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21/03/2009, 12:00 PM
Youths4Ever

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Originally Posted by Lamper.sffc

456 confirmed on Sporting Fingal site.

do you know many the stand holds at full capacity?
21/03/2009, 1:21 PM
Sam_Heggy

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Originally Posted by gufc2000

According to extratime, the attendance at Terryland between Mervue and Finn Harps was 170. Big drop from two weeks ago

Yeah that would be about right, 30 or so Harps fans there.
21/03/2009, 2:31 PM
Buile Shuibhne

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Originally Posted by Black and White

They cant really like season ticket holders dont have their tickets stamped or are given a ticket or whatnot so whose to say every season ticket holder is guna show up to every game, there is no way unless they issue a receipt to everyone that passes through the turnstiles on a given night to get an official figure. But when clubs do give official figures, have any of ye ever wondered why they are always rounded up to the nearest 100 most of the time!ie 3500 or 4000!

Shels season ticket holders go thru a designated working turnstile which counts the total number of people.
As a cross-check the season ticket number is also ticked-off on a simple printed list, with in the case of family season tickets the number of family members attending that night marked off.

Separately in relation to family tickets - do Sporting Franchise count an arbitrary figure of 4, when calculating their attendances, for every one they sell?
21/03/2009, 2:46 PM
Candystripe

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

How did you get the official figure at half four in the morning?!

From a text message which I got earlier although when I charged my phone only then did I see the message. :rolleyes:

Seemed to be more kids than normal at the game in the uncovered side.Non paying side for them if accompanied by an adult.
21/03/2009, 3:07 PM
LeixlipRed

I'd say 800-1000 in the RSC last night. About 300 Shels fans included in that I would say too.
21/03/2009, 5:09 PM
Dunny

Official Dundalk V Drogheda attendance was 3,883.
21/03/2009, 5:35 PM
Black and White

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Originally Posted by Dunny

Official Dundalk V Drogheda attendance was 3,883.

Where did you get that from?
21/03/2009, 6:20 PM
JC_GUFC

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Originally Posted by Black and White

Where did you get that from?

From his scanner. Do you need to ask?!?!
21/03/2009, 7:43 PM
eamoss

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Originally Posted by Black and White

They cant really like season ticket holders dont have their tickets stamped or are given a ticket or whatnot so whose to say every season ticket holder is guna show up to every game, there is no way unless they issue a receipt to everyone that passes through the turnstiles on a given night to get an official figure. But when clubs do give official figures, have any of ye ever wondered why they are always rounded up to the nearest 100 most of the time!ie 3500 or 4000!

Em they are not official figures that is just the reporters guess at the attendance.

Last night attendance they counted the number of season ticket holders at the game. I'm not sure how they did it though.

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Originally Posted by Black and White

Where did you get that from?

OrielWeb
21/03/2009, 8:28 PM
Louth4sam

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Originally Posted by Kildare Lad

I think it was only that game and it was to cover for extra stewards and police at the game. Usually �10 in for an adult

What a crock of sh!t. You can either deal with a big crowd or you can't. Imagine the uproar if we charged more for games against Bohs or rovers than we did against Sligo and Galway. It was a sneaky act by Kildare to make more money and they even had the cheek to sell us tickets with �10 printed on them for �15. There was 1000 Dundalk fans there so even at �10 a head Kildare would have taken in 10k so don't try and tell me that that wouldn't cover the cost of whatever security was needed with a small fortune left over to go into the coffers.
21/03/2009, 8:29 PM
Louth4sam

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Originally Posted by Dunny

Official Dundalk V Drogheda attendance was 3,883.

Well in that case the Bohs figure seems too high as it was only around a couple of hundred more than the Drogs match. I'd say 4100 would be a more accurate figure.
21/03/2009, 9:44 PM
RoversHead

Ucd attendence

A few years ago i ran a food franchise in ucd and i offered free lunch to loi fans wearing their colours or producing a ucd ticket stub from the previos ucd home game,in a one month period i gave away six free lunches 3 pats fans and 3 of my beloved hoops brothers.its a graveyard always will be.
21/03/2009, 9:55 PM
sonofstan

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Originally Posted by CelticTiger

Recap (officials in bold)

Premier Division

Bohs v Rovers = 4,500
Bray v Galway = 1,300
Derry v Cork = 3,462
Dundalk v Drogheda = 3,883
Sligo v Pats = ?

PD average w/o Sligo-Pats game = [B]3,286.25

If we could get crowds like that every week, we might have a viable league
21/03/2009, 10:00 PM
Fribbler

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Originally Posted by sonofstan

If we could get crowds like that every week, we might have a viable league

I'd be sceptical of us holding up those kinds of figures. Our first two games were special; the first being our return to the premium/against the champions, and the second being the first proper (non-friendly) louth derby in yonks. Still, I share CelticTiger's sneaking optomism that this could be a good year for attendances. Recessions, ill winds etc.... :)
21/03/2009, 10:10 PM
gufc2000

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Originally Posted by CelticTiger

Recap (officials in bold)

Premier Division

Bohs v Rovers = 4,500
Bray v Galway = 1,300
Derry v Cork = 3,462
Dundalk v Drogheda = 3,883
Sligo v Pats = ?

First Division

Limerick v Athlone = 626
Mervue v Harps = ?
Fingal v Wexford = 456
UCD v Monaghan = 160
Waterford v Shels = 1,000?
Longford v Kildare = ?

PD average w/o Sligo-Pats game = 3,286.25

FD average so far = 560.5

Official attendance at Terryland was 170 as per extratime
21/03/2009, 11:38 PM
pete

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Originally Posted by sonofstan

If we could get crowds like that every week, we might have a viable league

Traditionally we have had some of the bigger crowds but I am not optimistic for the immediate future at the cross.

Not having a go at Bohs but not sure about the future of the league is so rosy when League Champions only get 2500 home fans for their biggest game of the season.
21/03/2009, 11:57 PM
sligoman

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Originally Posted by CelticTiger

Premier Division

Bohs v Rovers = 4,500
Bray v Galway = 1,300
Derry v Cork = 3,462
Dundalk v Drogheda = 3,883
Sligo v Pats = ?

First Division

Limerick v Athlone = 626
Mervue v Harps = 170
Fingal v Wexford = 456
UCD v Monaghan = 160
Waterford v Shels = 1,000
Longford v Kildare = ?

PD average w/o Sligo-Pats game = 3,286.25

FD average so far = 482.4

Anyone got Sligo-Pats or Longford-Kildare to complete it?

Why are you taking over pineapple stu's job?
22/03/2009, 2:07 AM
Rovers fan

Around 1600(or 1700) in the showgrounds I'd say. Poor enough.
22/03/2009, 8:02 AM
oriel

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Originally Posted by Louth4sam

Well in that case the Bohs figure seems too high as it was only around a couple of hundred more than the Drogs match. I'd say 4100 would be a more accurate figure.

Yeah 3,883 is def official for Drogs game.

Would also agree 4,500 too high for Bohs, I`d revise this down to 4,200 now.
22/03/2009, 8:48 AM
Dalymountrower

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Originally Posted by pete

Traditionally we have had some of the bigger crowds but I am not optimistic for the immediate future at the cross.

Not having a go at Bohs but not sure about the future of the league is so rosy when League Champions only get 2500 home fans for their biggest game of the season.

Of course your`re not!!!!!!. Bohs have a hard core fan base of around 2,000 with a travelling support as good as any in the league. We don`t get the fair weather fans that fleetingly successful provincial clubs attract. Not many neutral domestic football fans in Dublin unfortunately and that isn`t going to change without a significant European break through. I would be optimisic though that MNS and the improved coverage and improved football will bring in improved numbers. I would be delighted if we end up with an average of 2,500 by the end of the season for league games.
22/03/2009, 9:15 AM
gufc2000

Bray and Galway was 1000 according to extratime
22/03/2009, 10:05 AM
fionnsci

4,500 for Bohs-Rovers is surley too high. There were about 2,250 in the Jodi (it holds 2,750 and was quite empty on the left) and I doubt Rovers brought that same amount.
22/03/2009, 10:55 AM
Buller

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Originally Posted by fionnsci

4,500 for Bohs-Rovers is surley too high. There were about 2,250 in the Jodi (it holds 2,750 and was quite empty on the left) and I doubt Rovers brought that same amount.

We brought at least 2000 I would have guessed...

4500 sounds about right.
22/03/2009, 12:00 PM
LeixlipRed

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Originally Posted by CelticTiger

i like it :D

He doesnt seem to be doing it,if it bothers him that im doing it then he can tell me to step aside and i will

I hope he does. Because I said the Waterford attendance was 800-1000. You took the 1000 figure. So that shows me already you haven't any intention of trying to keep somewhat "accurate" figures.
22/03/2009, 12:50 PM
Lamper.sffc

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Originally Posted by Youths4Ever

do you know many the stand holds at full capacity?

It holds 800

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Originally Posted by Buile Shuibhne

Separately in relation to family tickets - do Sporting Franchise count an arbitrary figure of 4, when calculating their attendances, for every one they sell?

No. They use clickers to count the crowd
22/03/2009, 1:00 PM
LeixlipRed

Rubbish. There were random people selling tickets at both Fingal games last year. On their own as well, so unless they can dish out tickets, change and click all in the one move that's not true.
22/03/2009, 1:21 PM
holidaysong

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Originally Posted by oriel

I`d revise this down to 4,200 now.

That was my estimate for that game alright.
22/03/2009, 2:49 PM
dublinwanderer

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Originally Posted by gufc2000

Bray and Galway was 1000 according to extratime

definitly more than 1000 at the game.... The extratime reporter is based in the press box on the dart side of the ground, how can he tell how many people are in the dart side stand?

I'd would have said 800 in the rehab bingo stand (tent) plus 350 - 400 around the ground, total of 1150-1200. To be honest was a decent crowd, i was only expecting maybe around 700 in total!!!
22/03/2009, 3:17 PM
Schumi

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Originally Posted by LeixlipRed

Rubbish. There were random people selling tickets at both Fingal games last year. On their own as well, so unless they can dish out tickets, change and click all in the one move that's not true.

For our game there, they had someone tear a bit off the tickets as you go in so it should be easy to count them. I'm not sure what the procedure was for counting the number of season tickets holders who were at the game.
22/03/2009, 3:59 PM
Lamper.sffc

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Originally Posted by LeixlipRed

Rubbish. There were random people selling tickets at both Fingal games last year. On their own as well, so unless they can dish out tickets, change and click all in the one move that's not true.

Eh, No its not rubbish, its a fact.

So random people(plural) but they where on their own(singular) OK:confused:

I suppose its impossible for a steward to do it as people come in:rolleyes:, There has never been just one person at the entrances. Lets not start making up stuff now just so you can have a dig.
Its different set up for when shelcrashandburn come to morton anyway. The away fans go into the stand on the far side. The away fans for other teams get a section in the seated stand. But if you want to believe we are just making up the numbers out of thin air by all means do. What ever keeps you happy.:rolleyes:
22/03/2009, 5:08 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by Maribor

I'd say he got it a lot earlier, only got home to post it at that stage:D

His post was at 3:58, but he edited it with the updated figure 45 minutes earlier, so he must have gotten the figure in that time. But he clarified it later. Just thought it was funny is all!

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Originally Posted by jebus

As far as UCD are concerned, and I'm sure this won't be an original idea, but have the club never thought of moving their fixture to Thursday night? More college kids about on that night after all

We played on Thursdays in 2001/02. Didn't do much really. Though arguably the half season we tried it wasn't long enough to notice any changes.

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Originally Posted by Black and White

Has there being any major changes to UCD's attendances since they moved to the bowl?

The first few games of last season were almost all the biggest crowds we'd gotten for the respective games in the previous few seasons. Last season wasn't exactly conducive to building crowds!

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Originally Posted by CelticTiger

He doesnt seem to be doing it,if it bothers him that im doing it then he can tell me to step aside and i will

I'm not on the internet most weekends, and also I wait for all the figures to come in before updating. It doesn't bother me particularly, but it is silly duplicating the work (and leaving out the averages, which is the most important thing), so there's no point you adding more stuff to the thread.
22/03/2009, 5:10 PM
pineapple stu

Week 3 update. Usual notes apply.

PREMIER DIVISION
Bohs - 2,250 (2008 - 1,993; 2007 - 1,924; 2006 - 1,463; 2005 - 1,976; 2004 - 2,340)
Bray - 1,750 (1,106; 1,200; 1,027; 1,550; 818 FD)
Cork - 3,410 (3,142; 2,897; 2,941; 3,644; 4,033)
Derry - 3,281 (3,363; 2,614; 3,229; 2,698; 1,672)
Drogheda - 1,600 (1,631; 1,919; 1,751; 1,682; 1,554)
Dundalk - 4,042 (1,459 FD; 1,406 FD; 1,078 FD; 474 FD; 591 FD)
Galway - 1,426 (1,393; 2,199; 1,148 FD; 566 FD; 571 FD)
Pat's - 2,300 (1,795; 1,910; 1,342; 1,599; 1,882)
Rovers - 3,500 (1,468; 1,715; 1,089 FD; 1,539; 1,349)
Sligo - 1,800 (1,960; 1,448; 1,806; 1,794 FD; 781 FD)

FIRST DIVISION
Athlone - 680 (387; 670; 421; 316; 291)
Harps - 626 (1,607 PD; 1,164; 428; 1,347 PD; 1,106)
Kildare - 353 (241; 243; 265; 186; 298)
Limerick - 576 (517; 670; 364; 669; 188)
Longford - 600 (406; 885 PD; 681 PD; 1,004 PD; 1,131 PD)
Mervue - 410 (N/A)
Monaghan - 330 (177; 292; 204; 183; 182)
Shels - 1,077 (986; 888; 1,690 PD; 1,949 PD; 2,158 PD)
Sporting Fingal - 561 (688)
UCD - 190 (546 PD; 663 PD; 546 PD; 653 PD; 306)
Waterford - 710 (670; 1,181 PD; 915 PD; 1,513 PD; 1,753 PD)
Wexford - 780 (767; 810)

Premier Division average - 2,565 (1,746; 1,687; 1,535; 1,759; 1,853)
First Division average - 549 (641; 722; 570; 520; 512)

Overall average - 1,494 (1,221; 1,235; 1,070; 1,195; 1,218)
22/03/2009, 5:18 PM
holidaysong

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Originally Posted by jebus

As far as UCD are concerned, and I'm sure this won't be an original idea, but have the club never thought of moving their fixture to Thursday night? More college kids about on that night after all

Are you actually encouraging a club to play on a Thursday night? :eek:
22/03/2009, 5:42 PM
LeixlipRed

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Originally Posted by Lamper.sffc

So random people(plural) but they where on their own(singular) OK:confused:

Don't be such an arse. Random people selling tickets seperate of each other. Next time I'm up there I'll ask to see the clicker so.
22/03/2009, 6:02 PM
John83

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Originally Posted by RoversHead

A few years ago i ran a food franchise in ucd and i offered free lunch to loi fans wearing their colours or producing a ucd ticket stub from the previos ucd home game,in a one month period i gave away six free lunches 3 pats fans and 3 of my beloved hoops brothers.its a graveyard always will be.

Interesting. I was there for most of the period that could be described as "a few years ago" but never heard of this. Would you be willing to give any more detail?
22/03/2009, 6:24 PM
jebus

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Originally Posted by holidaysong

Are you actually encouraging a club to play on a Thursday night? :eek:

There could be an actual benefit for a club like UCD to do it

Dundalk had no reason bar hoping that some of the opposition's part time players couldn't get off work for the match
22/03/2009, 6:26 PM
pineapple stu

Should be noted as well that the FAI are dead against Thursday nights, but are willing to give us a special exemption.
22/03/2009, 6:37 PM
holidaysong

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Originally Posted by jebus

Dundalk had no reason bar hoping that some of the opposition's part time players couldn't get off work for the match

You've caught us out. :rolleyes:
22/03/2009, 6:40 PM
jebus

Hard to catch the blatantly obvious out in fairness
22/03/2009, 6:41 PM
gufc2000

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Originally Posted by dublinwanderer

definitly more than 1000 at the game.... The extratime reporter is based in the press box on the dart side of the ground, how can he tell how many people are in the dart side stand?

I'd would have said 800 in the rehab bingo stand (tent) plus 350 - 400 around the ground, total of 1150-1200. To be honest was a decent crowd, i was only expecting maybe around 700 in total!!!

Well ye went with extratime's att. for Galway and Dundalk of 1426, when it looked like there was more, so why not now?

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