Squad for Poland game

Knowing Trap, he won't make many substitutions anyway.
He'll go with his strongest 11. What will be interesting to see is who he will choose in central midfield. Hopefully Andrews gets a game and I predict he'll start.

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Originally Posted by Billy-Green

Will this selection make all the trap arse lickers change their opinion of him?

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That depends on the results, there are plenty you are 'quietly disgruntled' at
moment, one bad performance and those opinions will be expressed somewhat
louder. Trap is putting his head on the chopping block with this selection.
I wonder what the other team members think about it?

Perhaps, he really is just an Italian 'double agent' ??

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Originally Posted by tricky_colour

I wonder what the other team members think about it?

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I'd say there all prity confused. Stephen Hunt will prob be very p*ssed off knowing his bro should be there.

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Originally Posted by Billy-Green

Are you mental, you'd start Folan ahead of Doyle? The more game time Keane and Doyle get together the better

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I think we need to experiment a bit more, and Robbie does well with a target-man type player. I'm not saying Folan should be ahead of Doyle, he shouldn't, but I think it might be useful for Robbie (who, let's face it, as captain will never be dropped and rarely subbed) to get used to another strike partner who will offer something a little different. I'd like Doyle to still get some game time though.

He doesn't go to matches.
He doesn't pick players on form.
He has frozen out our most creative player.
He doesn't even know some of the players names.


How can people say they are happy with results so far, we beat a poor georgian team, a cypriot team with lots of injuries and drew with a team who had played a total of 11 games together in their history.

He was hounded out of the Italy job because of his boring negative tactics. He had a great career and maybe 10 years ago he would have been a good choice, but if he was such a great coach he would have been coaching at a higher level than Red Bull Salzburg.

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Originally Posted by weldoninhio

He doesn't go to matches. agree
He doesn't pick players on form. agree
He has frozen out our most creative player. agree
He doesn't even know some of the players names. Cant comment


How can people say they are happy with results so far, we beat a poor georgian team, a cypriot team with lots of injuries and drew with a team who had played a total of 11 games together in their history.agree

He was hounded out of the Italy job because of his boring negative tactics. He had a great career and maybe 10 years ago he would have been a good choice, but if he was such a great coach he would have been coaching at a higher level than Red Bull Salzburg.

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agree

At least you are not afraid to let rip with you opinion unlike half the sheep on this board. Sad to say but you are correct. I don’t think that Staunton would have done any worse to be honest and certainly Kerr and McCarthy could have done better,

[quote=Ciaran;1056036]More people calling for Fahey than Carsley to be in the squad is a typical example of why Foot.ie don't have respected opinions in soccer circles.




Its because people like you who post on it know sod all about the game, no other reason.

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Originally Posted by weldoninhio

He doesn't go to matches.
He doesn't pick players on form.
He has frozen out our most creative player.
He doesn't even know some of the players names.


How can people say they are happy with results so far, we beat a poor georgian team, a cypriot team with lots of injuries and drew with a team who had played a total of 11 games together in their history.

He was hounded out of the Italy job because of his boring negative tactics. He had a great career and maybe 10 years ago he would have been a good choice, but if he was such a great coach he would have been coaching at a higher level than Red Bull Salzburg.

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The fundamental thing that was missing in the Staunton and Kerr eras was organisation. At least with Trap we have that. Each player seems to know exactly what there job is. Even though the 2nd half against Cyprus was fairly shambolic. Would agree with most the points ur making though

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Originally Posted by Ciaran

More people calling for Fahey than Carsley to be in the squad is a typical example of why Foot.ie don't have respected opinions in soccer circles.

My view on the squad? meh. People need to narrow their view, who he calls into a 24 man squad to make up the numbers doesn't matter at all, they're never going to get off the bench or have any impact so I think it's a non issue of who he hands the filler roles to.

It's disapointing that he hasn't recalled Carsley and dropping Reid and Murphy totally is perplexing but I think those 3 are the only real issues here. It's certainly no "shambles" or anything near as dramatic, it's a friendly squad where we'll probably get little more out of it than seeing if Keith Andrews is better than Gibson which he probably is.

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What soccer circles are these, centre circle or what.

As someone said earlier, it seems the way into the senior squad now is through the B squad. Every player in this squad has worked with Trap before.

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Originally Posted by Guidedbyvoices

I know sod all? So what Fahey is a better player than Carsley? Well then..

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Cant compare. Totally different players but imo both should be in the squad along with Reid, McGann, Garvan, St Ledger, McCarthy Hunt and Walters.

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Originally Posted by eirebhoy

As someone said earlier, it seems the way into the senior squad now is through the B squad. Every player in this squad has worked with Trap before.

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How often are the B squad going to get together ?

Worrying signs indeed.

I'm fine with disagreeing on a few backup players, but it's getting a bit silly now.

I'd like to see Westwood in as the 2nd/3rd keeper over Murphy.

N. Hunt has to be in over Long.

I'm not even going to talk about Andy Reid anymore...

Carsley needs to be in there, and Delap should have been brought in to look at, even in a training capacity.

Hopefully Andrews gets a run out and can establish himself in centre midfield- if we play Whelan and Gibson together again I'll probably die of a heart attack before half-time.

The squad is a fantastic advert



.. for rugby

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Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia

The squad is a fantastic advert



.. for rugby

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I wouldnt go that far...

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Originally Posted by Guidedbyvoices

Add 6 newcomers into a settled squad in the middle of a campaign who'll have no other impact than sitting on the bench. Brilliant, why didn't Trap think of this?!?

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wouldnt have brought in the 6 of them but definately 2 or 3 should have been brought in to have a look to give ourselves more options if and when we need it. otherwise if we get a load of injuries for one of the qualifiers we will have to bring in lads that have never been looked at at International level. Friendlies are only of use to look at things like that because most of the time established players just stroll through the game

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Originally Posted by Ciaran;1056066
Add 6 newcomers into a settled squad in the middle of a campaign who'll have no other impact than sitting on the bench. Brilliant, why didn't Trap think of this?!?


Its a friendly ffs.[B

Do you know why we have friendlies?[/B] No you probably don’t so it proves my original point that you don’t have a clue do you? Good night.

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The real reason all Football Associations have Friendlies is to secure revenue.....the blooding of new players,practising new formations etc is secondary.

In fact, as most Clubs (and it seems the players too) do not want International Friendlies, and go out of their way at times to "arrange" slight knocks/niggles to players so that they are not risked in what they deem meaningless games.

The fact is the centre midfield is power puff & will cost us dearly sooner or later. Probably sooner.

He should have taken a look at what A Reid can offer. He should also have taken a look at the likes of Garvan, Delap, McCann and McCarthy. At least these guys get a game for their clubs - unlike the current favoured pair.

The omission of N Hunt & St Ledger is very strange too.

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Originally Posted by Sligo Hornet

The real reason all Football Associations have Friendlies is to secure revenue.....the blooding of new players,practising new formations etc is secondary.

In fact, as most Clubs (and it seems the players too) do not want International Friendlies, and go out of their way at times to "arrange" slight knocks/niggles to players so that they are not risked in what they deem meaningless games.

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Yes. That may or may not be the case, but I would have thought that Trap as manager with a mind of his own would want the best from his managerial stint. If this is the case surely he would like to look at players who have the potential to make his team better? If he sees something in the likes of Miller, Stokes, Bruce and some of the other numphies he has brought along there is something seriously wrong]

I for one would rather go to a match to watch the likes of Garvan, McCann, McCarthy St Ledger and Noel Hunt and I am sure there are many more like me.

It will be interesting to see how many of the current squad pull out. Not too many me thinks.It will be their only chance to play a bit of football this season.