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Didn't he win a peno too recently after being tripped following a neat drag back in the box???
Even excluding his throws he warrants a place in the squad. He's a player playing regularly for a premiershi[p club in a position we have little or no depth in...
Yes i know but still, you would imagine that it would at least put him off somewhat. I think thats how teams eventually countered that guy that was at Tranmere a few years back who had a similar throw.Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
So what?Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Talk about underestimating the qualities needed to fill that role..... I take it a central midfielder does not need positional sense, an ability to read the game or be able to collect and distribute the ball from defence to attack??Quote:
Originally Posted by ifk101
Delap is used by stoke for his freak throw to grind out results as they can't match most of the teams they play against in footballing ability otherwise. He is not an international standard player. Yes they have got a few good results from it but in the long run Stoke will finish in the bottom 5..........
We have better players, we want to qualify... we don't want to become a team which tries to sneak results by scoring from a long throw. We have to concentrate on beating teams by playing better football in all areas of the pitch.
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Originally Posted by Oink
Exactly, the long throw tatic may work for Stoke against footballing sides like Aresnal but it doesn't against tough teams down around the bottom who will defend them with ease.
Thats tactic with Ireland will not work against the likes of Cyprus and Bulgaria who like to get men behind the ball.
Stoke's luck with this tactic will run out and they will end up struggling this season. There are better Irish midfielders than Delap.
Does anyone know when he started using this long throw, I didnt watch much of him in the Championship in last couple of years but it not something I rememeber him having when he played for us in the past
I would imagine he has always done them, I think I read somewhere he used to be a javlin thrower?Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
D'ont care what S Ireland has said and done, we badly need him, we are bound to have the personal skills to get him back, he is one of the premerships best players and was best player on display last night in City's 3-2 win, him delap Carsley are all much better players than the current midfield jokers we had playing against Cyprus (fish out of water sprung to mind after watching them 2 last time). We need S Ireland big time!!!!
he threw the ball straight into the net against the Czech Republic when we won 2-1. Other than that, I don't think he got many opportunities under KerrQuote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Jokers that w had in mifield against Cyprus!! We had Glenn Whealan in there, who was man of the match in our first two games, cut him a bit of slack for an average performance.Quote:
Originally Posted by antrimgreen
Its quite obvious at this stage that Trap prefers playing two very defensive central midfielders with 2 quite offensive wingers. Now i rate S. Ireland as high as the next person but i still feel that Trap wouldnt be able to accomidate him in the team. We have to realise that we have had an excellent start to this campaign without Ireland. He has shown that he doesnt give two ****s about his country so we will have to forget about him
I remember him using it at Carlisle. He won a competition held by the magazine SHOOT! for having the longest throw in the football league. That must have been mid-90s. I think it was Carlisle that he was at anyway, may have been Derby.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Good news that he is in the squad for the Poland game.
I suppose you can say that he has thrown himself in to the squad.
How do you know? Has the squad been announced? I can't find it myself yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
I read Foot ie
But it is a 24 player squad, called a preliminary squad.
Delap was rightly blamed for allowing US center half Eddie Pope to score from a corner in a home friendly international in the late 90's. Delap stood still and never jumped with Pope. If he has improved that part of his game then he deserves a chance against Poland.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Delap's been known to play at Right Full also - could be worth a look there, as cover for Finnan.
It's out on Monday I read!
Finnan's appearances for Espanyol have been at Left Full. Which ever way round you play them I think they are better players than Delaney, Kilbane or Kelly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfie
Also - a long throw from the Full back position, if executed sparingly, can be equally effective from a defensive point of view.Quote:
Originally Posted by third policeman
Didnt play for them last night. They had the 2nd half on Sky. Not sure if he was on the bench or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by third policeman