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I can't remember Jarni signing for Coventry at all. Interesting!.......
"In the summer of 1998, Jarni initially moved to English side Coventry City, signing for £2.6m from Real Betis. However, when Real Madrid decided they wanted the player, they successfully bought him from Coventry for £3.4m with Jarni having made no appearances whatsoever. Some believe this was a joint Coventry City and Real Madrid tactic, as Betis refused to sell him to the Madrid club." from Wiki.
A league title and a Champions League Final for what on paper is an average Man U side by their standards but then football matches are not played on paper.
And what of the relegation battle. The porno industries' West Ham look the favourites, alas aided by Robbie's misses in front of goal. Fingers crossed for Wolves. Six pointer against Blackburn in the final game?
I hope West Ham go down. The way they treated Zola was shocking and now they're worse off then they were when he was in charge.
[QUOTE=OwlsFan;1482394]Yes, it is amusing seeing Wenger going absolutely ballistic and Pat Rice sitting there poker faced letting it all wash over him. That is the sort of personality required for Wenger as his No. Two I think. We don't know what goes on at the Arsenal training ground or behind the scenes. Just because he doesn't rant and rave, it doesn't mean that Rice is not effective at whatever he does.
I wouldn't buy the theory that Dalglish is bigger than the players. To the fans perhaps, but not to the players themselves, many of whom were not born when he was playing and are from foreign parts. They are all multi-millionaires and he is some old Scotsman whom I suspect they find difficult to understand who once played at a high level. They have done well in the league under him but they have have also been knocked out of two cup competitions.[/QUOTE]
I hope they start to understand him soon! Yes end of term report will read lots to do but keep up the good work.
The transformation is incredible. It's one thing coming in a steadying the ship, which would have been an achievement in itself, but to implement a far more expansive and attack minded style of play while introducing youth has been a major achievement. They really are playing with a smile on their face compared to previous management, and you know I don't only mean Hodgson when I say that. It amazing to think that the same "two man team" can produce such high level performances after the sale of Torres and injury to Gerrard. The purchase of Saurez has obviously helped a lot, the new style revolves around him in many respects the way runs the channels. I suspect an enormous amount of credit is probably due to Steve Clarke also, he always struck me as being an excellent coach but it's difficult/impossible for us to know what's going on being the scenes sometimes and the manager will inevitably receive all the accolades.Quote:
Originally Posted by KK77
Yes i heard Dalglish saying last night it was not a one man show and mentioned Steve Clarke among others. A long way to go all the same as no doubts expectations will be over the top next season and the pressure will be on him to deliver. Sure we'll what happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
jesus lads give it a break about liverpool. winning games against teams with nothing to play for at end of season . going very tamely out of europa league, yes dalglish has done a good job so far suarez looks an excellent signing but 35 million for andy carroll i'm not sure yet and he still needs a few more players but at least he has got them playing as a team with passion . cant believe nobody has even mentioned utd after last sundays result alex ferguson should get manager of the year if wins league title with the worst utd team in years !!Quote:
Originally Posted by KK77
It might not be the strongest United side on paper but they must be a nightmare to play against. Their back four isn't far off a world eleven back line, certainly three out of four would be pushing for a place. They have no passengers whatsoever at the moment, well some would argue Carrick but I feel he contributes more in the big matches than in the less imporant ones. The work rate of Rooney, Hernandez, Park and Valencia is outstanding and there's no lack of ability there either. They could do with a world class central midfielder. The are being heavily linked with Wesley Sneijder, who could be the final part of the jigsaw. That said, Manchester City might just offer three or four times the price to make sure United don't get him. What Ferguson has done at that football club is nothing short of miraculous. He is certainly the greatest British manager of all time in my opinion, no contest. He'd have been up there after his reign at Aberdeen alone. Breaking Old Firm dominance was pretty much as unlikely back then as it is now. To go from 6-18 behind in League titles to 19-18 ahead is phenomenal, and hopefully it'll be 4-5 in European Cups in a couple of weeks, from a starting position of 1-4.
I don't think we're going overboard about Liverpool. I'm not saying they'll win the league next year or anything, but it's hard to believe they're the same players that looked like duds in Rafa's final season and Hodgson's brief tenure. Who would have thought a midfield pairing of Lucas and Spearing would have performed so well five months ago? Also, they have trashed Man Utd and Man City at Anfield, won at Stamford Bridge and drawn at The Emirates, at a point when all these clubs had everyting to play for.
But that's all we are saying! Yes Fergie has done some job and i don't think anyone can have anything other than respect for what he has achieved.Quote:
Originally Posted by old git
15 Blackburn 37 -14 40
16 Wolves 37 -19 40
17 Birmingham 37 -20 39
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18 Blackpool 37 -21 39
19 Wigan 37 -22 39
Sunday, 22 May 2011
Man Utd v Blackpool, 16:00
Stoke v Wigan, 16:00
Tottenham v Birmingham, 16:00
Wolverhampton v Blackburn, 16:00
On the face of it, Birmingham, Blackpool and Wigan should get nothing from their games making Wolves and Blackburn safe. However, Man U and Stoke (on the back of two defeats by Man City) have nothing to play for but one must assume Blackpool will get nothing from their trip to Old Trafford. However, if they draw and Wolves lose by 2 they'd both have an identical goal difference!!
It looks likely though that the position of the teams will remain the same but history tells us otherwise and the possibility of Wigan picking up something away at Stoke and indeed Birmingham at Stoke is not without some hope. Thus Wolves MUST do the business at home to Blackburn.
Fascinating end to the season at ever at the foot of the table. My preference would be for Wigan and Blackpool to go down.
I remember United put a B team out against Hull a couple of seasons back and still won. They also took apart Schalke a few weeks back so I fear for Blackpool.
If I had to pick who I'd like to go down then it would be Brum and Blackburn.
could be a cracking game at old trafford .. utd to be presented with league title will want to finish with a show no matter what team fergie puts out and blackpool only know how to attack.. out of all the teams in bottom birmingham seem to be in freefall and look the most likely to go down the rest is totally on the day could be a dramatic finish to season with plenty of twists & turns.Quote:
Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
But for Birmingham to go down, Wigan or Blackpool have to pick up a point (assuming Birmingham lose). Hard task for both.
I think Wigan could edge out Birmingham. I'd prefer to be in Wigan's boots on Sunday. After last week, they are breathing the air of reprieve and are in a good position to beat Stoke.
Birmingham have a tough game against Spurs. Even if Spurs wouldn't take the Europa competition so seriously, they think it's an achievement to reach the position of choice - not to take it seriously.
I want Wigan to stay up. They try to play decent football, and although their empty stadium has no real place the PL, they are well run and I like Martinez. They have the almost perfect game to finish off with, playing a team with a horrible cup final defeat hangover with nothing significant to play for. It would have been perfect if it was at home though as Stoke can be very strong on their own patch.
I would like to see Blackburn relegated, if just to emphasise the stupidity of sacking Big Sam.
Birmingham are not good to watch, but have a couple of Irish players that would probably remain there even if they were relegated. Of course, this may not be such a bad thing. Carr isn't in the equation anyway and Fahey would have a better chance of playing more regularly, even if it is at a lower level.
We have to hope Wolves stay up really with all the Irish lads there, plus they're a good honest side with great support.
My prediction:
Stoke v Wigan DRAW
Spurs v Birmingham HOME
Man Utd v Blackpool HOME
Wolves v Blackburn AWAY
Table:
15 Blackburn 43pts
16 Wolves 40pts
17 Wigan 40pts
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18 Birmingham 39pts
19 Blackpool 39pts
I think Blackpool and Birmingham will both beaten and go down. I strongly fancy Wolves to beat Blackburn and also fancy Wigan to not get beaten at Stoke. From a selfish point of view i'd rather Birmingham stayed up as their ground is so handy to get to from the airport!!!!
Nail biting stuff for Wolves. At least Birmingham have their League Cup to console themselves with. You don't get medals for staying in a league but you do for winning a cup. It all seemed to be going pear shaped for Mick just as I thought to myself "It's unlikely that both Birmingham and Wigan will score" and they both do in the space of a couple of minutes but then Wolves fight back and score the 2 needed to survive. Tremendous stuff.
One of the biggest if not the biggest club in the world wins its 19th English title and Ferguson makes a speech. Yawwnnnn. The drama as in most seasons was at the bottom. How Wigan manage to stay up there for 6 seasons now (?), amazing.
He has been named now! Mind you it was getting farcical with the Blackpool chants.
Decent shout there Delorean, pretty darn close to how it actually panned out.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
Yeah, well two were pretty obvious to be fair. Fancied Wigan to get something alright and Wolves self destruct on a regular basis in the games they're expected to do well in. I actually threw €100 on Man Utd to beat Blackpool when I heard they were 1/2. I've never thrown anywhere near that amount on a bet in my life but would have thrown a grand on it if I had it. It was actually 4/9 I ended up getting and man, did they make me sweat for it. To be honest I was expecting United to be out of sight by half time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Junior
I haven't seen any of the experts of the game pushing Hodgson for the Chelsea job. I wonder if they will go for him.
Hodgson will never get a job at a big club again.
Would he even want a job at a big club again the way he was treated, by the fans mainly, at Liverpool? I'm sure he's happy out anyway working some more Hodge miracles at another small club competing at a high level.
Also, Chelsea have a lot more pulling power (cash!!) than Liverpool did at the time of Benitez's departure.
So true.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
It's amazing the vitriol he got (and is still getting) from a large amount of Liverpool fans. It's not as if he wanted to fail at Liverpool, and at the time of his appointment the club was in crisis, the ownership issue was up in the air, there were no funds, he had an out of from want-away striker who he had to play due to fan pressure... it was an impossible job.
Benitiez is deified by their fans despite him committing the shambolic decision (trying to replace Alonso with Gareth "5mph" Barry) that ripped the heart out of that team.
Reckon Chelsea should go for him? Woy not Rafa!!!!! LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by cfdh_edmundo
Not sure the Chelsea thing matters if i am hearing right. Hearing Hodgson could be in line for the Man U job when Fergie steps down. How would Man U fans feel about this?
There's no way Manchester United or any other top European club would even consider Hodgson.
Cheers just looking for a general consensus on the subject based on what i am hearing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
It's pretty obvious you are just stirring (or would you like to reveal your source) but I'll humour you anyway...Quote:
Originally Posted by KK77
Firstly, Hodgson is 63 now. Ferguson doesn't intend stepping down any time soon but lets say, hypothetically, he leaves in two seasons time. I find it very hard to see United replacing him with a 65 year old. Also, Hodgson is generally accepted as a cautious manager. This wouldn't really fit the United mould, they are known for playing exciting, expansive football, just as Liverpool were in the 70's/80's. Hodgson taking over at Liverpool made a bit more sense. They were in crisis and they got somebody with experience to try to steady the ship. This backfired for all the reasons edmundo referred to above, the main one being the fans undying love for Benitez and contempt for anything non-Rafa. Hodgson's style of play wasn't much of an issue when he was appointed, as Liverpool had already been playing negative, unattractive football for the best part of a decade under Houllier and, in particular, Benitez.
Def agree. In fact so poor were Liverpool some people were even tipping them to be relegated at the start of the seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by cfdh_edmundo
So no to Hodgson for Man U?Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
Yeah thank god for King Kenny. A lot of work to do but seems to be going about it the right way.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
But wouldnt it be nice if Hodgson was given the chance with two hot strikers and a war kitty? And timeQuote:
Originally Posted by KK77
[QUOTE=bennocelt;1490845]But wouldnt it be nice if Hodgson was given the chance with two hot strikers and a war kitty?
If's, but's and maybe's. Personally no i wouldn't trust him with a war kitty.
Hodgson for Man U?
Dalgleish has done a good job so far, but it was the general way that Hodgson was treated both by the club and the fans, why did they employ him in the first place?
Blackpool 2 Liverpool 1. Exit stage left two cup competitions. 35 million on Andy Carroll ? All hail King Kenny
If you couldn't find my answer to that in my post, there must be something seriously wrong with you. Your hatred for Hodgson must be deep, why else would you create a rumour just to initiate negative comments about him? Things weren't always so hostile between you two...Quote:
Originally Posted by KK77
Of course this was subsequently contradicted with...Quote:
Originally Posted by KK77
I know I have drawn attention to this before, but given the depths you have gone to, I felt it was worth pointing out again.Quote:
Originally Posted by KK77
meow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by delorean