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There's 2. Cork have negotiated the first and are now through to the 2nd. Btw this coefficient is worked out by dividing the total number of points earned by a country's clubs divided by the number of clubs. At the qualifying stage clubs get 1 point for a draw and 2 for a win. As Ireland has three clubs those points are divided by three.Quote:
Originally Posted by -Bray-
i actualy feel quite sorry for the fans in general they are a loyal bunch and always up for the craic its not their fault their manager and team are tacticly inept
Yes but most of them defend the team and the results they get. Vaduz is still seen as some sort of ok defeat??
They allow this to go on because they dont put pressure on Matthews. He should walk away after that. Whats the point !!
id like to see them try and defend this result
Matthews will put it down to a "crazy 15 minute spell, were they managed to snatch 3 very fortunate goals"Quote:
Originally Posted by exile
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Originally Posted by dancinpants
Feel sorry for all the lads and lassies who made the trip to support them and see that sort of a result. An absolute collapse and from what I could make out with the commentary on the radio they just seemed sloppy and careless with no real drive. :(
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Originally Posted by RonnieB
Thats bloody awful...if I were a Longford fan I'd be lookin' for heads (and plenty of them) on plates :mad:
I cannot wait to hear some of the chants that will be aimed at them now. That said, I hope they all die and never get to play in front of paying fans again - its just too much to ask for.
After all the progress and hope, after the great results in recent times, summer football, increased crowds, more TV, more money, and then, 5-1 and 1-0. Terrible, terrible, terrible day for the eL and it's not just Longford, Cork lost 1 nil at home against a crowd they beat 2-0 away. That is terrible, if a club has any ambition whatsoever it would push for two wins, especially if the first one was 2-0 away. Can this be placed squarely at the managers doorstep? I don't think the Longford result can be, but maybe the Cork one, if you're not going to go out to win a game, don't go out at all. What is the ****ing story with managers sitting back? How many times do they need to be bitten in the arse to know that it's not gonna work. Hard to argue with the barstoolers saying the league is ****e now.
****'s sake.
Am I the only one who couldn't give a monkies about how other teams do in Europe? :confused:
Co-efficient schmoefficient I say........ People on here talk in reverential terms about the coefficient as some kind of Holy Grail that deserves respect and constant monitoring, cogitating and the like. WTF?
I'm bemused by the heartfelt abuse directed at Longford by supporters of various other clubs on here.
I'll start caring about Europe the next time Derry qualify and until then I have a passing interest at best.
Lads take a chill pill and direct your energy towards supporting your own team, rather than pouncing on one club who have had a few bad results in Europe in succession.
Have you any memories? Our recent European successes are a blip in a longer history of downright failure interspersed with highpoints of mediocrity.
If you listen to some of the crap spouted on here you'd think we were realistic contenders to win something......
The point is we're trying to progress so it wont just be a 'blip'.
It's impossible to do that with displays like tonight in Wales.
The next time Derry qualify will probably be this season and you'll be thankful for the seeding you'll get if the coefficient goes up. We all want the eL teams to do well as it'll raise the profile of the league and hopefully in turn the quality as a whole.
So you'd happily start off unseeded in the first round, when the potential is there to start further in and be seeded, with better chances of making the higher stages? Or is that irrelevant, co-efficients are how UEFA rank the leagues and decide all this, it effects every team. Christ, god forbid, Lonford might even make it into Europe again some day!Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
To be honest I don't really care. Obviously an unseeded team would give us a better chance of progressing, but still have to beat whoever we play and to be honest I'm more concerned with our mediocre record in Europe than some other club's performances.Quote:
Originally Posted by EnDai
I'm no fan of Longford's but I'd leave the bitter recriminations to their fans who don't need to be told how to feel.
And as was pointed out above, we all had a chance to ensure they weren't in Europe, as the last time I checked every club was in the hat for the 2nd round draw of the cup.
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Originally Posted by EnDai
There still in the FAI cup! :eek:
Of course we back our own clubs but a healthy EL is good for us all and that defeat to the Welsh crowd won't do ANY club in the EL good.Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
Past defeats should be a lesson to improve and not an excuse to be content with minimal progress.
It's not always abuse - we care about clubs representing us and wish them to do well. Criticism is a vital ingredient. If/When Derry City get into Europe next season - most of us will be shouting for you guys - not too sure about the Harps fans. :D
I agree with you about all that co-efficient stuff though -I leave it up to the other Footiepersons to explain it to me- too much maths involved,
Longford do the League proud once again. :D
Vaduz, last year, Carmarthen this, who's next, a bunch of goat herders from Albania. :D
Roll on Kazakhstan. :p
They should hold their heads in shame and if they get into Europe next season I'll be sick to my stomach :mad: :mad: :mad:
First and foremost, I went into tonights games with an air of expectation. Well done Cork for starters. They went into the tie as the unseeded team and came out winners. A good achievement and I hope they get a super tie next round. (either a nice money spinner or an easy tie). Longford have shamed us as Pats did with eth 10-0 and how we did against Hibernians. This however is worse because I can safely say that Longford were 2-0 up. Part timers out of season and against a team who are suppose to be in the middle of their season. Woeful. Its actually embarrassing to go to work tomorrow and I am a shels fan.
Cork City - WELL DONE.