BTW how will FORAS get a first division license at this stage?
BTW how will FORAS get a first division license at this stage?
Why wouldn't they? They made the application in time and I'd imagine filled all the correct criteria for a 1st Division Application...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
I agree. I think people are under the impression that because FORAS were not granted a licence this week then they can't get one. However, the announcement actually said "The application from FORAS has been deferred pending the outcome of the Cork City decision". I assume that means if Cork City don't get one then FORAS will get one. See http://www.loi.ie/index.php/about/pr...-2010-licencesQuote:
Originally Posted by Doomofman
Fair play to you and other Cork fans on here for saying that. One small good thing that might come of all this is that it seems even Cork people now know that there is no anti-Cork/pro-Dublin conspiracy within the FAI. I've lost count of the number of times I've heard such allegations over the past 20 years or so that I've been going to games - on message boards, in person on Ireland trips, even from Roy Keane's pontificating on the tv.Quote:
Originally Posted by tonydaly
This whole saga has proved beyond doubt that if anything the opposite is true - it's clear the FAI believe that Cork is so important to the game in this country that they will go out of their way to help them stay in the top flight, and if a club from Dublin was in the same position there is no way they would have got the same treatment.
I wasn't under the impression that FORAS applied for any licence at all
They applied for a 1st Division licence as a backup in case Cork City got denied a licence or went belly up (which is likely to be the case)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Although I'm still a little confused as to how FORAS would get a place in the First Division even if they get a licence ahead of other teams...
Following the Derry precedent. Before the Derry drama kicked off they had applied only for an A Licence. Cobh's not getting a First Division Licence simplifies it nicely come to think of it!.
Did someone use the word 'pontificating'.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...58801785_1.jpg
Sorry
FORAS have a strong application in and met every deadline laid down comfortably.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
It was/is only ever intended as a PlanB, but it's there.
I wasn't having a go tiktokQuote:
Originally Posted by tiktok
I just didn't realise thye had submitted an application. I presume they've agreed to use Turners Cross
Yes, I believe there is a verbal agreement in place with the MFA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
I know you weren't, if the reply sounded snippy it really wasn't meant to [well the meeting deadlines portion was meant to sound snippy towareds a certain other application that may have come out of Cork].Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
What are the chances of the take over falling through and cork not getting a pre licence and going down a division?
If the Cork takeover falls through,then Cork City won't get any license at all & Foras will play in the 1st Div next year. Bray will be promoted to the Premier Div again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grasshopper 99
If the debts really are €1m as is now being reported, I cannot see a takeover going ahead. It would be financial madness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grasshopper 99
CCFC will not get a licence for a dog never mind a licence for a club if the takeover fails.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grasshopper 99
I'm sure theres someone somewhere that can help with these nightmares, either that or you have one hell of an imagination. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by weecountyman
In the words of Tom Coughlan, "I think you're being disingenuous"Quote:
Originally Posted by weecountyman
I understand that Cobh's financial statements were not correct & so they will spend a further season in the A Div.Quote:
Originally Posted by Longfordian
If Cork City don't get a license Foras can use these players as most of them are not registered with the FAI. In any case there are lots of players available. I'm sure Foras would already have all this in hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by D24Hoop
If the takeover fails Cork City will be refused a license of any kind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grasshopper 99
Well if there was someone out there that did wanna take over the club, they would have done it by now and not waited so long to do it
What you say is true but only I believe since the FAI took over running the League. In the bad old days of the League of Ireland itself I think there was definitely a bias of some sort whether perceived or otherwise. I know where the FAI are coming from in all of this. The League needs a Cork team in it but its the way they go about it that I don't agree with.Make your rules & stick to them. The clubs know whats needs to be done in order to get a license but there are still some out there who cling to the bad old ways.What has happened this season hasn't done anything to guide clubs away from the old ways.Next season we will have the same problems with some other club who will then point to what is happening now. What will the FAI do then ? Probably fudge it again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedser
Ok, so the paranoia still hasn't died.Quote:
Originally Posted by tonydaly
On this season's evidence I think it would depend on where the team is located. If outside Leinster or thereabouts then yes, they may well fudge again, as they have shown on more than one occasion that they believe maintaining a regional representation is more important than fair play. Makes you wonder what other ways that manifests itself too, but that's another debate. Anyway, if a Dublin based team is guilty of even a fraction of the transgressions that Cork have been guilty of, then I'm sure they'll be f**ked out of the premier without a second thought. It's already happened to 2 of the "big" 4 in Dublin, no fudge warranted there apparently.Quote:
Originally Posted by tonydaly
Tralee, Castlebar, Cobh, etc. only got A League licences so there's a spare place in the first division for Foras to take up assuming they get a first division licence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doomofman
I think reading through the thread walks the boundary between dream and nightmare, but normally those who transgress (in football) get chosen for higher office - or at least second chances elsewhere - I'll point to england and say the former chairmen or Leeds and Chelsea to name but two.Quote:
Originally Posted by razor
I was most certainly being disingenuous, actually I was just trying to figure out if quintas and co were getting dragged into the game being played. It can't be easy staying cool and aloof, especially with how business seems to be done in the existing situation.
Wasnt the deadline noon and did they make it?Thanks
Whats the general feeling among City fans at the minute??
-are you gonna get premier licence
-will you be in europe
-is the Quintas deal likely to go through???
I know that nobody has the answers...but is there a feeling of optomism???
-NoQuote:
Originally Posted by shep
-No
-No
And yet I'd say there still is a feeling of optimism, just for a fan-run club in the first rather than CCFC in the prem.
Now I feel a little dizzy..Quote:
Originally Posted by tonydaly
Very honest in all senses. I hope that the reincarnation (if the premier isn't on the cards) goes ahead and that there is a really well run and vibrant community club that will benefit all the first division clubs for a season at least. I remember the Shamrock Rovers season in the first and the bumper crowds most clubs got. With Cork AND Derry in the first there is going to be a great buzz for the other clubs.Quote:
Originally Posted by derm
edit: I know Longfordjames asked, but what has happened with the high noon showdown?
Not really, it's still the first division no matter who else is in it.
Tom was shot but is holed up in the saloon
So the extra fans clicking through the turnstiles doesn't make a difference to the coffers and atmosphere? I think it'll be a fun season, maybe your profile pic can take over as chairman of LFC - even as a player he'd bring extra firepower, alright, that's enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
If the takeover had gone through we'd have almost certainly heard about it- therefore we can be 99.9% sure it's dead in the water.
So it looks like Bray with a late reprieve and FORAS in D1.
i'll wait for the official confirmation.
rumour on the ccfc forum that the consortium are holding a press conference this afternoon.
The FAI have launched a last minute bid to takeover Cork City. The hearing has been postponed for another week to allow the takeover to be completed!! Cork will be in Premier Division this season and as a kind gesture the FAI have awarded them +10 points to start off the season!!
You shouldn't joke like that Frank, some people might actually believe it.
Now that makes sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank76
;)
Its not a joke!!! Trust me the FAI will find some jackass reason for not going by the rules when it doesn't suit them. Its all to suit the bigger clubs. Sure look what happened Longford Town a couple of seasons back and they were no where near as in big of trouble as Cork but yet they get lifeline after lifeline!! It wouldn't surprise in the slightest what they'll come up with next.
Supporting Athlone Town also means a very, very, very good sense of humour is required!
Especially the last 10 years!!!;)
I'd take the opposit view. If Nothing has been announced it means they're fighting for every last second they can getQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr A