Never understood that line of thought tbh. There's nothing that special about the game here that pre-match scouting won't teach you fairly quicklyQuote:
Originally Posted by oriel
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Never understood that line of thought tbh. There's nothing that special about the game here that pre-match scouting won't teach you fairly quicklyQuote:
Originally Posted by oriel
There is a feeQuote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Dylan Connolly is under contract to the end of 2019.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
A fee will have to be paid and local journos suggesting DFC will recoup most of the 35k they paid for him from Bray if the transfer to AFC Wimbledon goes ahead.
Of course there has been no confirmation of anything at this point other than VP saying a move was likely.Quote:
Originally Posted by dundalkfc10
All the indications are that a fee would be involved if a cross channel move is completed.
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Originally Posted by sbgawa
There's no questioning Kenny’s ability, at this level anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
What exactly makes him that good is something I find interesting. Is it the tactical side the man management, the motivation, the training etc etc. Or a combination of the above.
If the team seems to struggle in a specific area under a new manager, especially one who saw kenny working, it could give an insight into what made Kenny that good.
It’s a long time ago now but from everything I ever heard about him with us it was his man management and motivation that were his biggest assets. He was obviously no slouch tactically but he made the players feel ten feet tall and earned devotion from the fans through his engagement with them. He also had a keen eye for a player.
also from his time with us hes the only longford town manager that I can remember opening up a new pub in town! noone else has done this since then! he made such a huge effort to get footfall through the gates and he succeeded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Longfordian
Stephen Kenny was very involved in community activities in Dundalk. From opening shops, exhibitions to being an ambassador for local charities. I dont know how he ever managed to shopping or any personal errands done as anybody who stopped to talk to him he politely stopped to chat and have pics taken. Very affable guy who knew the importance of creating a connection with the local community. He often used public events to speak about issues not related to football as he did and the sports writer awards. He also instructed his players to do the same in terms as acting as ambassadors for the club and politely deal with the pesky kids and supporters that were all wanted selfies and programmes signed. If he continues in that way with the FAI job(s) then they will be all the better for it!!
More additions to the backgound management teams at Dundalk. Awaiting club confirmation. Change also expected at CEO level with Mal Brannigan due to be replaced
https://www.dundalkdemocrat.ie/news/...vfO-1w.twitterQuote:
Former Sky Sports reporter to join Dundalk FC as club's 'head of recruitment'
Former Sky Sports reporter Andy Burton is believed to have joined Dundalk FC as the club's new 'head of recruitment'.
The Englishman has the title of 'Senior Recruitment Consultant' at English Premier League side AFC Bournemouth - who Dundalk owners Peak6 have a stake in - which sees him perform a similar role.
It is all part of a managerial reshuffle at Oriel Park in the aftermath of Stephen Kenny's departure. Earlier this week, Vinny Perth was announced as the new head coach, with Rúaidhrí Higgins (assistant coach) and John Gill (first-team coach) flanking him.
However, it has been agreed that Burton - who has vast experience in scouting and player-data research - will aid Perth and co. with transfers and general player incomings.
Club chairman Mike Treacy has spoken widely about this type of network in the past, with Marco Tagbajumi, Krisztián Adorján (loan) and Karolis Chvedukas purchased as a result.
Burton, who joined the Cherries in June 2016, after 12 years at Sky, is reported to have visited Dundalk before Christmas for discussions, but is expected to remain based across the water.
On the pitch, the Lilywhites will begin pre-season training on Saturday, with a pre-season trip to Spain planned for the end of the month.
Not the case according to Tony O'Donoghue, although local media now saying he will still play a very small role at Dundalk while remaining UK based. As for Brannigan, heard he was being shipped out last week after the Fyffes mess upQuote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
Any idea how much Dundalk paid?Quote:
Originally Posted by dundalkfc10
Mal Brannigan's departure confirmedQuote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
https://www.dundalkfc.com/chief-exec...rt-dundalk-fc/
Did Brannigan actually do anything at Dundalk apart from p!ss off sponsors?
Branigan Obviously tried to jack up the fee for Fyffes and then quickly realized that shirt sponsorship in the LOI is not high up the Marketing priorities in most companies, certainly not as high as sponsoring the local County GAA team :( anyone with a current sponsor should be cuddling them regularly :)
The first approach made Bray wanted 100k. The next transfer window things must have been starting to slip financially so the generally quoted undisclosed fee was 35k. We've made a little on that, he was on good money due to the 2 year contract and he wont be driving us all nuts falling over looking for frees rather than actually trying to play football. He would be a top sprinter or hurdler but footballer? I thought he'd improve with full time coaching but there were marginal improvements.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah
If there was a flaw in Kenny's team selection at times is that he stuck with players that a fee was payed for like Connolly no matter what other options were there. It is a coincidence that he was first to leave after Kenny left but you get the impression that once Kelly signed Perth wasnt to bothered that Connolly was gone smartly. Kilduff was another that Kenny really stuck with after paying a fee, he scored some important goals no doubt, great pro and nice chap but missed sitters (he should have scored against Rosenborg imo in extra time to put us ahead again in the tie but hit the bar when it looked easier to keep the ball down and then there was a sitter in Tel Aviv to level the game and that point could have been crucial to put us in to the last 32) AZ at 'home' he started but we only got in to that game properly when McMillan was brought on for Kilduff. Maguire was warming bench at the time too and got little to no game time and we now know what he was capable of. My opinion anyway.
Even if he did its hardly a reason for him to be moved on! There is more to it than trying to play hardball with Fyffes.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
I think your being a little hard on him his confidence looked shot when i saw him play for DFC compared to when he played for Bray and he might get it back as part of the move,
but i agree with you he's not a loss considering you've replaced him with Kelly who is brim full of beans
Few managers at other clubs have been regular presences at the opening of pubs, mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
I was referring to the guy from Sky sportsQuote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
As a piece of conjecture is it likely or within the rule books for A.F.C. Bournemouth to loan out players to Dundalk? Could for instance a fringe first team player transfer to Oriel just in time to coincide with Dundalk’s European run? This player, depending on Dundalk’s progress of course, having done well then returns to the Cherries and due to the shop window that is European football increases his value and is then sold on by his parent club and Peak6.
Reading between the lines of what Vinny Perth said of recent I believe this or a similar scheme is in the works hence the need to create a new layer above the manager dealing with potential transfers. The layer above being a way to insulate both clubs and bend the rules to the liking of Peak6.
If this is suggesting loan deals, then the same current rules would apply, no short term deal would be permitted by the FAI and only players arriving in the transfer window could move to an Irish club, similar to say what Waterford have been doing recently.
This would mean a player having to be properly registered for a period from start of our season up to end of 30th June I think, or from after this period to the end of our season.
Technically a player in this instance could transfer from Bournemouth to Dundalk in January, but they would need to stay until 30 June, or until end of the season, if it was the latter, they would probably be ruled out of playing in UK until 1st Jan of the following year.
I get what you are saying Oriel however, the player out on loan would still be owned by Bournemouth and they could sell that player to a foreign club without the player ever having to rejoin Bournemouth. Is this correct?
I don't know how the wages aspect of this would work but it would be interesting to investigate if the two 'Red Bull' teams ever worked a deal like this.
They probably could sell on the player as he would still be on loan, but I`d imagine any moving over would still have to stick to the loan periods of full season, or to 1st July or whatever it is, and / or end season if they arrived in the summer.
Cant imagine any issue if they were to be sold during their loan period as they would still be a Bournemouth player in this instance.
Dundalks athletic therapist has left the club. Think the decision was made a while ago just announced now so you'd think a replacement is lined up
David Murphy, who has worked at Reading and Colchester, has been brought in by Dundalk to work alongside Danny Miller in the physio department following Sam Rice's departure.Quote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
Typical Vinny Perth style of saying it as he sees it
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Dundalk boss Vinny Perth 'disappointed' that he wasn't part of Stephen Kenny's Ireland plans
https://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...-37940407.html
Off The Ball
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dG7...ature=youtu.be
I happened to catch a few minutes of the interview on offtheball, and one word summed the interview up for me.
Delusional.
I've no doubt that Dundalk will win the league, as they have bought their success with a number of top quality players, but Perth will not be the decisive factor, in my opinion.
If anything it will be success despite him.
Thats just my honest opinion, I'm not trying to wind up anyone or wum(?)
In the event Dundalk don't win the League, Perth will, without doubt, get a huge amount of blame (undoing all Sk's good work etc. etc.) so its a bit much to deny him any credit if they do win it. I don't believe any success is solely down to him, far from it, but to suggest they would win it despite him is ludicrous.Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
I can only imagine the reaction of some on here if someone (hello Ez :D) suggested any shams success was despite Bradser's 'inspired' coaching not because of it.As for 'buying success' (Hello Mr kettle....)
I can only imagine the reaction of one on here if Bradley made the sort of comments that Perth gave in that interview..... I’d being curious as to why Gill was the spokesperson wheeled out on Soccer Republic ..... now I understandQuote:
Originally Posted by marinobohs
Perth's really does love himself :)
"What Stephen Kenny brought to me helped me to be a brilliant coach".
"When there was talk of Stephen getting the Ireland Managers job, i dreamed of being the next " LOL from a guy not even qualified to be the Manager of Dundalk without Gill stepping in.
If Stephen Kenny decided he didn't want VP on his backroom team i don't think he shared VP's opinion of himself, the excuse about the cost of buying him out of his contract is a fig leaf, buttons by FAI standards and given the pressure they were under at the time to get Kenny to accept the role they would have paid it if asked.
Considering how long Peak 6 spent looking for options i think they agreed with Kenny
What do you imagine it would be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calcio Jack
Quote the main points.
I'll just make one last comment on this discussion about perth.
He said words to the effect of "without me Stephen Kenny would not have been successful".
Fair balls to the guy for having confidence in himself and all , but what he knows about club management you could fit on a seagull's shirt button.
I'll reiterate, so the dundalk kacks get all in a tangle, dundalk have a great squad and are primed for success, but this guys bull$hit needs to be called out for what it is
That's.. that's quite a read. Always good to see a guy being completely honest, even if he would have been better advised to keep a lot of that to himself.
The FAI wouldn’t even pay Dundalk what was due for Kenny breaking his contract so it’s seens very plausible to me that they wouldn’t pay for his assistant. Considering all Kenny’s coaches in the u21s were either employed by the FAI already or not coaching then it’s seems a valid point.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
OMG! ... Who does this guy think he is?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
Vinny Perth: Definitely not bitter.
Certainly, emm, 'confident' in his own ability :D for someone taking on such a mammoth task (Dundalk FC) it probably would have been smarter to keep his powder dry until he had achieved something in his own right. Deserved the chance to take over at Dundalk in my opinion, but way too early to have any sort of claim on anything else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
Need to see if he can live up to those type of claims.
That's a very far fetched hypothetical question.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinobohs
Vinny Perth saying he will be the decisive factor in Dundalk winning the league this season!Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
Is that really what you took from the few minutes you heard?
It's not even decent summing on your part
* wumming.