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Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob
Only one way to solve this one now. We all go for a pint at the end of the season, get the debate going until tempers rise a bit. Then I'll wrestle ten of you and reef you down on to your arses. If even one of you can keep your leg frozen after impact I'll concede that Richie Towell was attempting to kick the lad in the face and is just so bad at kicking that he couldn't connect. Pints on me if so.
As there is no conclusive evidence from either video reviewed; Towell’s guilt is based solely on the opinion of the linesman , which at best is just an opinion but not proven fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
So if you can’t prove the incident occurred despite having video evidence then natural justice means you have to allow the appeal .
What’s become very clear from this is that the clubs have agreed to an appeal process that is a farce and biased and doesn’t lend itself to the application of due process underpinned by a set of fair procedures….. a first year law student will tell you that if challenged in court it would most likely be thrown out….. with costs awarded to the party taking the case….. I’m disappointed there’s no sign of Rovers/a number of clubs doing that, hopefully behind the scenes they’ll threaten that to use as leverage to have a fair process put in place.
Otherwise refs and assistants know they are immune from any correction so will continue to operate at their current mediocre arrogant level to the detriment of all clubs.
Has that bit every been explained by Derry? It seemed awful at the time. Lad was in tears.Quote:
Originally Posted by Philosophizer
But lots of us have said Towell does appear to kick out in the video.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calcio Jack
But ... what did we do for the 125 years or so before we had video evidence?Quote:
Originally Posted by Calcio Jack
Now, I'm no expert, so this is a layman's question and not a smart-ar5e dig (you're not usually the type to deserve that CJ, though I do think you're a bit het-up about this) - but would the same first year law student also tell you that you don't challenge this kind of thing in the courts? You sign up to the same rules and processes that every other club has has signed up to, and you can appeal, or try to, all the way to CAS?
I haven’t heard any explanation.Quote:
Originally Posted by ontheotherhand
That article in the Derry Journal does have one very notable paragraph…
“The Derry City medical team have been extremely cautious in terms of Whelan's rehabilitation since arriving at the club and gently introduced him into full training having undergone and passed all the necessary tests in recent months.”
I wouldn’t have any doubt that the medical team did everything right. Medics are generally like that - they do whatever they can to protect the player.
But Higgins made the call to keep him on the pitch that time, which was foolish in the extreme. The lad could easily have done further serious damage playing on in that state.
The reason I keep referring to a court challenge is partly to demonstrate that the appeals process is flawed and therefore wouldn’t stand up up to scrutiny in a court… Legal advice would be that you’d win…. Business advice most likely is that it would be a pyrrhic victory , so you wouldn’t take it on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eminence Grise
yes all the clubs signed up however what is now clear imo is (1) they signed up to a set of unfair procedures (2) unless changed all clubs going forward will suffer under this.
I’m not overly ‘het-up’ I’m just one of those people who does get agitated when I encounter flawed one sided unfair conditions ( even if the clubs signed up to them still doesn’t make them right) that allow one party to exercise coercive control over another whilst pretending that both sides are operating on level playing field ( bad pun intended). I guess growing up in this country in the 60s/70s I’ve (rightly) had little or no respect for most institutions .
Anyway roll on Friday and we’ll get the latest round in the referring debacle 2023 and hopefully some great games as well.
Ps what did we do for 125 years before video evidence…. The same as we did before dna, fingerprinting etc. not being smart in other words you can only use the tools available at any given time
Gutted for him, hasn't had any luck this season. Has been a quality player for us, massively underrated at that, but that'll probably be the last time he plays for us you'd imagine.Quote:
Originally Posted by joey B
Leaves us extremely light at the back now. Grivosti, Redmond, Sjoberg, Brockback out injured with McGrath having just been announced as about to be released by Coventry so who knows if he stays on. Might be a ropey next few weeks for us.
What legal advice?Quote:
Originally Posted by Calcio Jack
From my inner solicitorQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Well you know what they say about the person who represents himself :)
And the shoemaker’s son didn’t always go barefoot ?Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Is it time to bring up the even worse calls to send off Kenny and Hoare or........?
Tommy Barrett "One of our players is a postman and he did 18,000 steps before we played Galway. The Galway boys were up sunning themselves, relaxing."
Awful for Grivosti, especially after just coming back. Not sure why you reckon hel’ll be leaving, but I suppose you could be right. We are worryingly bare at the back now . If Sjoberg is out for any length of time it’s a full blown crisis. We might just get by with him at right back, Sam Curtis and McGrath in the centre and Breslin left back. Other than that we’ve only got Noah Lewis, who has looked shaky. I wonder will we bring in anyone else ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack B
Id say that’s an absolute certainty to be honest. I think we needed another defender in the door even before Grivosti's injury. With the money that's up for grabs in Europe in terms of getting through a round this summer as well as qualification for next season, we'd be kissing goodbye to chances of either without bringing in a centre back of starting 11 quality in the window.Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyD
He's out of contract at the end of the season and has an injury that usually takes around 6-9 months to return from, can't see us giving him a new deal in the off season at that rate.Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyD
Not cruciate, it seems, but he's out for the season. Crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by ontheotherhand
Ah that's brutal. Speedy recovery to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by brendy_éire