i think it would do wonders for some of our other players as well-imagine andy reid, mcgeady, duff playing in spain or italy-twould be grand, as i say.
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i think it would do wonders for some of our other players as well-imagine andy reid, mcgeady, duff playing in spain or italy-twould be grand, as i say.
http://www.eleven-a-side.com/boysing...p?newsid=25339Quote:
Originally Posted by youngirish
I'm biased towards the SPL but I'm suprised at how biased you are against it. I don't know if you live in Ireland but Stokes is well known over here by anyone with half an interest in football. I don't think Stephen Elliott was getting such reviews at this stage in his career even though he was getting plenty of goals. People do take notice of SPL players whether you like it or not.
Yes I am. You are welcome to think otherwise but I think you are clearly wrong. The kid is 18, he is on the books of Arsenal, whether he is on loan at Falkirk or Preston NE doesn't really matter, it is what he makes of the opportunity. You seem to think the guys at the Gunners are morons or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by youngirish
Reports in the media state that Aiden McGeady will ask for a 3fold increase in his wages to match those in the premiership when his contract comes up for renewal.
I'm a great admirer of Mcgeady but on what basis can he make such demands.
He's hardly what you'd call a regular in the first team.
He's injury prone.
He has yet to prove himself as a quality player in any shape or form.
If he made a move to the premiership he would struggle to get a regular first team place with any of the top ten teams.
This smacks of greed and of being ill advised by cash hungry agents and could end up having a negative affect on his career
Come on. If you think the Irish media is bad you haven't seen anything. The Scottish media will do anything for a story. There wasn't one quote in this "article" in yesterdays Daily Record. The Record is the biggest rag I've ever read tbh.
Anyway, if he wants his wages trebled so what? You do realise he is currently going through contract negotiations which will probably last months. The max he's on atm is about £5-6k. If there's an agent out there that wouldn't be wanting Aiden's wages trebled than he ought to get a new job.
fair point and well put but the point i'm making is that let him prove he's worth that increase first and then it would be justified but at the moment he cant get a starting place in the celtic line up and it's not beyond strachan to let him sit in the reserves regardless of how good he is - just look at pearson who in my opinion is no worse than mcgeady - he's been allowed leave - we'll see how many offers come in for him from premiership clubs
Yeah but it was Celtic that approached him about a contract extension. He hardly demanded this pay rise. :)
He made a big difference v Hibs on Sunday when he came on. He is certainly a useful player to have in the side be it starting or not. What's he worth?...whatever a club is willing to pay.
This guy has credibility. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by greendeiseboy
McGeady was a huge part of Celtic's success in recent months, and it was only since his injury with Ireland that he has seen a more reduced role at Celtic, coming off the bench (to great effect) quite often.
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Originally Posted by irishfan86
I'm not doubting the part he plays as i said i'm a huge admirer of mcgeady but the point i'm making and if you read all my comments fully is the fact that he has yet to prove that he is worth a wage that equals premiership players and by that i'm sure he's not looking to match sheffield utd, watford or wigan players - 5 or 6 good games in the SPL count for very little
In a previous season he impressed against Milan, and afterwards some of his opponents were complimenting his play.Quote:
Originally Posted by greendeiseboy
He's not the finished article just yet, but I'd argue that he would make at least the bench of any Premiership team save Chelsea, and certainly the starting lineup for most of the teams in the second half of the table, and possibly a starter in teams of the lower top 10.
But opinions aren't going to bring this debate far, only time will tell how good he is, and how good he can become.
Hopefully he'll make a few people into believers in this Champions League campaign.
Stop believing what you read in the rags. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by greendeiseboy
greendeiseboy - Here's a perfect example of the Record twisting quotes:
http://foot.ie/showpost.php?p=584429&postcount=1024
Here's a recent thread on McGeady for those that want to see what the fans think:
http://kerrydalestreet.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=40560
A few clips from the Aberdeen match:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGOMDcVY-Tc
In fairness, that video just makes him look like a headless chicken but he played well overall. Nice pass to Miller on 16 seconds.
shock :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
Not really. Maybe for the McGeady of last season but he's a different player this season as you'd know if you watched him. He'll start tomorrow night if you're interested.Quote:
Originally Posted by GavinZac
You're a Cork City fan and judging by your posts you have no interest in Ireland and hate Celtic. If there was a load of Celtic fans on the Eircom league board saying that Roy O'Donovan has no composure and is a terrible finisher I'm sure it would annoy many Cork fans. If you've no interest in Ireland then I don't see why you're posting here. Probably seen McGeady's name on the main foot.ie page and couldn't resist...
How would Celtic fans have seen Roy O'Donovan play?
i'd be more confused than annoyed since he's wanted by bigger clubs than celtic purely because of his current good finishing.Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
i do have an interest in ireland, i attend as many games as a student based in cork can - mostly underage ones. i don't particularly hate celtic, i just despise people who are confused as to what country glasgow is in.
Mwah hah hah hah. Have a word with yourself. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by GavinZac
That's Barcelona, Real Madrid and possibly Manchester United covered then. You may well think Roy O'Donovan's the best thing since, ooh, Kevin Doyle, but I'd be very, very surprised if bigger clubs than Celtic (i.e. the ones mentioned) are showing an interest in your man. Anyone else and your definition is so loose as not to count.
Do you feel the same way about Irish people who are passionate supporters of clubs in Manchester and Liverpool then?Quote:
Originally Posted by GavinZac
:ball: PP
are you seriously suggesting your clubs who boast such world reknown superstars as gary caldwell and neil lennon are bigger than every other club bar barcelona, manure and real madrid?Quote:
Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy
almost, but at least they don't have any silly ideas about them being irish.lets not go down this road, my thinking mcgeady tends to just run about has little to do with celtic. anyway, "passionate" tends to mean "i bought a sticker for my car and go to 2 games a season, that qualifies me to say 'we'".Quote:
Do you feel the same way about Irish people who are passionate supporters of clubs in Manchester and Liverpool then?
How would Cork fans have seen McGeady play? Television I suppose. I'd take a wild guess that I've seen at least as much of O'Donovan as Gavin has of McGeady.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soper
There's a reason I mentioned Roy O'Donovan. He has improved his finishing and goalscoring a lot compared to last season. Put it this way, not many Cork fans would have said he'd end the season as Cork's top scorer. Now, if you're confused that someone would judge O'Donovan on the player he was a year ago then I'm confused that you're judging McGeady on the player he was last season. If you watched him play a few matches for Celtic this season you certainly wouldn't have many bad words to say about him.Quote:
Originally Posted by GavinZac
i'm really amazed as to how you've turned my one word comment about mcgeady, doing some you've described yourself, into some sord of tirade against him. he's a good player, in terms of the irish squad. i reckon if he was at any other club he'd be getting far less attention, á la Shane Long (look, i've mentioned another ex-cork city player!) or paul mcshane til recently.Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
by taking an interest in the international scene? he was in the same team as o'donovan himself a couple of months ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
What else was I meant to take from your one word reply to my post? As for your second point, I don't really understand it. Long has hardly played for Reading. When McGeady was playing in Celtic reserves last season he wasn't getting any "attention".Quote:
Originally Posted by GavinZac
It was a rhetorical question in reply to Soper's question.Quote:
Originally Posted by GavinZac
a flippant joke that that is how he's seen to play a lot of the time?Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
yes he was. he was getting caps and being bandied about as our potential saviour. long has played games and scored goals in the premiership at a higher level than aiden mcgeady.Quote:
Long has hardly played for Reading. When McGeady was playing in Celtic reserves last season he wasn't getting any "attention".
Which is why I brought up the O'Donovan thing. He has been ultra-consistant and by far and away Celtic's player of the year before he got injured during international duty. As I said, it's pretty annoying hearing the views like the one above when he is doing so well this season and has come on leaps and bounds since 12 months ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by GavinZac
As much as I'd love Long to make it big and look forward to him progressing, he hasn't scored a premiership goal yet. I think you'll find (if you actually went and read this forum) that McShane has been getting plenty of praise on here. Nobody on here gets to see McShane week in week out though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=El7G5jU-Ah4
MCGeady video. Class.
Long hasn't scored in the Premiership yet. He got one in the Carling Cup. He's started 2 games and does a few substitute cameos. Lita now ahead of him in the pecking order. Caps? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by GavinZac
Anyone see the argy bargy between McGeady and Lennon after the match yesterday? Words exchanged and then Lennon shoves McGeady before Sno intervened.
Stupid of Lennon I felt and he should have more cop on than that. Whatever was said he should have sorted it out in the dressing room and tore strips off him if it was required. A player with his experiance should know better than to carry on like that and as captain of Celtic he has a responsibility to be disciplined and to behave in the correct manner.
Yip. Aiden is rightly raging about!Quote:
Originally Posted by drinkfeckarse
Lennon is a chancer who has outstayed his welcome at Celtic.
Lennon's temper got the better of him. He went mad after losing a goal in the last minute and took it out on McGeady for not tracking back and helping Wilson. McGeady called him a couple of names and Lennon flipped. Can you imagine Silvestre slagging Roy Keane off when he's getting a rollicking? :D Lennon can't control himself when he gets that angry and I'm sure he regretted it 10 seconds later. I'm also sure we've all been in a situation where you do something like throw your remote control against the wall and you're picking up the pieces 10 seconds later. Mulitply your anger by 100 to see how Lenny feels when he's angry. :D Let him go to anger management after he retires. ;)
Ironically it was the 2 best players on the pitch yesterday imo.
Lennon was bang out of order and just doesn't have the respect of his teammates.Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
This is the guy who was up trying to nick a cheap goal last week against Aberdeen in the 90th minute when the score was 1-0 complaining that others aren't tracking back when we're 2-0 up and coasting (BTW only reason McGeady was brought into was cause Lennon needed someone else to blame to hide his own deficiencies at protecting his defence).
Lennon has lost his allies in the dressing room (Sutton, Hartson, McNamara etc) and is now losing repsect week on week. Crying off with a fake injury days before the team were due to go to Poland for a hard slog was a kick in the teeth to many in the dressing room.
His onfield AND off-field behaviour is not fitting of a Celtic captain.
I wouldn't go that far. Lennon has been good this season (bar Europe where his agility or lack of is exposed!) and is an important member of the team. Deserves another years extension in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by McGeady10
Of course it was bang out of order but he didn't choose to push McGeady. Surely everyone has lost their temper in their lifetime?Quote:
Originally Posted by McGeady10
Why did he not lose his temper at Boruc seconds earlier? The guys a bully and thought Aiden was the easy target and found out that he actually wasn't. Sooner he's shown the door at Celtic Park the better. A terrible influence and an embarssment to the club with his off field behaviour and a hinderance with his on field performances.Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
Don't be silly. It was obvious he lost his temper. He didn't choose just to lose him temper at McGeady. If he can't control his temper there's nothing he can do. If he didn't lose his temper it's another story but I thought he clearly did.Quote:
Originally Posted by McGeady10
Its McGeadys fault anyway. He would cause most people to lose their temper.Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
He was man of the match yesterday so continuing his superb form this season.
Big shot Lennon certainly not in the mood for apologising. Don't be surprised to see Aiden dropped on Sunday. Can't say much more :(