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Thats because, many words are not actually spoken in jest ;)
You are of course 100% correct in your assertion that no LOI supporter is involved in junior football.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
These crock of excrement arguments are pointless.
where is that assertion?Quote:
Originally Posted by tiktok
Yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Meetings are held in Non Irish bars on away trips.
pg. 15Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
I refer you to my earlier post about how pointless 'I'm a Superfan' arguments are.
Does Blatters apology change your view?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alf Honn
Even if the muppet apologised to the Irish Football Association instead of the FAI, and his announcement that the Henry incident will be referred to the disciplinary committee, a big change in his attitude in a short space of time.
It's about time people copped on the only culprits in this are the French Football Federation and FIFA for not condoning what happened and pledging to prevent it happening again.
Does ORA chair them?Quote:
Originally Posted by MariborKev
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Originally Posted by Greenforever
Not at all.
You're missing the point. It's nothing got to do with Blatter, what he said or what he's saying now.
On official request was made by the FAI to FIFA for us to be handed an extra place in the WC2010.
Desperate stuff and we'll continue to be the laughing stock of World football for many years to come.
:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
No chairs, only stools.
well they'd be even more of a laughing shock if they just lay down and said nothing. If you don't ask you don't get.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alf Honn
Id say ORA would do a lot of "stooling" at these meetings alright ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
According this it wasn't:Quote:
Originally Posted by Alf Honn
"'The FAI has already clarified that this matter was peripheral, was not raised in any of its formal written submissions to FIFA "
Which goes back to my original point. IF this was a meeting and minutes were taken, it could have been requested to have this not on it. Either the FAI are lying or they are not. BUt blatter coming out publicly apologising makes me think they might actually be right in this case.
Again, if its not a WRITTEN request, ad lib, off the record its not a formal request and for blatter to come out and do what he did shows the man in his true light. He is obvious aware of the (legal and otherwise) consequences of such a matter and thats why he has come out and apologised. I think some people are missing the main point here.
get a grip. some on here would love that but it'll be yesterdays news by the time the finals draw is made tomorrowQuote:
Originally Posted by Alf Honn
Does the the fact that I watch other football(from my barstool and comfortable sofa) make me less of a proper fan even though I have been going up to Terryland for over 20 years? Im also part of the "Ole Ole" brigade so I must be a total sellout. Some LOI fans need to get over this superiority complex they have.And why in the name of God do people who obviously dont give a toss about the national team spend so much time posting in the International Section of this website.Im not a Shamrock Rovers or Drogheda fan so I dont bother posting in there because I have no interest in them
On a more relevant note I thought the statement today from the FAI was excellent. It made exactly the right points about the disgraceful behaviour of Blatter.They are totally right about keeping the issue in the public eye and I hope that it will lead to changes in the attitude towards technology being used in future.
As for lads telling us to get over it and move on, there is alot of Irish fans rightly still angry over that happened to Eoin Hands Irish team in Belguim in 81 and I suspect that in 20 years from now I will still be angry about what happened in Paris.
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Originally Posted by Alf Honn
Obviously you are so anti FAI that you cant even read statements of fact, the FAI never officially requested a 33rd spot, it was a fleeting comment made during a 90 minute meeting. Blatter has apologised for his comments. I dont recall Blatter issuing too many formal apologies in the past.
It is purely because so much of the football world is outraged at Blatters comments that he was forced into his apology.
Really? This is what I and the whole world read from the FAI statement on Mon:Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenforever
'A lot was discussed at the meeting and at one stage the FAI asked if Ireland could be accommodated into the World Cup 2010.'
Is there any other way we could be accommodated?
If Robbie Keane scored the exact same goal, how could the ref disallow what he didn't see, as per point 2??Quote:
Originally Posted by Emmet7
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Originally Posted by Alf Honn
Yes but yet again we do not know in what context it was said, as I've already said Blatter was embarrassed into making an apology.
Given that the meeting went on for 90 minutes and Blatter has chosen to ignore all other items discussed I know who's version of events I'd believe. It was meant to be a confidential meeting and if you have ever attended long business meetings Im sure someone has suggested something a bit whacky to lighten the tone, not execting it to be taken seriously or quoted publically when it has been agreed to keep the contnets of the meeting private.
Delany has behaved in a dignified manner in all the correspondence unlike Blatter who went missing for 2 weeks before condoning Henry's behaviour, breaching the confidentiality of a meeting before being forced into a humble uturn in apologising and refering Henry to a disciplinary hearing.
Sounds like a really 5hitty meeting.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
I'm glad that Blatter has said sorry, but that doesn't mitigate the damage that his original comments have made. His version of events were twice around the world long before Delaney put his shoes on. The FAI should never have given him anything to spin with, but they did. I can see why Blatter is so good at staying in power, no matter what a reprehensible piece of human effluent he is.
With a wooden gavel, none of your inflatable tricolour hammers for me ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
brilliant ORA and brilliant response geysir :D
Doire, thats the point, the FAI dont have the same media outlets or receipients as Messr Blatter. His original comments will have been carried around the world, however his second im pretty sure wont. I know for a fact the FAI statement hasn't gone anywhere near as global.
John: you stole my original by idea....
Fair play to Ms Theron pulling Ireland out of the bowl in the rehearsal.
Oops - missed your post. Still, it was a crap idea! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
WHAT!Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Stupid dense unforgiveably stunning bint! I spent the best part of two weeks planning to get the ball into the bowl, and she yanks it out a couple of days before.
And I know we'd have got away with it, as long as we took the approach "as the official overseeing the draw did not see the ball being handled in, it must stand"...
She really should have saved it for the official draw.
A brilliant statement from the FAI tonight. Points very well put across and showed real balls on the part of the governing body of soccer in Ireland. Prompted a pathetic apology (but an apology nonetheless) which showed BLatter up for the sniveling little weasel that he is. I'm not an advocate of the FAI at all but I have to say they came out the better in this whole farcical mess.
And it's still rumbling on ... we can't seem to get over it. It's like the neverending moaning about Brian O'Driscoll's injury on the Lions tour to New Zealand. It's like the Irish team talking about the win over the Springboks as being revenge for the Lions failure and the Luke FitzGerald eye gouging. There seems to be an obsession with these incidents, when New Zealand's Tony Woodcock was eye gouged by the French last weekend the report was made and the NZ media have not spoken about it since. I think we need to man up a bit here and move on. It's only a game and we are losing dignity the longer this goes on.
the odriscoll incident couldve broken his neck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Qwerty
so what if they mentioned the SA win was revenge for the lions? big deal.
never heard the revenge issue over the eye gouging mentioned once after our win.
the fact that the fitzgerald gouging incident received so much coverage at the time was that it was so blatantly dangerous and didnt get the punishment it deserved. such serious issues should be kept in the public eye (no pun intended!).
The SA media have mentioned it, especially in light of Heaslip being accused, albeit 3 days after the game :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
What exact "damage" was done? Before we asked confidentally could we go to the World Cup, we weren't going. After we asked we still weren't going. Some egg on our face but egg on a face doesn't go any damage. Just needs to be wiped away and in this instance the thrower of the egg had to apologise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doire Abu
Same result (no damage) but lots of egg on Blatter's hands as he wipes the egg off Delaney's face. I am happy with that outcome.
After all the dust has settled the FAI have to get on with the job of being a member of FIFA. There's nothing that they can do. Do they think that they didn't know about the corruption, Blatter's ways and the way the game worked?Quote:
Originally Posted by dr_peepee
What ends would this have?
WHAT????:eek: You winding me up man?? The serenity to accept what we can't chage?? Put up an shut up???..... Jim Larkin is rolling in his grave...
Balls to that... What end you ask?? I'll tell you what end?? The world of cycling and athletics have been decimated in recent times due to questionable ethics. Before the usual nit picking pedestal mounters on here (you know who you are) claim I'm equating Paris to the persistant abuse of performance enhancing drugs I'm not... I'm hammering home the potential effect on an institutian when the sports integrity is compromised.
We have a situation where we as stereotypical underdogs were DEFINATELY WITHOUT DOUBT conspired against along with other minority nations in terms of the belated seeding of the playoff. And more pointedly denied a place in the sports showpiece tournament on the back of a blatant breaking of the most fundemental rule of the sport itself at a defining point in a campaign.. That's CAMPAIGN, not match, not Leg. Campaign. WITH NO ACCOUNtABILITY OR DETERENT in place for future infractions.
Mark my words. FIFA want this to die. Charleze Theron did us a huge favour last night. I'm embarassed by the Oliver Twist perception of us begging for a replay or free pass. I am. But it's serving another purpose of keeping this in the public eye the day before the draw is made.
I'll be content with a three game competitive ban for Henry, plus the addition of "umpires" behind the goal.
Harrumph!!!!
A 3 match ban for henry? On what grounds? You're keen to use FIFA's creditability when it suits you and ignore their bending of the rules when it's to your own advantage. Fair enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by dr_peepee
I do agree with the need for the referee team needing expanding, and help from TV. It's done wonders for Tennis, and adds excitement to rugby, American football and cricket.
My point is that the FAI have been in bed with FIFA for how long, and they've never once thought that they're slightly corrupt? Someone's made a good point in here, at the end of the day we're no more important than a St. Kitts and Nevis in Blatter's eyes.
On the grounds of gross unsporting behaviour - for the umpteenth time. Perfectly valid grounds with actual precedents, both UEFA & FIFA.Quote:
Originally Posted by twoenz
I posted this on another thread but it's just as relevant here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...-handball.html
"The disciplinary commission is an independent organ," said a Fifa spokesman. "It will decide if the case is of interest. The possibility exists of sanctioning a player for unsporting behaviour on the basis of video evidence."
"...the more apt parallel is with Mauro Tassotti, who was banned for eight games by Fifa after elbowing Spain's Luís Enrique during a World Cup quarter-final at USA 94. The incident had been missed by the referee.
Similarly, Marco Materazzi, the controversial Italian defender, was handed a two-match ban and fined €5,000 (£4,500) for inciting France's Zinedine Zidane to butt him in the 2006 World Cup final after a panel reviewed footage of the game."
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...the-Wo-001.jpg
Robert Mugabe with the World Cup, which was passing through Harare on its way to South Africa for the draw for next year's tournament. Photograph: Tsvangirayi Mukwazhi/AP
Human rights groups in Zimbabwe have condemned world football's governing body for allowing Robert Mugabe to hold the World Cup trophy as it passed through Zimbabwe.
The trophy is on a tour of all 53 African countries ahead of next year's football showpiece in neighbouring South Africa. But activists in Zimbabwe criticised Fifa for handing a propaganda coup to a leader blamed for atrocities and oppression.
At a ceremony in Harare yesterday, Mugabe joked gleefully as he lifted the cup. Inspecting the 6.5kg solid gold trophy, the president could not resist a dig at his old enemy Britain, according to the New Zimbabwe website. "Britain does not have any gold, neither does Germany," he was quoted as saying.
"I am tempted to think that it came from Africa, and from Zimbabwe, and was taken away by adventurers who shaped it into this cup."
Mugabe's comments raised laughter at a ceremony attended by government officials, football fans and journalists at Harare international airport. He added: "When I hold the cup, I know all of you will have the urge that I should not let it go because this could be our gold."
Raymond Majongwe, secretary general of the Progressive Teachers Union of Zimbabwe, said Fifa should not have given Mugabe legitimacy.
He said: "It's a symbol of sporting excellence and the trophy every world leader craves to hold in their lifetime. They could have sent a political message by keeping it away from Zimbabwe. But with this, Mugabe was able to say the World Cup will come and go and he will still be there."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009...olds-world-cup
I can't believe they let such a corrupt, self-serving, dictatorship that is propped up by special interests to tarnish the image of the worlds greatest sports spectacle.
....and they probably shouldn't have let Mugabe hold it either.
they wrote to the argentina FA to make sure diego maradonna didnt show up at the draw as he is currently banned for 2 months yet allow mugabe get involved in the whole show. unreal!
And yet, does anyone really see this as a big surprise?Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
Diego Maradona - footballing legend, could waddle past most of today's greyhounds and dazzle us all even still, brought excitement to world football in the dreary cyncial footballing world post Fra 3-3 Schumacher's ar$e. Manager of a major nation. Passionate about the game, perhaps slightly more than a touch crazy. A controversial and outspoken figure. A thorn in the side of FIFA authority.
Robert Mugabe - inspirational leader turned dictator, responsible for the bankrupting of a powerful wealthy nation. His chief connection with football is through his nephew Leo Mugabe, former head of ZIFA. Fun Bobby likes to lay down the law and does not pay respect to any who challenge him. Sorts out his allies with favours, loves to make quips to the media about small scale problems to set them laughing and distracting them from various examples of collossal corruption. An inspiration to FIFA.
I see Blatter today calling on all players to respect the Fair Play principles, unless your one of the chsen few, and then it's ok, sure didnt I pull shirts as a player he sniggers