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Hold on a minute. He was actually using Marr's birthname and making a point in doing so. Johnny Marr was born Johnny Maher: http://www.nme.com/news/johnny-marr/67272 Marr changed his name because of how Maher was being pronounced. The Gallaghers have their second names predominantly pronounced as 'Gallacher' and that's the point he was making.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
As far as a birth cert is concerned, the author was on the money.
I think he was worried people would think he was North African.
(Foot.ie anorak joke)
Not the greatest of pieces by Hogan, I'm afraid. It's very speculative. Just because Martin is reticent and habitually careful with his words in public doesn't mean there's been no warmth behind the scenes. Martin met up with Jack and his father and they discussed many things beyond football. And, we've been over this before, but it's still unfair to simply assume that Grealish is just cynically waiting on an England call-up. He has rejected the FA before and if they come calling again, we simply don't know if he will accept.
On Noel Gallagher; he is a big fan of Ireland and Celtic. Pretty sure there's a video of him talking about Celtic and Irishness on YouTube. Would look for a link except I'm on a work computer and YouTube is blocked. He might follow England too, but it's that idea of overlapping/dual identity again. Very simple really. Don't know why it's so difficult for some people to grasp that people can affiliate with more than one identity at the same time... Tiresome.
Not really, there's a lot that's gone on that I'm not mad about. The 'year off' doesn't sit too well with me, when the U21's wouldn't have tied him down anyway. Concentrating on his club career seemed a lame excuse, every young player has to do that but they generally don't exclude themselves from internationals. I also feel it's a bit of an unnecessary drama, it's an important decision for him but it's not one that's going to get any easier (unless he is just holding out for England) so just make it. There's only so much thinking one can do over any decision and he's had plenty of time. All that being said, this is not the right moment for him to decide, certainly from his clubs point of view. It would be an unwelcome distraction, certainly if he chose us, no point in saying otherwise. September should reveal all.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
Good article by Ian Rush on Jack Grealish
http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-31170118.html
Heh. I didn't think it was good. Pretty simplistic stuff IMO. Like something an ex-pro picking up a few bob on the side would write.
Rousing though.
It's worse than that. Johnny didn't have a quiff - he's thinking of Morrissey.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
Don't think it is unfair personally - there's a world of difference between trying to get him into an underage set-up and senior honours, particularly when it comes to a player who has a very difficult decision to make.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
If Grealish now believes he could realistically feature as an English international regularly, then it's probably game changer for him.
I wouldn't ordinarly support calls like Hogan's, but in this instance I think he has a point. The issue I'm most worried about is every match - every squad announcement - from now until Grealish gets off the fence will be overshadowed by him.
No point saying it won't - these eligibility only ever get louder and more distracting. Grealish is old enough, he's smart enough and the tail is utterly wagging the dog now on this one (I mean, was no-one else peeved about his dad saying he'll return to the U21s? We're way past that point chum and we can *see* what you're playing at).
I don't like it when players dictate, even if they are Grealish. If he's going to England (as I expect) then best it's sooner rather than later. And best of luck to him if he does.
June might be too soon - and probably bad faith given the year off deal - but call him up for the seniors in August/September.
On to the player himself - Villa made a comedy start against Man City, but Grealish has quietly become central to almost everything they're doing to get back in the game.
It's not the likeliest of scenarios, but if Villa were to go down I suspect English interest in him would wane. Out of sight is out of mind and all that.
http://www.irishpost.co.uk/entertain...noel-gallagherQuote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
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What about choosing between supporting England and the Republic of Ireland? Gallagher answers without a hint of hesitation: “Oh, Republic of Ireland; I don’t consider myself to be English at all.”
Grealish just fouled the City keeper for 2-2 :)
Call him up Trap.
(well not easy to see on the stream, going by the commentator who was not sure either)
about 1.40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wlI18s6ACY
Here's that Noel Gallagher video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WonEbYXPa5k
It features a selection of quotes. For some reason, I had it in my head he spoke.
"bail that out u f*ckers!!!"Quote:
Originally Posted by samhaydenjr
It would be grossly naïve to deny the possibility, but are we allowing the Anglocentric hype/pressure since last weekend to influence our thoughts or sense of balance to the point where we straightforwardly assume it must also be affecting Grealish, despite his father informing us "nothing has changed"? Grealish hasn't beckoned England at all; in fact, he re-affirmed his intention to be back in the green come September.Quote:
Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton
Did Kevin Grealish definitely say it was only the under-21s for whom Jack would return? A few journalists have assumed that's what was meant - I acknowledge Fallon (closely connected to the Grealish family?) was one of them - but I'm not sure there's a direct quote. Very much open to correction on that though. (And maybe it's fair to assume it's more than just an interpretation of ambiguity if Fallon said it?)Quote:
Grealish is old enough, he's smart enough and the tail is utterly wagging the dog now on this one (I mean, was no-one else peeved about his dad saying he'll return to the U21s? We're way past that point chum and we can *see* what you're playing at).
I don't like it when players dictate, even if they are Grealish. If he's going to England (as I expect) then best it's sooner rather than later. And best of luck to him if he does.
I can see why the present uncertain state of affairs could be exasperating, but that's what placing a wager can entail and we have only ourselves to blame if we are indeed being "strung along". I think we're voluntarily allowing ourselves to be "exploited" (if that is what is happening) rather than it being a case of Grealish dictating the game. I'm very much for acknowledging/taking responsibility for that over which we have control, out of self-respect over wallowing in victimhood, and we're allowing the present situation to exist because we very much want to be an option. We stand to gain. (It'd also be very hypocritical for me to cry "foul" here yet consistently defend the rights and integrity of northern-born Irish nationals like McClean or Duffy who have switched to us after a bit of time with the IFA.) The FAI are taking the approach that they hope will bloom a reward worth all the stress and investment. It's a risk and we've been more than happy to have a gamble. If we're happy to simply be an option instead of forcing the issue, we have to accept the ultimate decision if it happens to go against us. Rather than appeasing the lad by giving him his time, O'Neill could issue Grealish an ultimatum tomorrow and we'd be done with it; we'd either have a very talented and committed young player on our hands or we'd be able to devote our attentions to something more worthwhile as Grealish goes his own way and devotes his own efforts solely to making it with England. If he eventually "disrespects" us, it'll very much have been because we've put ourselves in such a position where that's a distinct possibility.
Just to clarify, I say all of the above simply to make a point. I'm not jumping to any conclusions nor am I assuming that we are actually being strung along by a cynical upstart; simply saying that we're more than happy to permit such a situation to be prolonged on account of our own selfish interests, so we shouldn't pretend we're helpless. For what it's worth, I also happen to think that the way O'Neill has been dealing with it is spot on, for now.
I agree. If he wants to return to the green, as clearly expressed, hold him to his word. If he doesn't want a senior call-up come September, my patience will wear thin then, but I'm prepared, out of good honest faith in the integrity and clarity of the spoken word (rather than complete blind naïvity), to take him at his word for now. I don't think I could defend pandering to someone after they've gone back on their word. I'm well aware there's a possibility of it hapening, as there is with anything, but I'd rather not be the one to engage in bad faith first by assuming him to be lying to us.Quote:
June might be too soon - and probably bad faith given the year off deal - but call him up for the seniors in August/September.
Good article. I like how well he calls out the hypocrisy of the lecturing the Brit media is doing and the fact that they couldn't have cared less a week ago. Good to see that coming from someone of Rush's standing.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapAPony
He would appreciate the arrogance of the English media having played for a smaller country in Wales. Agreed, good article and great to have you back Stu!
It's the hope that kills you with Grealish really. If only Trap was still in charge, at least we wouldn't have to burden ourselves; we'd already know for sure that hope of seeing a young creative ball-player in the green was a complete waste of time…
Cheers G!Quote:
Originally Posted by gastric
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Yes indeed. A real irishman...
Don't forget this brother:
http://live4ever.live4evermediall.ne...jack-small.jpg
Another proud irishman.
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Both of whom were born in England.