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Corrected that there for you ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by DCSIL
Shels settled for the 2-1 from early out and tbf weren’t really troubled,they’ll be happy enough with the win but I suppose it’ll only be known after next week weather it’s a a good result….
local derby that? Shels (Drumcondra) v Joeys (Fairview)
How can Higgins stay on, they are in a title race as much on squad ability as how they are coached and youd have no confidence of them not blowing a gift wrapped league again. Results can go against you in Europe and it may be harsh but it would be the excuse an owner needed to change management. If that sme Derry squad were managed by SK in Europe and many were, would we be looking at the same outcome? I dont think so myself!
Any thinking on LoI fans being deluded on standards just have to look t our ranking relative to teams we are playing, if they are ranked below then they are bad results, if above then it is par for the course and didnt play above our level. We will be dropping to our level over a few years anyway if early round points continue not to be taken.
Joey 2 - Joeys 1Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Galway Utd will raise the coefficient next year
Bert Kassies has already pushed the button to update the aul coefficients...
We ended last year in 35th, and started this year 33rd (because 2019/20 was a poor year - Cork lost to Niederkorn, Dundalk beat Riga on penalties but were easily beaten by Slovan and Qarabag, Pat's lost to Norrkoping and Rovers had Bradley's only good European result in beating Brann, but they lost to Apollon after extra time then).
We're still 33rd at present - though Kosovo in 32nd have extended the gap out to 0.541 and to be honest I don't see us increasing any this year. This was the year the FAI were targetting the LoI to be 30th in Europe, but with results like this week's, we'll be falling a few places by the end of the summer.
0.375 is our score so far - bettered by eight leagues below us. Still too early to read too much into that though. The second legs will tell more - we'll see if we even get a second round, and the Champions League teams are important as they get multiple rounds (and a much bigger chance at group stage games).
Looking only at this year and last year, we're 41st in the rankings - feels like we should be much worse than that to be honest, but again this year has only just begun.
Belarus are second last in the rankings, amazingly - it's only nine years since BATE Borisov got five points in a Champions League group including Roma, Barcelona and Leverkusen. Today's results see Gibraltar jump ahead of them.
2 wins and a draw or 1 win and 2 draws is not beyond the realms of possibility next week tbf, however many teams we get through is another question :DQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
And even if they get through, how will Derry do against Copenhagen having lost 2-0 in Gibraltar!
There's still Pat's there too of course; no idea how they'll do.
Hypothetically if every country got the same score as last year - and we're already going to be doing well to get that I think - we'd drop to 37th. I'll put that out as an early random prediction as to where we'll end up.
One other result of note tonight was Borac Banja Luka getting a 96th minute winner at home against Egnatia of Albania - losers play the losers of Vikingur/Rovers. The winners play Jagellonia of Poland.
Despite Shelbourne's win - that was two damned poor results against the opposition - these teams are equivalent to tier 8/9 of the English pyramid (that is where some of the better players have played).
Oh yeah, I don't expect anyone to get through Round two if they make it except for giving Pat's a shot v Vaduz, aside from Rovers of course, they could be bombed out by round 3 or make the groups, so much comes down to next week and of course the draws once they drop down.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
I do think any flavour of Shels win is good, first time back in Europe in forever, and against what I assumed would be by far the better of the two Gibraltar clubs. Absolutely no idea what went on with Derry, I decided to save my tenners this week :D I definitely wouldn't count them out of a home win, couldn't say if they could do enough to bring it to ET thou, maybe Bruno's have improved a lot now that they've been in Europe a few years in a row.
Given what happened last year, I also think the Rovers result should be considered positive conditionally, I think they'll do it at home, but I know understandably many others are not so confident.
What is the potential difference in prize money for Rovers next week between winning and losing if anybody has an idea?
With our form this season I’d be happy to travel being one goal down in the tie. Hopefully we can be competitive but I don’t expect much.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
That was an infuriating game against a horrible team full of gowls.
Absolutely hateful bunch. The antics with the "stolen" throw-in from a fake injury in the second half nearly sent the whole of the stadium into the river.
We were much the better side and Coote and Wood made such a difference late on.
Gannon was completely off the boil for whatever reason and hopefully he'll be back to his usual self next week.
Anyway, we won. That's all we can ask for right now.
Heat - 35C,Quote:
Originally Posted by ger121
the Macedonians were dreadful, but more heat tolerant.
I also watched Linfield v Stjarnan (perhaps I have flagellation tendencies) Linfield were dreadful, the Rory Gallagher song came to mind, "Brute Force and Ignorance". No consolation considering the travails in the LOI, but the Nordie league is stone age.
Difference of €790,000Quote:
Originally Posted by joey B
Id tend to agree, I’d take a 1 goal defeat in the first leg to keep the tie alive when travelling over. Having said that, with 1 away win all year it’s an even more unlikely task to overcomeQuote:
Originally Posted by D24Saint
Attendance: 3655 Seating in Richmond Road and Riverside stands only.
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Thanks to extratime.com for helping and explaining my point to you ":rolleyes:"Quote:
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Good to see you posting Bonnie - hope you are well!Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
Do you have a breakdown of that -Quote:
Originally Posted by Buller
He lives!Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
Well - let's see how the head is this morning before making any conclusions... :p
All's well indeed! Good to see some of ye lot are still about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid
Just about.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
The head is sore alright. But that's more to do with age. Had 4 pints and grub in The Strand House before the match and that was my lot for the evening and by God I feel like I've been out on the batter for a week!Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Good to know some things never change. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
Ahh here - Tier 8 or 9 of the English pyramid is seriously sh!!te uber-regional leagues. Fat old blokes playing with their knees strapped up etc. They're really not as low as that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolly Red Giant
I have seen multiple people around the web saying Derry lost to amateurs, I don't think Bruno's are particularly good by any means, but people love to exaggerate for effect.
Their sporting director said they tried to sign Pat Hoban, but he was too expensive, so they're definitely throwing some degree of cash about, but I still reckon Drogheda would be able to give them a rattle in all honestly, I have absolutely no idea what happened to Derry.
Its also just wildly inaccurate.Quote:
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What's worse is I corrected the spelling and somehow made it a new word :DQuote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Paddy Power have the Icelandics as strong favs tonight.
Based on last week I can't disagree. Hope springs eternal though
Careful, it's the hope that kills yaQuote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Are Derry and Shels getting a bigger slice of profits from pivoting their matches to a different streaming partner for Europe, or why aren't they using LOItv?
Is the rovers game included in the LOITV season pass? I know European games aren’t usually but cup games aren’t usually either as far as I know and I just saw today that they’re included in the season pass this year
Nah it cost a tenner,real shame Virgin didnt pick the game up,think it should be a worthwhile game to put it on the tele but obviously those in charge thought otherwise....Quote:
Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract
So the first round madness begins again. Ballkani of Kosovo, who reached the Conference League groups the last two years, have been taken to extra time by Santa Coloma of Andorra, who scored in the last minute to win 1-0 in Kosovo. Ballkani are down to ten men too
And Santa Coloma go through on penalties!
They had lost every one of their 17 European ties before this. So even to draw 0-0 - as they had been doing until injury time - would have been historic. Now their first ever European win has them one match win away from being the first Andorran side to reach the groups
That's unlikely to be their next tie against Midtjylland though...
That is crazy against a side who not only made it to the groups last year but had a good chance of getting out of that group.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Less than 48 hours to kick-off and still no streaming confirmed for the Shels matchQuote:
Originally Posted by Acornvilla
Shels put out a message on X yesterday that they are still awaiting confirmation of streaming details as it is St. Joseph's as the home club who are responsible for control of the broadcast, but Shels communication over this has been conflicting as they originally stated on July 2nd in an email to season ticket holders that the away match would be available on LOI TV on a PPV basis
That's a strange one, most people here think the pendulum has slightly swung Rovers' way.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Vikingur didn't impress many here that much but they do have one of their best players returning for this game, easy to spot in midfield, bald-pated.
How many are SRFC expecting in for tonight, 4/5,000?