er
Why in Gods name does Troussiers name appear everytime we talk about getting a new manager. The man to get is Jewel. Done miracles with two very poor teams, Bradford and Wigan. Kept them up despite very poor squad and has consistenly punched above his weight. He is tactially sound and is a very motivated man. Plus i would think he would be interested. Id still be wary of going down the European manager route, i have visions of Bertie Vogts with Scotland
There's no getting away from it - we need to cough up the dough this time.Quote:
Originally Posted by citizenerased
Maybe Paddy the Plasterer could give us a dig out?
He's pretty good. He's well regarded in Italy too, so he's managed at the highest level.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donadoni