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Well said! I was gonna nominate Neil's post about Sheffield and Limerick for post of the month (I've been to Sheffield not Limerick and the former is one hell of a dump), but I'll give it to the man who talks sense than the man who made me wet me panties.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeviathanNI
Finnan is a t*sser. He get's no sympathy from me.
Do you know what makes me laugh "supporters" who openly critise players who serve our country with distinction. Which in my opinion Finnan has done and what does he get a nice send off of "just doesn't want to play for his country anymore". Thats absolute crap. If your looking for someone who "just doesn't want to play for his country anymore" I suggest you check out Stevie Irelands thread. Oh and the retiring thing, I don't recognise Liverpool as a football club more a soap opera and a bad one at that... So for me he is retiring from football.Quote:
Originally Posted by Armando
I always had my doubts about Finnan.
I don't watch liverpool.
Still, an important player for us in the circumstances and a loss to the team..
disgusted with him, don't get the mentality, but we move on.
Why are you disgusted with him? Why would you doubt him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bottle of Tonic
Why don't you read the whole thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by shanman2
There are enough posts explaining why. You don't have to agree with them but I would've thought you may have grasped why people feel the way they do.
:confused: didnt affect other senior players like carsley, given and kilbaneQuote:
Originally Posted by Ciaran
heh yeah it did-carsley retired! came back though. this is getting more posts because finnan is viewed as such a great player whereas at the time carsley wasnt. its never too late to change your mind and he may well change his.
Players annoucing retirement and then coming back is very popular these days. i'll reserve judgement till i know all the facts...
In fairness to Carsley, his reasons for retirement were understandable, he has a young kid with down syndrome i think it is and he was spending a good deal of time away from the kid with Ireland whilst never getting a look again. When he was needed again, he answered to call and has said he will continue to do so. If anything Carsley should be more worried about his position at Everton than Finnan at L'pool.Quote:
Originally Posted by as_i_say
I thought Finnan's interview in the Indo today with Vincent Hogan was pretty fair.
The headline suggests it's a case of yet another player complaining of criticism but all he really said was that yes, the atmosphere is more critical but when it gets personal it has gone too far (presumably the "Stan is a Muppet" fiasco in the tabloids).
The laziest player ever to play for Ireland let hope not:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Ciaran
Was Finnan signed by houllier could there be history there?Quote:
Originally Posted by ruben_sosa
Served his country with distinction? he's a footballer for feck sake not in the army, lets get things in perspective. I'm all for giving players a good send off if they deserve it, but when you give people like Finnan a good send off then it cheapens it for the players that really deserve it. How does Stephen Ireland not wanting to play for Ireland prove that Finnan served his country with distinction anyway? If every player had Stephen Irelands attitude then you might have a point but thankfully we're not at that point, yetQuote:
Originally Posted by shanman2
Nothing of the sort, he was just waiting for things to settle before he made his announcement, this was in his mind since the end of last season supposedly.Quote:
I'm dissapointed but I have to say in my heart of hearts I don't blame him.. The timing of this is very telling if you ask me.. Where was these sentiments after the Cyprus game. To me it sounds like he was committed then... But committment works both ways and blind commitment to anything in any walk of life is folly. What has he seen from those cowboys in the FAI since to warrant him jepardising the remainder of his club career at one of the biggest clubs in the world... It works both ways lads. I'm all for patriotism and passion and players retiring early really grinds me gears. But everyone has to be pulling in the same direction.... To me it's a side effect of the ballsology goings on in the FAI.
some of the comments on this thread make me sick
i would be very surpised if ireland didnt come back under the new manager. i really think that finnan could have stayed on a bit longer though. we really need him as well which is the most disappointing thing. our defense now has only one really outstanding player in Dunne.
aye its a shame. he could have at least hung around for a bit longer to see who was appointed and perhaps had a chat about his future, like forget about friendlies and play the important games at least. maybe if that was the case then people wouldnt see him as a disgrace now.
I'd rather have 4 OK defenders than 1 outstanding defender and 3 weak links though, I'm not as convinced Ireland will return under a new manager either, not as critical a loss as Finnan but he was capable of scoring crucial goals even if he didn't contribute much else.
I think it's only a matter of time before Ireland returns.
Thats the way I see it. Not going to go castigating him over it. Just move on and be done with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by lowroadrover
If I was dropped for Steven Carr I would moan and moan a lot.If I was our best player at the Japan World Cup and then got switched or dropped for Steven Carr I would moan and never show up again!!!