Could be, could be Stephen Ireland, or Jack Grealish, or AN Other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingdom
His grandad was one of the Donegal Others, I believe
Could be, could be Stephen Ireland, or Jack Grealish, or AN Other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingdom
His grandad was one of the Donegal Others, I believe
I'm not sure if Lenihan is really in the queue so much as it was an opportunity to take a closer look at him. The queue is probably just Coleman with everyone else equally behind him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
Cyrus could be the next achy breaky Harte.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
HOpefully not SVD.
Perhaps Mark Noble the second one. I dont really believe this though, why call up 2 more players a day before the Gibraltar game. It makes no sense really.
genius.Quote:
Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton
That's nice. English player gets called up ahead of an Irish player of the same profile who has played for his country all through the age levels. Calling up players for the sake of it instead of when the situation warrants it.
Noble, Naughton, Grealish etc etc... haven't worked out so has to call up some Granny ruler to prove a point, satisfy Irish journalists and prove it wasn't a fruitless exercise.
Edit: A League One player too.
Derby are in the Championship. He's a Championship player.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
For one match according to Wikipedia. For several reasons I think a call up can wait; that's one of them.
Doherty and/or McShane should be called up ahead of him. Try and scout Irish players and monitor players properly from underage level through their senior careers instead of pushing passports through for other players, who - let's face it - aren't much/better.
Lenihan too should be given a chance and no better time or place than the Gibraltar game. He has played for a Cork City team who were/are of a good level for God's sake. It's not much worse than the level some of the Polish players are playing at - much less Gibraltar.
But we all know the only reason he's in the squad is because he plays for Hull. Moving from Cork to Humberside has seemingly magically made him worthy of a call up all of a sudden - even though he was playing first team football at Cork (and isn't at Hull) . It's asinine.
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/s...ld-290363.html
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Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
And he hasn't been called up yet. Don't worry TOWK, we're always happy to do basic fact checking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wangball
The Irish Times says O'Neill has been in touch about him declaring.
Wrt the point of Doherty being injured, he returned for WW's last game so it'd appear he's fit, just overlooked.
If yer man Christie is actually called up this week it'd be strange alright but no need to get het up about it yet.
I bet bored of arguments about ex LOI players only being called up once they've made the move to England. It looks to me that this is a call up for the future and who knows what views management have taken on board. It's Gibraltar.
It's ten matches according to soccerbase - http://www.soccerbase.com/players/pl...layer_id=55833 - plus one game in the League Cup against Championship side Reading.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
That's more appearances this season than McShane, and only one less than Doherty. Strange you mention McShane in one sentence and then promoting underage players in the next.
BTW I would pay cash to see you tell Roy Keane this is asinine to his face.
You've love-in with the new management hasn't even lasted until the first competitive home game.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
Maybe MON has watched Doherty and wasn't impressed, or sees more value in what Christie could bring right now. Isn't that why he was hired? It's easy to look at a few team sheets, match reports and message boards every week and see which Irish guys seem to be doing okay, but decent managers are hired because they should be able to judge what is needed and who is best suited. They eventually live or die by the accumulation of their decisions and the success or failure it brings. No point in freaking out over minor judgement calls before a ball is even kicked. The Delaney thing is far more baffling but, again, we don't know his reasoning.
I'd have started Shane Duffy now that he is getting regular football at Blackburn, but who am I to tell Martin O'Neill what's what about a Derry lad
Richard Keogh is a big injury doubt now as well.
At 6'2", quick, athletic, an eye for a forward pass but also quick to put the foot in, it's possible O'Neill has another idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
Employing the 532/352 formation (successfully) at Celtic was a real masterstroke by O'Neill, and shows the kind of tactical nous that I hoped we could look forward to seeing - not that he would use 352 (although I'm a really big fan of it) but that he could come up with systems to suit the players strengths and skillsets and to maximise our abilities, just like Marcelo Bielsa can/does.
Now, I'm not saying O'Neill will or should be reinventing the wheel for us, but it is possible that this boy Christie could be a real budding right-side-of-a-3-centre-half, with someone like O'Shea/Pearce/Duffy anchoring, and Wilson/Clark the Christie equivalent on the left.
Or he could just be an alternative to Coleman.
If there is a second player then it's most likely David McGoldrickQuote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Is it allowable to keep on some of the U21s who played tonight and potentially name them on the bench against Gibralter?
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Originally Posted by backtowalsall
They can name anyone eligible they want right up until an hour before kick-off can't they>
40th in the world ranked Slovakia beat 8th ranked Spain tonight at home, they lead 1-0, before Spain equalised until a late winner from Stoch made it 2-1
well now, isn't that something
Hopefully, McGoldrick, Bamford, Grealish, Crowley, Noble, Kane and Christie all come on board soon. It will be great to have new options. Great move by O'Neill to bring in Lenihen too. Always nice to see a fresh face in the squad. It's amazing how Wikipedia has become a source of info on here, some people never learn!
What Christie might mean for Ireland is that Coleman could move into right midfield if necessary. Having two players who can attack as well as defend would certainly strengthen the team. If only Christie could play at left back!
Except Holland creamed Espana by more and the latter had their day, so what?
Do you seriously think O'Neill has been engaging in discussions with Christie simply for the sake of it (whatever that would even mean; do you mean to suggest he might be considering selecting players at random or what?...) or because he's a journalist-fearing manager keen to impress the gathering media mob? He's already demonstrated he isn't remotely bothered about getting on the wrong side of journalists. He'll select a player if he thinks he'll add something to the squad. It's as simple as that. No need for baloney. Why wouldn't the situation in which we find ourselves (very low on experienced right-back options) warrant consideration of a player like Christie?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
What's happened Keogh? It's getting worryingly threadbare at the back. Will Delaney be brought in? Dunne must have said he'd come back in case of emergency?! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
Have both Coleman and McCarthy been officially ruled out of Tuesday's game by the FAI yet or is there still even a slight chance one or both might make it? Just on Martinez and the FAI, as some seem to think Martinez is constantly out to debilitate us, he speaks of his "very good relationship with the Irish association" in this piece.
If Coleman is out of Tuesday, who's going to play in his place? Meyler?
is Holland the only country you refer to in its English form?Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
I think it's still a big scalp. There might be one or two Slovakian self loathers who are on the forums moaning about Spain clearly being past it on the evidence of their WC showing but I'd hazard a wild guess that most people are happy.
Equally I'd hazard a wild guess that Tets' point is that lesser teams can beat big teams do we should take encouragement from that rather than throwing in the towel before a ball is kicked.
I think the Dutch for Holland is Holland, and it's not a country :o
Only AB could dampen that win for Slovakia. Spain are obviously one of the front runners to win the Euros still. Casillas had another nightmare for the first goal, surely a matter of time before De Gea takes his place.
Heard it on the radio yesterday. A bit more here-Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Holland isn't a country, it's essentially a Province. The good people of Northern Netherlands (Friesland) get especially miffed by the term Holland.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
I had a good look at the second half, and it was painfully obvious that Spain were going to equalise; Slovakia kept retreating, and retreating, to the point where from a goalkick the SLovakian centre backs were about 20 yds from the penalty box, with Hamsik the furthest forward. The crazy thing was as soon as Spain equalised, Slovakia went back on the front foot. Madness Ted. The winner from Slovakia was a peach of a move, even if Casillas was atrocious trying to save it.
Don't think he could be blamed for the winner but it was like he was actively trying to get out of the way of the opener. If it was Bruce Grobbelaar, there would be some serious questions asked.
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I repectfully disagree :oQuote:
Originally Posted by The Joker
I actually felt sorry for him for the first goal; should he have saved it? yes, but it took a horrid swerve just after Pique or Juanfran (I think) stuck out the leg to try and block. There was definitely no full-on deflection, like Germany vs us for Khedira's opener, but I wonder did the ball move slightly due to the proximity of the out-stretched leg to the flight path of the ball. You could see he was trying to change direction, but got it horribly wrong.
Whereas for the winner, the header was straight at him, and I would have expected a keeper of his stature to have touched it at least.
It's horrible to see a stellar career such as his go downhill, a similar feeling I had watching Marc Sé for our bogballers, but thankfully that righted itself correctly in the end ;)
The winner was a header down into the ground from close range, all he could do was spread himself and hope it hit him. The quality of the cross meant he was scrambling across his goal also. I would accept that the swerve was a factor in the first goal but still a brutal attempt at saving it. There's actually another thread for Euro qualifiers in World Football. I suspect this will keep happening though, as my suggestion of moving the thread fell on deaf ears (blind eyes?) :)
It didn't hit the ground until after it crossed the line, and he was on the 6yd line outside the line with the post, but I appreciate it was a difficult header to save. I put it this way, if Forde concedes that type of goal on Tuesday, I would be expecting Westwood to save it. :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
Actually, it's what the Dutch refer to it as, well all their fans I've met since the last time we played in Gelsenkirchen...Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Forgive me. He played for Coventry the season they got relegated from the Championship and he has played two seasons where they toiled in League One. Now he's set for a call up on the back of ten League games. I just don't see the logic of going through the fuss of bringing him in as back up to Coleman and O'Brien when Matt Doherty has played U-19 and U-21 with merit and has as much PL, Championship and L1 experience. Even Richard Keogh can play that position.Quote:
Originally Posted by gastric
Grealish is not going to come on board soon. Crowley is years away from playing Intl. football at any level. Bamford and Kane have declared no interest in playing for us. Noble clearly does not have the right attitude.
That leaves McGoldrick. Hopefully he comes on board and challenges Keane, Long, Doyle, Murphy, Stokes and Walters. The more the merrier - though he wouldn't/shouldn't take overtake any of them yet.
Doyle's surely finished at international level? And Robbie has another year max.
Leaving club form aside (and he has earned a PL move on the back of a good spell with QPR), Doyle has shown he still has what it takes at Intl. level. Keane is on his last legs but he's going to start for the foreseeable future.
We don't know if McGoldrick will adapt to Intl. football. We know it suits Doyle.
This really is a very strange opinion, and probably symptomatic of all that is wrong with football on these isles.Quote:
Originally Posted by zero
Hoolahan is the most comfortable on the ball of all our players and generally turns us from a "hoofball, treat the ball like a hot potato" team into a team that can keep the ball for more than a few seconds. Nobody thinks he's a worldbeater, but he can receive the ball, turn, create himself some space and pick a pass.
Sure, he might try a defence-splitting pass that doesn't come off every so often, but that's the definition of a defence-splitting pass.... it's high risk. Other than that he's about the best we have at keeping possession. I really fail to see how anyone could suggest the complete opposite.
As regards winning it back: I watched the Oman game on the TV with Keith Andrews as co-commentator. He said Wes is great at pressing and, more importantly, at knowing when to press and when to hold back. He also said Hoolahan is a surprisingly tenacious tackler.
Really, love to see him back to his form of 5 years ago, but suspect it won't ever happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
When was his last decent game for us? Estonia 3 years ago?
I remember Bill calling out Giles & Dunphy for referring to them as Holland during the WC. Apparently someone complained to RTE....Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingdom
didn't Bill apologise, and then someone contacted RTE saying it wasn't offensive? I could be wrong though.Quote:
Originally Posted by IsMiseSean
sure many dutch fans refer to the team as HollandQuote:
Originally Posted by IsMiseSean
Probably those in the Holland provinces. Yeah, Bill apologised and a while later Dunphy referred to them as Holland again. Bill corrected him and Dunphy laughed saying something along the lines of "They'll always be Holland to me Bill". Bill, foreseeing a potential sh!t storm, said "ah no Eamon, call them The Netherlands".
North & South Holland are two of twelve provinces that make up The Netherlands. They are the most densely populated but you can see why it must be a bit insulting to those that make up the other ten provinces. It would probably be like Ireland being called Leinster. More here-