shels or linfield

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Originally Posted by Da Real Rover

Allright i will repeat this again for you gspain. The fans make a club and so what if we jeered your team and im sure yev done the same and some alot worse. The fact is that the club is represented by the fans who support it whether the board or other fans like it.

That has got to be one of the most stupid arguments i have ever heard. What the **** does Ray Mc Sharry got ta do with Rovers. So what he goes to the games, ive said this before that on the whole, irish clubs dont have any real political allegiance because on the whole irish fans dont give a **** about politics, but on the continent its different.

You dont honestly believe that its just 50 fans that have given Linfield one of the most notorious names in Irish football, its just ridiculous thinking its only 50. As i said before Linfield have made an effort to eradicate its bigoted element and so have some of the fans. just like Lazio they have gone to pains to remove the hardcore right wing element in its club, but everyone still sees the Swatstikas and hears the hissing noise of the fans. Now im sure the majority of Lazio fans are not Fascist but that does not mean we expect Jews to go to the games and treat it like any regular club. Im not being a bigot by having a bias against Linfield and if you think i am then i guess your calling Jews being bigots against Lazio and blacks being bigots agains Real Madrid.

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The vast majority of Linfield fans are decent football fans as are the vast majority of Sligo Rovers fans.

It was about 50 in Longford singing sectarian songs - maybe there is a hardcore of 200-300 that do this regularly and cause trouble. Shamrock Rovers and Bohs have similiar issues with a minority of their fans.

Linfield FC do not have any sectarian or racist policies (they most likely did have a sectarian policy from 1950-1988 possibly 93). They are now actively involved in community projects such as Dunfield.

After the Longford game they club put a hard hitting editorial in their programme condemning the minority of bigots who sang those songs.

I want Shels toi win on saturday night ebcause they represent our league.

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Originally Posted by BohDiddley

Sorry wws, but you've given me an irresistible excuse for a foray into one of my pet themes and, unfortunately, one that upsets those among us who want to have it both ways (in sport, not religion I mean).
Prods don't play GAA. :eek:
Yes, yes, yes, I know that there are bound to be exceptions, but the old bogball is largely preserve of the pro-Pope lot.
That gives the monarch-lovers something of a headstart at the beautiful game, don't you think?

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Not that it matters but Linfield will probably field 4 or 5 Catholics tomorrow night

There are plenty of other topics on here highligting GAA bigotry rather than drag this one down that rathole.

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Originally Posted by Speranza

Despite what Mr Parker has said I applaud the board of Linfield for their absolute condemnation of the minority of neandrothals who spout their rubbish, they have the dunfield project with Dundalk and let that GAA team use Windsor. The modern board seems to have moved away from their clear anti-cathlolic nature of the past. The problem still seems to be the fans and the toleration (check ILF) of songs which will disgust any right thinking person. Like why do Linfield have supporters clubs throughout the 6 counties including places with Irish league teams? It's because they are still seen as a Rangers feeder club and that is sad.

On this occasion and only this occasion I will support the $heliban while being utterly disgusted with myself.

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While I agree with most of what you are saying your statement on Supporters Clubs beggars belief.

Linfield have Supporters clubs all over NI because they are the big team - the glamour team and they are successful. Mamchester United have SCs all over Kewnt, Milton Keynes etc. Juventus have fans all over Italy, Real Madrid all over Spain.......

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Originally Posted by gspain

Not that it matters but Linfield will probably field 4 or 5 Catholics tomorrow night

There are plenty of other topics on here highligting GAA bigotry rather than drag this one down that rathole.

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Sorry. You're quite right. I was just indulging my pet rant. Got pulled out of position a bit, so to speak!

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Originally Posted by gspain

maybe there is a hardcore of 200-300 that do this regularly and cause trouble. Shamrock Rovers and Bohs have similiar issues with a minority of their fans

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I agree with the general thrust of what you're saying. But I don't think this is a fair comparison. We certainly do not have a 'hard core' of 200-300 hooligans. Maybe 20 dimwit tops, who appear to be mostly famous for being rather fleet of foot and who are regarded as a joke at best by others Bohs fans.
I can't speak for the shams, but the only time we see dogs, horses and riot gear is when we play them.

I don't really know much about Shels, but from what people are saying they are pretty well off, and Linfield aren't short of a pound or two (i.e 15% of revenue from every NI international at Windsor). So would it be true to say that the two clubs in Ireland who LEAST need the money are in the final?? :confused:

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Originally Posted by Speranza

Despite what Mr Parker has said

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Like to explain what you are refering to?

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Originally Posted by Andyh

I don't really know much about Shels, but from what people are saying they are pretty well off, and Linfield aren't short of a pound or two (i.e 15% of revenue from every NI international at Windsor). So would it be true to say that the two clubs in Ireland who LEAST need the money are in the final?? :confused:

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I don't think there's a team in this Island that doesn't need the money to be fair.

Mr Parker, I was refering to your comment on the Linfield board stating their pride in their unionist past. I know you don't like Derry but we're not all out to get you :)

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Originally Posted by Speranza

Mr Parker, I was refering to your comment on the Linfield board stating their pride in their unionist past. I know you don't like Derry but we're not all out to get you :)

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My post was not so much a comment but a statement of fact.

As for Derry, after Cliftonville finally received their long overdue payment from DC I might start to like you "wans" just a little ;)