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Originally Posted by placid casual
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Originally Posted by placid casual
May I with equal politeness suggest you familiarise yourself with the forum rules on swearing?
I wasn't aware that constituted swearing Sincere apologies for my profanity if anyone of a weak disposition was somehow offended by my obvious courseness.
Whatever your thoughts on Perth he generally backs things up with his reasoning. He has said that he feels that a coach out of work should be interested in the Dundalk job, the squad is there to still challenge for silverware, he still has contact with club owners and feels a conversation could be had about the possibility of returning while acknowledging that the club may not be interested in that chat. Its pragmatic imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
You know that he couldnt get a job elsewhere but then you seem to question that knowledge?
Not surprised at any football coach in Ireland trying to maneuver themselves into the running for a full-time job and wouldn't begrudge them for it. Prospects here are absolutely dismal for anyone trying to make a living as a manager. Listening to Buffalo Bill playing armchair quarterback would be a small price to pay for a job with that sort of budget available to you.
Dundalk, on the other hand, would be absolutely off their nut to consider taking Perth back months after sacking him.
i'd say Dundalk were just under UEFA's microscope from the Europa League and the shadow coaching fine, so they were following up to make sure the FAI got it straight. If it had been Pats in that situation I'd say it would have been the same, but as far as I remember they've always been clear that Mathews is the manager and O'Donnell the head coach (even though it's obviously not how it is in reality).Quote:
Originally Posted by mcgonigle
Yeah, there's a handful of professional coaching jobs in the league and any coach would be mad to rule themselves out from one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
The real question is why journalists chose to ignore the managerial qualification issues that have been going on for years, and not just at Dundalk.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcgonigle
I think they've all been covered extensively when they've arisen. It was well-publicised Rovers had to bring in Sami Ristila when Bradley's 60 days expired, before he got on the Pro license course. Gill was brought in because Perth didn't have a PL, same with Giovagnoli when Gill left and Keegan was left over. And it's been widely stated about Alan Mathews being the PL holder at Pats.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Parker
How many are there now? O'Donnell, Sheedy, Higgins, ?. 30% of managers not qualified!
Personally I think coaches educating themselves is a positive thing but I don't think the Pro License should be mandatory to get the job.
Maybe have a situation where grants are given to clubs based on the number of qualified coaches they have throughout the whole club. The more they have, the more they would receive.
Sure wasn't the former CEO exaggerating his own professional qualifications too!
Has the David Healy to Dundalk rumour got any mileage in it?
Doubt it. Leave comfort for that? Chris Shields going to play for him has more legs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Finlay Harp
https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/sport/...-only-20534526
Healt certainly not denying it anyway. You would have to assume there is some substance to it.
FWIW, surely it would be a disastrous move for both parites.
Why so?Quote:
Originally Posted by DCWA
Can’t see Healy succeeding in Dundalk. Or arguably anywhere in Ireland away from Linfield.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
From his perspective he is leaving a gift of a job to join the circus.
It may be that Magilton would like there to be something in it, but it's Healy's thoughts which count.Quote:
Originally Posted by DCWA
And seeing as LFC say they're currently putting together a new 3 year contract offer, I wonder whether DH isn't using "interest" from DFC as a negotiating ploy?
Maybe Magilton is very persuasive, but I still can't see why DH would leave LFC for Dundalk.Quote:
Originally Posted by DCWA
He's very secure where he is, they're stable and with big plans for the future. Meaning that to tempt him away he'd surely want something that offers him a clear step-up from what he has?
And while the DFC of 2 or 3 seasons ago would have fitted that bill, they've since regressed, with no guarantee they'll get back to that level very quickly, even if the new manager does well personally.
But still, if it went some way to "screwing the Bloos", I'd love to see it happen! :cool:
I too heard of that DH rumour but I ave a feeling VP will go back to Dundalk again. Why I dont know but I saw him on the touchline at Bishopsgate after the final whistle. I seen him at Sligo game too.
Really? Was he doing a media gig or something? I can't see any other valid reason for him to be at the games under current rules.
Yeah wondering was he scoutin for someone I wonder?Quote:
Originally Posted by Longfordian
Would put my house on Healy not going to Dundalk.
Would be on that and i'd put my home on it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Parker
Dundalk need a good LOI manager and Healy is not our man! But i'd take Pat Fenlon away from them(Linfield). Unpopular at Dundalk but could turn out to be just what we need.
Fenlon does not want to return to management and would not put up with the crap at Dundalk. So who are the good LOI managers that are available? I can't think of anyQuote:
Originally Posted by ToberonaTornado
I hear you McGonigle. I'm hoping that the long wait for an announcement from the club is a good sign. Seen Gary Rogers had a poll up on Twitter with Duff and Doolin on it. Few others saying Dave Rogers and ..........with Dave 2ic.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcgonigle
EDIT - dont want Duff or Doolin near the gaff tbh.
Agree, Duff has no experience so unless the owners and fans are willing to give him plenty of time it won't work. Doolin has proven he can work with the cream of the league and manage egos while spending big but that was a long time ago, there's a reason he hasn't worked in the league since.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToberonaTornado
Rogers, no thanks, so who's left?
The flip side is that anyone of the names mentioned might turn out to be a good fit. We just have to hope those in charge know the type of person required. Another worry...
A few players went to Belfast to check out the new manager it seems!
Does a new manager need the players blessing, are they part of the recruitment process? Tail wagging the dog stuff and never works. Not sure there is a better way of undermining a new manager before a ball is kicked than players having a big say in who a club appoints. Clubs appoint someone the players need, not the person the players want or next thing they'll be locking 'The Gaffer' out of changing rooms at half times or picking teams....Quote:
Originally Posted by joey B
Link?Quote:
Originally Posted by joey B
If true, as Nesta says, that's just bizarre!
Meanwhile, I wonder did Dundalk ever consider Matthew Tipton (played a few games for them a decade ago)?
He did ok in his first management job at Warrenpoint (promotion), causing Portadown to appoint him on a 2 1/2 year, p-t contract.
After another promotion for the Ports, they must be very happy with him, since they've just given him a new 5 year contract on a f-t basis:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57047492
Oran Kearney's another IL manager who looks to have something about him.
Have heard suggestions of Perth to Waterford. That'd be jumping from the frying pan into the raging inferno of basket case clubs for him, but doesn't look like he's getting any other offers.
A few Dundalk players went on the **** in Belfast at the weekend that seemed to irk some fans on twitter, whether they were checking out a new manager is unconfirmed!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen
Idiotic! They look to be oblivious to the pictures being taken so wonder who the eagle eyed person was that recognised them?Quote:
Originally Posted by joey B
There's always someone with a camera! Not very clever from them leaving aside how bad their form is just the fact I dont think they were even allowed to travel there by law at the time......Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
its the intercounty travel bit that has them in trouble, if there was a picture of DFC players having a few takeaway pints outside a pub in Dundalk for a teambuilding event no one could say boo to them
Unlikely that anyone will say boo to them for their Belfast escapade either.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Belfast has limited enough charms but I am struggling to understand wtf they were thinking socialising around Shaftsbury Square for their well merited break from on field footballing achievement, if they were in Laverys there really is no hope for that team!!
An FAI spokesperson confirmed to BBC Sport NI that the organisation is aware of the matter.
"We are currently reviewing it with assistance from Dundalk Football Club. We have no further comment to make at this stage," the spokesperson said.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57076969
NOR has an excellent piece on this Dundalk/Waterford fiasco in todays irish sun. Superb article. I heard mumourings but I didnt fully understand the whole fiasco with Dundalk players. Wonder did JM encourage this as I imagine hes looking for a way out of whole affair I imagine!
I'm surprised Big Jim wasn't up there with them - to claim asylum!Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
Though whether that be "mental" or "political" I'm not sure.
Maybe both? :cool:
Thought there was another thread on all things Dundalk - but it seems the Magilton appointment mayn't be set in stone as yet, and the Perth rumours aren't going away.
Also adds a note on budget cuts -
Will be interesting to see who leaves - if it was players signed over the pre-season, then that fairly undermines the scouting network.Quote:
Originally Posted by RTÉ
Scouting network? I hope that was tongue in cheek PS. if it undermines agent(s) offering overpriced players to Bill that could be a good thing!Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Well I was going to put it in inverted commas but there's a couple of Dundalk fans on here who'd probably have leapt on me for that :)