Good move for Robbie in terms of getting game time, but a bad move in terms of standard and quality of football.
Anthony Stokes is a prime example.
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Good move for Robbie in terms of getting game time, but a bad move in terms of standard and quality of football.
Anthony Stokes is a prime example.
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Originally Posted by stojkovic
He will get his game but it's the end of his career in top flight football which imo ended when Liverpool got rid of him.
the only way is down. great career robbie tho :D
You have to laugh when you hear Irish Premier League fans calling the SPL muck! Seems to be a lot of anti Robbie and Anti-McGeady bile too stemming from these "fans". Not sure what the problem is but it really does smack of bitterness.
it is much tho relative to the standard keane is meant to be at. a year ago keane was signed for 20 million, a year later he's out on loan to a team in a small league. more challenge playing for shamrock rovers
The swan song of a great pro for Ireland. Makes me kind of sad.
Swan song my arse, hes only 29 and will still be our main striker going into the next world cup campaign
Keane will be part of the squad until he retires IMOQuote:
Originally Posted by Crosby87
No way he isnt retired in 4 years dude. The writing is on the wall.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
At 33??? Thats the same kind of thinking that had Damien Duff and Richard Dunne written off by some people as quality players at the start of this season.Robbie Keane will be playing for Ireland for alot of years to comeQuote:
Originally Posted by Crosby87
Look back at Craig Bellamy's loan deal with Celtic a few years ago and tell me it was the writing on the wall for his career. Robbie won't sign permanently for Celtic and if he gets 10-15 goals in the next 4 months (which he is well capable of) there will be offers from Premier League clubs in England for next season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crosby87
I despair of some of the clueless people on this site.
Bellamy is a better all round player than Keane. I hope Keane does well but the writing is on the wall for him that no top team will ever come in for him. It's a good deal for Celtic so why didn't any EPL club avail of it? Sadly no top team will go near him so Celtic is as good as it gets for him. I hope he doesn't go kissing the Celtic badge when he scores as it is a lame thing to do, other players are guilty of this as well btw.
To be fair you did say Bellamy is a better "all round" player so I'll give you some leeway (and Bellamy often plays as a winger rather than as a striker).Quote:
Originally Posted by yapster
However, forwards are judged on goals more than anything else and Robbie's record is far better over the long-term. Over about 10 seasons each, Robbie averages a league goal every 2.7 games but Bellamy only averages one every 3.3 games. Bellamy has only scored 10 goals in a league season once (2005/06) but Robbie has done it in each of the last seven seasons.
The most damning point of all may be that Liverpool signed Robbie to replace Bellamy so they obviously thought he was a better player at that time as well. He's had a poor year but hopefully the next few months will get his confidence back and I expect to see him back in the Premier League next season.
I reckon Robbie will score a hatful of goals and then get a move to a PL club like Wolves.
I think it's a good move for Robbie. He just needs to be playing football at this point in his career and a loan move to Celtic allows him the opportunity to get his confidence back.
Not happy with this move, certainly a move backwards imo. The best thing that can come out of it is that he scores a hatful of goals up there (have no doubt he will), will be back full of confidence and he may end up in a move to someone like Everton, Villa etc where he will get the regular football he needs.
I have watched a decent bit of the SPL this season and the standard has definitely dropped up there compared to the other big leagues and this is evident in the performances of Celtic/Rangers in Europe. Its a pity Celtic arent in the Europa L, give RK some european football as well. Not a particularly big Celtic fan but they have been very poor, even with these new signings, its hard to see them closing the 10 point gap.
Hate to say it but think Keane's finally found his level and will end up staying at Celtic beyond the loan period. He'll thrive against poor opposition, get the odd goal in the big matches and become a cult hero for Celtic which he'll enjoy but it won't improve his game at all which is bad for Ireland. Thought he should have moved elsewhere in the Premiership (even if to a 'lesser' club such as Sunderland or West Ham) in order to try and keep challening himself.
Have to say that thought crossed my mind too!! However he seemed moved by the reception he got last night. My worry is the fact that he's no real competition at the club to keep him on his toes. I don't recall Keane ever being the undisputed first choice at any of his clubs. There's always been someone nipping at his heels. That said though, the same could be said for Ireland, and he's come up with the goods for us..Quote:
Originally Posted by drummerboy
I don't think Keane will ever retire himself from International football while he's still playing. Can't see it.
I hope it works out for him. In a weird way I was against the move til I seen the reception he got last night.
Sunderland maybe. But there's something not quite right at West Ham at the minute. I'd rather see him at Celtic than West Ham.Quote:
Originally Posted by eaststand85
I'm not thrilled about it but we won't see the long-term implications of this move until the end of the season when the deal's up and his future will need to be decided once again.
If he goes up there and does really well, maybe someone in a better league will come in and take him or he'll get a better chance at Spurs.
If he does ok, he'll probably end up at Celtic.
If he's a flop, who knows?
I am glad that Redknapp let him go. I'm sure there are some managers who would hold onto him and insist on keeping him on the bench. I think Redknapp did a good thing by giving him the loan move. It's good for both of them, Robbie gets football, Redknapp has one less player to worry about in squad rotation but he'll get to see what Robbie can do.
Playing for Celtic never did Larrson any harm. Yes overall the strenght of Celtic and Rangers were stronger then but the rest of the league wasnt much different.Id much prefer to see Robbie scoring goals every week and playing in the Champions league then playing for a team at the foot of the Premiership. I still think he is better than Defoe and was getting a raw deal at Spurs but he is now playing in a massive club where he will be a god and that will only be good for his confidence.At the age he is at now he is not going to dramatically improve his game no matter if he was playing every week for Man United but for me a confident Robbie Keane is vital for Ireland
if robbie gets off to a bad start ( a la liverpool) , he will be by no means guarenteed first team football. samaras, fortune, kamara and rasmussen are a lot better than liverpools only other back up striker at that time _ ngog.
Robbie had a wee dig at Roy Keane in his interview with Sky Sports: said that he didn't want to come there at the age of 34 and past it, thinks he's joining at the peak of his career.
It's not a bad deal for Keane. He can play regularly, has nothing really to lose. If it doesn't work out he can always argue that he didn't have time to get settled and go back to the Premier League.
Far from getting a raw deal at Spurs he was still being given opportunities from the bench when his form since October has been abysmal. Pauvlauchenko has got a raw deal, Keane has had more than his share of chances.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Robbie organised a Christmas party in Dublin against the wishes of Harry Redknapp. That was foolish to say the least, and down right stupid given his role as club captain. While this isn't the reason Robbie isn't in the first team at Spurs, it certainly has impacted on his position at the club.
The move to Celtic seems to be financially attractive to him as well as giving him a chance to regain confidence and get first team football. It gives him the opportunity to put himself in the shop window or to show Spurs what they are missing out on.
Robbie is still our number one striker and a proven goalscorer at international level. Our next competitive fixture isn't until after the summer so I'm happy Robbie is going to get plenty of shooting practice in Scotland before our qualifiers start.
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Originally Posted by twoenz
Yeah thought he was having a dig at Roy as well when i saw that .
http://www.skysports.com/video/inlin...911477,00.html
GREAT TURNOUT FROM GREAT FANS
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/scotland/8493570.stm (PS. That's not him pulling up in the Merc Convertible...it's an ad!
ROBBIE INTERVIEW "At Celtic to win trophies"...which ones Robbie??
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/scotland/8493505.stm
Good interview from Robbie there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scram
I hope it goes well for him and Celtic.
Best of luck to Robbie, and I reckon it could be great news for Ireland. IF he stays at Celtic and they are in the champions league he will be playing at the level we need for the all important qualifiers each Sep / Oct /Nov. Yes the SPL is a lower level, but he could still get more minutes on the pitch at a higher level than hes getting at Spurs and may even help him extend his career by a couple of years.
He simply wont be at Celtic next year. The brief interviews I read from him suggested as much, and Celtic don't have the money to buy him from Spurs, or to offer Robbie a two or three year deal. He's simply there because he was told to leave Tottenham, and with no-one spending any money in January had nowhere where his large transfer fee/wages could be sorted easily. It was only after the English deadline passed that the wheels of the Celtic move began to turn. It's a short term option to keep himself fit and in the shop window for a summer move to a Premier League club who have had time to financially prepare themselves for taking on his wages and transfer fee.
The only way possible that Celtic could afford to keep him long term would be if Dermot Desmond personally financed it which he is rumoured to have done with this deal
So the rest of the team is rubbish?? How do you know this exactly?? Which players are you tlking about???Quote:
Originally Posted by ofjames
You may find very few clubs willing to pay the asking price and Spurs may end up continuing to pay half his wages like Leeds were paying his wages for years after he left them. I think they would prefer to do that with him playing in the SPL rather than the permiership. Funny old game this football, and Harry Redknapp is a law unto himself in the transfer market.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jicked
I can't see that happening. Aston Villa, Sunderland, Birmingham, Everton, Fulham, Blackburn, West Ham and numerous others would all be able to meet a £7-10mill fee in the summer when they have a bit of time to prepare for such a deal, especially as Keane would be a very popular signing at any of those clubs. Dermot Desmond is financing this deal, but I strongly doubt he could afford a £9mill transfer fee and then offer Robbie a 2/3 year deal in excess of £55k (minimum) as those Premier League clubs could. The reason Robbie didn't sign for another EPL club is down to the well noted difficulties in doing a deal at this stage of the season, not because no club in the Premier League wanted, or couldn't afford him.
Anyone know if he has started tonight?
He has yeah, couple of nice touches so far but not heavily involvedQuote:
Originally Posted by christo
Just had a good chance but fired it straight at the keeper.
I can't find a decent stream to watch the game but everytime one flickers on I'm treated to the crowd singing "Billy Boys". Scottish football really is a cesspit. Very disappointed in the move.
Celtic have been woeful tonight. Keane's been OK. It's been a typical performance from the last few years, he's had plenty of effort but in a lot of the wrong areas.
The team has no ideas, McGeady being chief in the wasters. Doesn't really matter what Keane does now, that's 10 points behind with the same amount of games played. After today's result they're going to lose any good buzz they would have had going for home ticket sales for the next game.
Lost 0:1 at full time I think.