They're guaranteed a minimum of £17.4M from the CLQuote:
Originally Posted by Rayzor
Printable View
They're guaranteed a minimum of £17.4M from the CLQuote:
Originally Posted by Rayzor
Quote:
Originally Posted by JR89
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...eadmore-target
Looks like they're about to spend a chunk of that on a left footed centre-back to replace Scales, Auston Trusty.
Scales not giving up his starting place without a fight anyway, did well today in the Glasgow derby.
Can't Trusty play left back too? And he cost 6m. Would Scales cost that too?
Sheffield utd were pretty poor at the backQuote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
And neither should he be expected to be ousted from the team easily; he's generally done very well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
If Scales were a Japanese or Israeli international, you suspect he would be held in far greater esteem by the Celtic support, who generally come across as having unfounded and grandiose ideas about their club's standing in the game, almost to the point of outright delusion, as well as being rather unpleasant all round.
Rodgers says pretty much the same here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football...s/c4glxgllxr7oQuote:
Originally Posted by Trequartista20
Did very well yesterday.
Bullet header
Played well. I thought he was good start of last season too. Great for him and Idah to score on the stage you want to be playing. A few of the anti Celtic crowd here probably with mixed feelings this morning. If only they'd managed Lee O Connor and Jonathan Afolabi as well where would ROI be now??
So players at Celtic do well and it's a good place for them to be, but players at Celtic do badly and it's Celtic's fault?
I think there's a bit of bias there to be honest.
Great to see Scales score though (and indeed Idah, although the link with UCD playing in Europe on the same night meant Scales' goal meant more at the Bowl). Slovan are going to set all sorts of CL records given they have Man City, Bayern (who just won 9-2), Atletico, Stuttgart, AC Milan and Girona to come.
Exactly. It's biased both ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
There's lots of factors going in to whether a player makes it or not. Talent and dedication being foremost.
Celtic can be a great platform for many players as its a quicker route to medals and European football than you'll get nearly anywhere else.
But if you don't make it you don't make and Celtic move on and sign another. Same as at any club in the business of winning really.
Fair enough. I'll agree with that though it's not how I read your post!
delighted for scales (and UCD!) -
Very good. My team won the Superleague in 1987, best thing I achieved in UCD.
I think there's a difference in signing for a Celtic as a senior player compared to signing as a youth. There's no issue going there once you're getting first team games, in fact as last night showed it can be a great club to be at. The issue is their conversion of youth players to senior players. Who was the last Irish player Celtic signed as a teenager who went on to have a high level career? I can't think of many (any?) since Liam Miller, and he broke through there over 20 years ago.
It's not just Irish players either, they're just not good at bringing young players through their youth system and in to the first team, and getting them to a standard where they can establish themselves at that level. But give them a player where that work has been done elsewhere, and they can provide a platform for them to showcase their abilities and move on to another level in time.
I think there's just a bit of nuance. It's a good place to sign at 23. It's a terrible place to sign at 16 or 17 or 18. Obviously depends a bit of the level of the individual player, like for Arnie Engels, who is a hugely promising footballer, he's ready to make a huge impact at 21 - but you want to sign there at a time when you're ready to be a first team regular - because as a kid, they'll keep signing good lads in that 22/23 range to sign.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
(wrote this before Eirambler's response - basically the saying the same thing)
Moving to Celtic as a youngster with first team potential is high risk, high reward decision. Not one i would recommend to any promising youngster myself.
Part of team getting destroyed this evening,men against boys just…
Just watched all the goals at halftime, can't fault Scales for any of them!
It’s Brendan Rogers ego that’s at fault,ridiculous setup that’s been dismantled…..Quote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
gets turned inside out by Guirassy for the 6thQuote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
https://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...416983937.html
He gets a mention for that goal here too.
Rough night for Celtic.Quote:
Guirassy turned Liam Scales one way and another before stabbing home the sixth in the 66th minute.
Good performance from him this evening in Bergamo,playing in a side seemingly incapable of stopping crosses coming in a clean sheet was a decent outcome,they missed plenty of chances of course but he in particular deserved a bit of luck I think….
Won MOTM. Fair play to LiamQuote:
Originally Posted by joey B
Starts on the bench tonight against RB Leipzig; Trusty plays instead.
Was dropped for the last league game against Dundee; came on for the last quarter of an hour. Second half sub against Aberdeen at the weekend in the League Cup too
Hardly injured if he's coming off the bench - but seems a bit harsh to go from MotM one Champions League night to the bench the next?
Would be a concern for sure,Carter Vickers seems to be the first choice anyway and it feels like they’re trying to get a partnership with Trusty started,a shame for Scales if it turns out like that…
They could have at least done the right thing and kept playing him until January before selling him to someone panicking
Came on as a sub again for the last 15 minutes - slightly unusual for a centre-back to be coming off the bench so often, so I guess Rodgers is trying to keep him still in the first-team picture.
It's enough football and recent good form that I'd definitely still have him start the two Ireland games anyway, he'd hopefully still be pretty sharp and fresh, that game time will do him a lot of good coming up to Christmas period then where Celtic will surely have to rotate some matches being involved in everything still.
Probably being rested. He's only come on as a sub in the last three games. Up to that, he'd played 90 minutes in every game this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Only Schmeichel and Hatate have played more games than him this season.
Being rested for what, the behemoth that is Kilmarnock this weekend? Surely in a vital home CL clash against German opposition, Rodgers thoughts were laid bare on what he considers his best available team. Sadly - and without much ado from non-Irish bhoys - Scales and Idah aren't in it. In fact, the latter must be damn frustrated with his increasingly bit-part role.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Agreed - you don't rest players for RB Leipzig at home (key to their progression at this stage) in order to have a fit team against Killie.
There may be some other reason, but I don't think "Probably being rested" makes sense.
More likely to be carrying a knock and being used spareingly i would have thought.
Alternativly maybe Rodgers has made a move away from him , i dont watch enough Celtic games to know how he has been playing
He's been playing fine but Trusty was brought in to play and Scales is third pick for the two centre back positions. Obviously a team needs more than two CBs and Scales will continue to have an important role to play as a backup centre back as Celtic will play in the region of 60 games across all competitions this season. But he's certainly not being rested against Leipzig so that he can be kept fresh for Kilmarnock or whoever.
Back in the team today, though Carter-Vickers isn't in the squad (presumably injured) so that's not necessarily a sign of where he is in the order.
A flick through the Celtic forums reckoned he was unlucky to be dropped, but Trusty is just better. Make what you will of that obviously
Idah also starts but has been quiet enough it seems as Celtic lead 1-0 at halftime
He was about 6 inches away from scoring the opening goal, but it was his presence that caused the goal anyway as it meant the keeper couldn't dive for the ball in in case Idah got a touch.