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25/08/2011, 1:51 PM
elroy

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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

I reckon McGeady will withdraw from the senior squad and McCarthy will be called up as central midfield cover, with Fahey & Lawrence being promoted up the wide-midfield roster. McGeady never had any chance of making it and this is Trap's way of giving McCarthy the Robert de Niro fingers-to-eyes gesture, while still having him in the senior squad.

How's that for scheming?

I think this is likely to happen but one way or another he would want to show for either the U21s or the senior if called up.

Like in fairness, James is a great prospect, yes. But really is no more than that at the moment. I really want to see him do well and progress but hes hardly of such a talent right now (i.e. Roy Keane) that he would deserve special attention. Ive seen him play a few times and yes he looks good. But I havent seen anything to say he is going to be a world class player, not yet anyways. He is young and hopefully will progress, but he also needs to show respect to playing for Ireland, as do the certain others who have rather suspectly cried off in recent times.
25/08/2011, 2:25 PM
Charlie Darwin

It's funny that only a few months ago people were hammering Trap for not calling him up senior squads when he'd already withdrawn from the U21s. How times change.
25/08/2011, 2:37 PM
tommy_c12000

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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

It's funny that only a few months ago people were hammering Trap for not calling him up senior squads when he'd already withdrawn from the U21s. How times change.

The only thing that has changed for me is McCarthy's form in that time. He has been very poor in the last 6 mths and doesn't merit a place in the team for me. If he was presently in good form, I'd be back to hammering Trap for being so petulant!!
25/08/2011, 2:51 PM
DannyInvincible

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Originally Posted by an_ceannaire

The mistake ye are all making is this. Ye seem to think McCarthy is bothered. I genuinely think he is on a self destruction mission. I think he has no interest in playing for Trap and is probably only too delighted to be dropped. I'd say he really couldnt care less.

He's played for Trap on three occasions. If he had no interest in playing for us, why would he have bothered?
25/08/2011, 3:05 PM
tetsujin1979

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Originally Posted by an_ceannaire

The mistake ye are all making is this. Ye seem to think McCarthy is bothered. I genuinely think he is on a self destruction mission. I think he has no interest in playing for Trap and is probably only too delighted to be dropped. I'd say he really couldnt care less.

If he couldn't care less, he wouldn't have declared in the first place.
26/08/2011, 9:44 AM
Stuttgart88

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...chester-united

With Darron Gibson injured, that's surely McCarthy's call up. The slap on the wrist has been given.
26/08/2011, 10:43 AM
Kingdom

He has to be called up now. There is a very real possibility Whelan will get a booking on Friday, which would mean a suspension.
27/08/2011, 10:45 AM
tommy_c12000

Dropped for today's game V QPR. No surprises there
27/08/2011, 12:30 PM
greendeiseboy

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Originally Posted by tommy_c12000

Dropped for today's game V QPR. No surprises there

Is he on the bench? If he's not it means he's injured as was reported during the week. Expect the customary withdrawl if so.
27/08/2011, 12:36 PM
tommy_c12000

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Originally Posted by greendeiseboy

Is he on the bench? If he's not it means he's injured as was reported during the week. Expect the customary withdrawl if so.

Ya he's on the bench alrite. Still no subs on
27/08/2011, 1:07 PM
Predator

I hope he turns up for the U21s, but I'm not sure where he'll fit in exactly, especially considering that he hasn't featured in any of the warm up games.
27/08/2011, 1:16 PM
greendeiseboy

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Originally Posted by tommy_c12000

Ya he's on the bench alrite. Still no subs on

Yip, just saw that, forgot it was an early kick off. Well he was obviously fit. The ball is firmly in his court now to show intent and show up for the match or if he's called up to the senior squad to do likewise.

No excuses now.
29/08/2011, 12:00 PM
cufc champions

Enda Brady reporting that James McCarhty has indeed joined up with the Irish u21's this morning.
30/08/2011, 12:00 AM
Sullivinho

McCarthy has no issue with manager

Quote:

�There was just a mix up. I was injured in the last game of the Premier League season and that was why I didn�t come across. Things may have been said in the paper but quotes can be taken out of context, too. I�ve no issue with anyone. I love playing for Ireland. And I�m happy to be here with the under-21s. I want to win as many caps as I can for the under-21s and seniors. It is my ambition to do as well as I can.�
30/08/2011, 1:08 AM
Crosby87

So it's cleared up again. Until something happens in the next 8 days to make it muddled of course. :skeleton::pizza::yin-yang:
30/08/2011, 8:22 AM
tetsujin1979

McCarthy dismisses talk of Trap rift ahead of U-21 qualifier campaign: http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...n-2860659.html
30/08/2011, 8:40 AM
elroy

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

McCarthy dismisses talk of Trap rift ahead of U-21 qualifier campaign: http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...n-2860659.html

Sometimes I wonder do the media in this country just want to create trouble in the Irish camp. Headline on the sports news on today fm this morning, Trap warns Irish players about going drinking and breaking curfew. Now if you actually read the quotes what he said was he has no problem with lads having a few beers a good few days before the match once it is done within their rules. And he was responding to a journo's question - not like Trap started the conversation and was sending out a "warning" to the players.
30/08/2011, 8:59 AM
Alf Honn

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Originally Posted by elroy

Sometimes I wonder do the media in this country just want to create trouble in the Irish camp. Headline on the sports news on today fm this morning, Trap warns Irish players about going drinking and breaking curfew. Now if you actually read the quotes what he said was he has no problem with lads having a few beers a good few days before the match once it is done within their rules. And he was responding to a journo's question - not like Trap started the conversation and was sending out a "warning" to the players.

Not so, according to 2 papers.

Irish Times:
Trapattoni initially brought up the players� behaviour without any prompting but the topic was revisited several times over the course of his first press conference of the week, in part because there seems to be little at this stage to be concerned about on the fitness front.

Examiner:
But, rather more unexpected, since he volunteered the information himself, was the revelation that the manager had called a meeting of the players before the recent friendly against Croatia in which he asked them to be more responsible about their drinking habits.
30/08/2011, 7:48 PM
greendeiseboy

Eh................"The young Scot".......you have to love the Indo
30/08/2011, 8:24 PM
Fixer82

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Originally Posted by greendeiseboy

Eh................"The young Scot".......you have to love the Indo

Well he is. i mean it doesn't make him less Irish. Aldridge is a Liverpudlian but still wouldn't debate his pride in playing for Ireland. These players are really dual nationality.

Just watch Townsend commentating on an England game ...the word 'we' is use a lot
31/08/2011, 9:13 AM
AlaskaFox

When Houghton scored that header against England in 88, I think Hamilton called him a Scot.
31/08/2011, 9:48 AM
DannyInvincible

When Houghton scored that "chipper" against Italy in '94, the ESPN commentator called us England. (Not sure what the moral of that is.)
31/08/2011, 10:32 AM
pineapple stu

I think the moral of that story is that we need to find that footage on YouTube.
31/08/2011, 11:37 AM
osarusan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXauYVy_dws
02/09/2011, 12:02 PM
del_carroll

U21

"The second half was slightly scrappier than the first half but Ireland maintained their domination and had a strong penalty claim when it looked as if captain James McCarthy had been pulled down in the box, but the claims were waved away by the referee."

Got this off the web; apart from that contribution, does anyone have any info on how mccarthy performed during the week?
02/09/2011, 1:05 PM
elroy

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Originally Posted by del_carroll

"The second half was slightly scrappier than the first half but Ireland maintained their domination and had a strong penalty claim when it looked as if captain James McCarthy had been pulled down in the box, but the claims were waved away by the referee."

Got this off the web; apart from that contribution, does anyone have any info on how mccarthy performed during the week?

Was listening to off the ball last night, some guy texted in his analysis. Brady looked sh*t hot, also notable performances from Barton and Murphy. McCarthy ok, some nice passes but didnt stand out.
02/09/2011, 1:08 PM
Duggie

in fairness dosent McCarthy always look a bit laboured, never seen him take hold of a game, not really that type. is he a bit over hyped??
02/09/2011, 1:48 PM
boovidge

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Originally Posted by DannyInvincible

When Houghton scored that "chipper" against Italy in '94, the ESPN commentator called us England. (Not sure what the moral of that is.)

Just makes me laugh thinking about that video.
02/09/2011, 2:34 PM
shellyriver

Yeah, McCarthy seemed a little anonymous in middle of park. Agree that he showed some nice passes but if you didn't know who he was before the game he'd certainly not be one to write home about. Brady played a great game -- just like the last U-21. Barton was good enough. Nos 3, 6 & 7 along with Brady were the best imo. Hungary were no where near as good as Austria - Austrians dominated Ireland, and it was really only against run of play that Ireland got the result.
02/09/2011, 10:22 PM
Colbert Report

We could have used young James in the middle of the park today, what with Andrews and Whelan not doing very much.
03/09/2011, 10:15 AM
elroy

While I have no doubt james will be a decent player, I have not seen anything to justify the near messiah status we place on him.
04/09/2011, 6:55 PM
Fergie's Son

He is still very young. Plenty of time to develop into a solid player. Good sign that he played for the U-21's. Shows a renewed commitment.
05/09/2011, 9:19 AM
elroy

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Originally Posted by Fergie's Son

He is still very young. Plenty of time to develop into a solid player. Good sign that he played for the U-21's. Shows a renewed commitment.

Or indicates towards a poor relationship with Trap.
11/09/2011, 2:45 PM
TrapAPony

TRAPATTONI: James McCarthy is the future - not the now.

http://ciarano.tumblr.com/post/10081...re-not-the-now
11/09/2011, 3:21 PM
Closed Account

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Originally Posted by TrapAPony

TRAPATTONI: James McCarthy is the future - not the now.

http://ciarano.tumblr.com/post/10081...re-not-the-now

Refreshing to read.
12/09/2011, 1:11 PM
LFCSixty/Eighty

Interesting to read how Trap says that McCarthy against Uruguay '....did not ask for the ball, he wasn’t calling for it'

Surely the response to that would be whether Andrews and Whelan do?? In the last 2 games I didn't see either of our midfield duo do what Trap is suggesting McCarthy should be doing. He seems to pick and choose what players he has a go at to justify his own argument.
12/09/2011, 1:15 PM
the bear

andorra would be an ideal match to blood him. i'd put him and fahey cm
12/09/2011, 2:05 PM
BonnieShels

Spot on Bear.
12/09/2011, 2:23 PM
paul_oshea

maith an bear.
12/09/2011, 2:24 PM
Charlie Darwin

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Originally Posted by LFCSixty/Eighty

Interesting to read how Trap says that McCarthy against Uruguay '....did not ask for the ball, he wasn’t calling for it'

Surely the response to that would be whether Andrews and Whelan do?? In the last 2 games I didn't see either of our midfield duo do what Trap is suggesting McCarthy should be doing. He seems to pick and choose what players he has a go at to justify his own argument.

Well if people are talking about McCarthy coming in and getting us playing some ball in midfield, I think it's valid to point out that he's show no evidence of being that type of player. Whelan and Andrews do a very disciplined screening job in front of the back four, a role that McCarthy doesn't really have the physical attributes for.

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