The difference is €42k nased on last year's figures. Not a massive amount in fairness.
From Irish TimesQuote:
Premier Division
1. €280,000
2. €130,000
3. €82,000
4. €60,000
5. €50,000
6. €47,000
7. €45,000
8. €42,000
9. €41,000
10. €40,000
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The difference is €42k nased on last year's figures. Not a massive amount in fairness.
From Irish TimesQuote:
Premier Division
1. €280,000
2. €130,000
3. €82,000
4. €60,000
5. €50,000
6. €47,000
7. €45,000
8. €42,000
9. €41,000
10. €40,000
I'd rather Bohs cheat their way to one hundred league titles than ever see Shams win it.
Just a point....:p
Some quality FF thinking there....Quote:
Originally Posted by Rovers1
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Originally Posted by BYCTWD
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Thats not really the point. Its bad practice and they are the only club trying to engage in it. Also Bohs outbid other clubs for players based on that projection. All people want is a level playing field, which to be fair to the FAI they appear to be imposing in this case.
Whoops its not as big a deal as you hoped now is it? And now because its only €42K its suddenly not the point anymore? Is that it? Superb stuff:)
One could argue that all league clubs being bailed out by their local councils in terms of facilities would be a level playing field.No.One thing is for certain there is no one at Bohs worried about Rovers on or off the field.Doesnt seem to be the same at rovers though
Just to go off-topic for a moment,
Premier Division
1. €280,000
2. €130,000
3. €82,000
4. €60,000
5. €50,000
6. €47,000
7. €45,000
8. €42,000
9. €41,000
10. €40,000
We finished 7th last season but with the whole Derry situation we ended up in 6th, Does anyone know if we get the extra 2k??
I don't swallow the spin in that article. The sum involved has to be more than that, doubt the FAI would be splitting hairs over a difference of less than a grand a week in projected income, especially when this income would make little difference to cash flow over the course of the season, as it's only paid out when the season is finished.Quote:
Originally Posted by CMcC
Black and Tans, Pigsboro, Biggles FC...is this a new language?Quote:
Originally Posted by BYCTWD
I personally dont see how this is a signigicant blow to anyone. So they go back with a budget less 42K over the year? Or they come up with a projected 42K income stream from somewhere else? I know you really want it to be a huge body blow and you really wanted it to be a much bigger hole and you really really want Bohs relegated and want the transfer embargo to be kept in force but lets be honest here - none of that is going to happen now is it?
As for the FAI growing balls. I would tend to believe its the FAI saying to Bohs something like - listen lads we really have to knock you back to be seen to be the hard man here. I dont think we could get away with letting you budget for a 3rd place finish (quite reasonable IMO) as your friends in Tallaght will have a right moan and call us out in the press again so off with you now and pop back with that taken out of the budget. Once you do that lads, we will sign off the accounts and you are free to sign who you like. Is that fair lads? Ok Mr Delaney - see you next week so.
I think you are wishing way to hard and it is maybe clouding your judgement just a tad on this.
If you consider the 40 baseline prizemoney as a TV money share or as a refund of your entry fees then the real prizemoney table looks like this
1. €240,000
2. €130,000
3. €42,000
4. €20,000
5. €10,000
6. €7,000
7. €5,000
8. €2,000
9. €1,000
10. €0,000
which is crazy as it actively encourages clubs to gamble! This should be reformed ASAP with more money going into the first division.
bhs
Was away on business so missed all the fun ! Imagine my shock/horror when I returned to see the above :mad: surely this must mean -Quote:
Originally Posted by BYCTWD
- Bohs have been stripped of the title and relegated (as predicted)? NOPE.
- Bohs included prize money for all throphies in 2010 budget (as predicted) ? NAH
- Will not be allowed in Champs Lge? NOPE AGAIN
- Points deduction for 2010 season 9as predicted) ?. FRAID NOT
- Messrs Cretaro and Gray will have to be released and join a small club in Tallaght they already rejected ? NOT A CHANCE
- Barry Murphy will have to return to club he already rejected ? NOPE
- Nutsey (and Bohs defence) off to Dundee (as predicted) ? DONT BE SILLY
- FAI ask Bohs to revisit budget because they are "near" 65% (shock, horror - FAI change own rules ) to provide "buffer" (whatever that is) ? Yep, thats about it.
Oh, what a joy it must be for our sham friends, and what great consolation it will be over a long season watching Bohs wrap up the three-in-a-row title (pretty much guaranteed now you predicted midtable mediocrity) ;)
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Originally Posted by marinobohs
Fair play i actually didnt think anyone was going to manage to muster the energy to reply to him this time!
So Bohs fans aren't worried at all about having their well planned out budget rejected by the FAI? Months after being hit with a transfer embargo for being in a precarious financial position? Weeks after having to stump up a figure thought to be around 90k to Fenlon in unpaid bonuses that they'd put off for over a year?
what is telling here is your complete inability to make an accurate prediction (despite sounding like you know what youre talking about) or the inability of your sources to stop exaggerating. It makes you look a fool.Quote:
Originally Posted by BYCTWD
Whoops, hit a raw nerve or what ? no Bohs contributor here said we did not include money for third place, as we were told this at the EGM ( fact is, despite your obvious obsession, what is said at Bohs EGM is none of your business).Quote:
Originally Posted by BYCTWD
Contributors on here refuted your WRONG (yet again) claim that we had budgeted for winning (A) all domestic throphies or (B) winning the League in 2010. We were right you were wrong - get over it.
As you are obviously slow at reading I will repeat again - budgeting for prize money was allowed in 2009, no secret, no rule breaking, no problem.
take you up on the Nutsey bet as would be glad to see 20 euro go to a good cause (wont include it in any budget though ;)) but IF he does it will be because Dundee pay up what Bohs will settle for, nothing else.
By way of clarity the points where I put (as predicted) are the ones you got wrong so far, other points are extensions of same (at least you have given up the "you have signed nobody" line). Also very glad to see the points deduction is now a "probably" not as certain as you were or just covering your eventual embarrassment ?
It appears clear that all you have to offer is a a selection of childish abusive names (bozos ? really) and silly scattergun claims that dont stack up.
I Would hate to reach the stage where I was more concerned with wishing ill on another club than supporting my own. Sad really :mad:
yep, well spotted. We owed a bonus for winning the League last november "over a year ago" oh, and the figure you quote is not even close either.:rolleyes: other than that your post is spot on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jicked
half that 90k and youre still not close.Quote:
Weeks after having to stump up a figure thought to be around 90k to Fenlon in unpaid bonuses that they'd put off for over a year?
over a year? Since when has 3 months been over a year?
I predict that this season is bohs last spin on the roulette wheel.I dont see attendances at Dalymount improving on last year or NAMA sorting out o carrols mess anytime soon,they will struggle to pay players sooner rather than later cos you cant run a full time pro football club with 1500 fans end of.
NAMA and Carroll are so last year . But then again Rovers fans living in the past is nothing new
Don't speak too soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoversHead
It was fairly common knowledge that there were still outstanding bonus payments from the first title win.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
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Originally Posted by Jicked
That was in 1924, the Hoops rumour machine/psyops dept is bang up to date again.
If so explain the hold up with selling Dalymount to Albion?Fact is you cant because carrols affairs are far from sorted,bankruptsy in this country is a very messy buisness,at this moment in time you are not free to sell Dalymount to anybody, why is that?when do you think a deal will be done?when does Gerry think a deal will be done?Does it need to happen in the next two yrs to pay back 4m to zurich bank?after all that how long will it take to find land get planning and build a new home in meath?So many questions so little time.But all is not lost ,the Bohs trocaire box idea on bohs .com sounds like a good plan.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeaumontBohs
That's the best retort you could come up? As for the Hoops rumour machine it was correct all the way through the Fenlon deal, releasing details often times hours before they broke on official sites. I think I'll believe them on that issue of Fenlon being owed bonuses for both title winning years, since they were right on everything else to do with that deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
get over yourselves ffs... the "hoops rumour machine" - lol - breaking things before anyone else - who do you think you lot are? Reuters or something? Ask me boll.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jicked
Erm, I was quoting a Bohemian fan above who used the "Rovers rumour machine" bit in the post above mine :o
I'm thinking more AP - the Associated PigsQuote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Shamrock Reuters. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Réiteoir
Some comedy gold there. Meanwhile four or five Bohemians fans have discussed my post from the previous page, and none have commented or seem at all worried on the actual issue. Instead you guys try to make out that I made a mistake, when I suggest I didn't you spend your time making cringe-inducing puns.
Fenlon was owed nowhere near 90k. Ive yet to see any official confirmation that the budget was rejected. As far as Im aware the FAI are happy with the figures but need further clarification on certain points. At a guess Id say they want assurances that there wont be a repeat of last seasons asking for UEFA money in June.
calm down. Youre getting far too worked up over this. The "hoops rumour machine" knows the truth and thats all that matters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jicked
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Originally Posted by Jicked
When you source your claims in the realm of "fairly common knowledge" you dont really expect to get a serious response ? Anyway, keep clutching at those straws!
I think bohs fans are misjudging the interest that Rovers fans are showing towards bohs and their precarious finances.
Your our rivals, our only decent rivals unlike the small bitter clubs like pats and sligo.
While we would pi$$ ourselves laughin at a temporary demise/cull of your clubs standing, we dont want you gone by any manner of means.
We look forward to the derby games as much as youse do i'd wager.
What we find hard to fathom is the "supposed" ignorance with which some of your fans seem to accept the utter drivel and nonsense of your previous board and one current board member;)
anyways thats all
I give up. I've tried to fairly polite and sincere in asking a few questions, and have been met with nothing but silence, several fans dodging the question, very poor standard insults and now you're just pretending there's no problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
I've already said that the sources were right on every single thing to do with this deal the whole way through. It wasn't mere speculation, they were posting what would happen hours before it subsequently did happen, all the way along. Now you're saying that although they were sincere on every other point in relation to the deal, they were making up this final point for some unknown reason, despite having no reason to presume otherwise. I presume you're just putting up a united front and don't want to talk about such details in public.
Fair enough, but you could just say so instead of trying of publicly pretending there's no problem and that having your budget rejected (having apparently been warned before the meeting and given extra time to prepare adequate information) having also had a transfer embargo for six months or so isn't a major issue, that things will simply work themselves out once you continue to organise rinky dink fundraising efforts. If you're not putting on a front and genuinely believe that then I'm amazed about the blasé attitude you're displaying towards the state of your club.
Jicked/Placid - you have to appreciate that for every post like the ones above (which look to be well reasoned, polite and sincere (as Jicked has said), we have to put up with 50 of the other variety from that BWCTYD character - not to mention some of the other circling vultures from those "small bitter clubs".
I hope you can see where I am coming from - well reasoned debate is fine - speculation and what should/might turn out to be utter lies is what gets to some here.
Myself - I couldn't really care less - we'll wait to see what ACTUALLY happens (I wager absolutely nothing).
Trust me there is no misjudgement at all around the "interest" taken by Shams in relation to Bohs. It is almost exclusively petty, small minded gossip reguritated from the bowels of the always-ultra website or wishful thinking by begruders. Any rubbish is acceptable as long as it has a go at the Champions (including a variety of childish nicknames more at home in a primary schoolyard).Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
As regards other "small bitter clubs" - pot, kettle and Black springs to mind;)
The Shams concern for their Bohemian supporting bretheren is so touching. It almost brings a tear to the eye at this stage. It's lovely to see, in a hands across the Liffey sort of way.
Bohs fans were the exact same when it was Shels to be fair.
Our main concern is that we seem to be the only ones who are not having anymore of it from Bohs ,they will be made obey league rules and scrutinised at every turn enough is enough.Not surprising that some UCD AND BRAY fans share our feelings on this,why should clubs who obey rules be relegated while these clowns just sharpen the magic pencil and go here will this set of accounts do if not just give us a week and pass that rubber will ya.
Nice to see the "guardians of the League" mantle taken on at Tallaght. if your "concern" is with regard to apllication of the rules then how come there has been little or no sham comment on events at Cork (or more recently Drogheda) ? obviously you only care about rules when it benifits shams so climb down off your high horse there and show a bit of respect for the League Champions :D.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoversHead
if you are so concerned about the image of the game I would suggest you address rascist chanting, assaulting officials and hooligan directors before pontificating on problems at other clubs.
So if you are such a big club where are your trophies from the last few years and why can't you afford your own ground?Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
Just a point. Whatever about calling us a small club, Pats have had much more success than you over the last few years.
This "small club v big club" argument is a joke in the league of Ireland context when every club is only one bad season away from disaster.
Surely you must know that by now.
Rovers have activly supported foras in Cork and Drogs moves to become a community club ,Bohs are the only club refusing enter the real world