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Originally Posted by BarelyLegal
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:D now that would be some ugly babies :DQuote:
Originally Posted by BarelyLegal
Is that you Eamo? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Angus
But surely is no possible, is de facts, no?Quote:
Originally Posted by old git
A spoofer who has won lots of trophies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Angus
Now I think someone can either agree or disagree with his methods but he's certainly no spoofer.
Another pretty poor game but again edge of the seat stuff God bless Rafa and his zonal marking I hope he sticks with that for the replay that’s 2 goals in 2 games he has cost them ( and prob the league). Liverpool pretty much outplayed Everton in the 2nd half without threatening there goal too much again the everton back 4 where brilliant all English back four hope cappello was watching because at least 3 of them should be in that squad.
Should have had a penalty when Pienaar was hacked down but as usual you don’t get those at anfield. So it has to be all done again I was hoping it would finish yesterday we could do without an extra game right now.
And again Rafa let himself down complaining about Everton defending ! im all ways amazed when he comes out and says things like that, Sure its not your fault rafa the other team kept defending when ye where trying to score!!! Bizzare.
I’d love to see Liverpool play without Gerrard Allonso Torress Keane and Babel and go to Utd and play attacking football !!! Just take Gerrard and Torres out of that team and it would be very ordinary.
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Originally Posted by anto1208
Just take Gerrard out. Torres, his flick apart, did nothing and as I said elsewhere, if it had been Robbie, he would have been substituted.
Yes, the back 4 did well. Jaqielka's distribution is terrible though. All he does is hump the ball upfield even when he has time to find a man. Pity about the keeper's error. I was hoping Liverpool would lose without Robbie. Despite all their possession, Liverpool hardly created a chance.
Lesscott and Jags kept him quite (torres) but he is world class only player on their team i would take without thinking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
I dont know what to make of this rumour that Robbie is joining Everton on loan untill the end of the season, sounds pretty ridiculous apparently he walked out yesterday after being dropped because he was seen telling the bench to F off in the last derby when he was subbed.
I cant see it happening i think back to spurs is the most likely outcome.
He was very slow down alright but made a superb point blank save soon after that, but these apart there was very little created.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
From all the rumours around it sounds like Keane has had his last chance at Anfield. I'm torn between all the sitters he has missed and the times when he wasn't given a chance.
Lads, Rafa signs players he thinks will make Liverpool better. He gives them a fair crack at it. If they don't measure up, he doesn't wait around. Shortly after we won the 2005 Champions League, he had a clearout. He shows no mercy. They're out and he moves on. He's ruthless and is dead right if he sells Keane. He's been given plenty of time and chances and he's been terrible. I am an avid Liverpool fan and he is not up to scratch. Simple as that really.
And who, other than Gerrard and possibly Torres has been "up to scratch" in the Liverpool team of late?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pike B
I would say Alonso and with only 2 losses in 34 games this season (too many draws, I know)the defence should be in with a shout.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
Carragher. Reina. Skrtel. Alonso. Mascherano. Hyppia. Insua(when he's played).Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
We are second in the Premiership. You don't get there playing badly.
Yes, you can and Liverpool have. Chelsea are third playing badly and were top.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pike B
Haven't been impressed with Mascherano and Carragher isn't the same player as last season. Hasn't Hyppia spent a lot of the season warming his behind on the bench?
don't know about that liverpool have managed it so far this season :D:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Pike B
Hyppia has played and played well. Carra and Masch are always solid. I aint gonna win here am I??Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
Not really, you seem to have forgotten Keane scored two and was promptly dropped for the next two games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pike B
Did you see him against Preston??Quote:
Originally Posted by Roadend
I'll say no more..
It says so much about this once vaunted club that the manager and fans would contemplate dropping a huge signing like Keane, when he has only played 15 games, many as sub, and having not even begun to give him a chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pike B
Liverpool have a major problem - and it so plain it is funny - Keane and Gerrard play in the same position - end of. The equation here is simple:
a) Rafa did not actually sign him and Keane was signed by Parry
b) Rafa is an idiot
c) Rafa thought Gerrard would leave (having already tried to sell him)
d) Rafa thought he could mould a side playing Gerrard and Keane in the same side
Of these only a) and d) are plausible and I really cannot think of another scenario - Robbie is not an out and out front man - he plays deeper. Gerrard also plays deeper than the strikers but more advanced than midfield.
Either way, the initial plan will take some time or Rafa had no plan - in eitehr case, shut up rafa and stop being an idiot
I was at Anfield this year and Robbie simply does not know where to go - Gerrard, Kuyt and Robbie are all trying to sit in the same position and it is a complete mess.
Liverpool have some super players and are clearly better than most teams but at this level, it is impossible to have a team trying to win the league and still not sure of who is doing what
Thank you for that Angus Hansen.. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Angus
super players .. please name . & leave out obious choices gerrard / torres .. clearly better than most teams .. thats a bit of an easy say based on current position definatly not based on form last month or two .. wait untill end of season i still think they are missing 2 good full backs / another centre half / wide player and another striker.. i may be wrong but kuyt / babel / ngog dont do it for me for goalscorers :ball:Quote:
Originally Posted by Angus
Solid performance again tonight never paniced and got what they deserved in the end and got a load of free socks :D
Liverpool fans let the club down though throwing things at players if even a pair of manky old socks isnt on really, i saw cahill baines and pienaar all getting hit with them
Gosling had a few good touches but for me rodwell stood out 17 years old but you wouldnt think it, solid, confident on the ball, able to pass and not afraid to shoot. And a good cross from VDM :D
Worst game in FA Cup history anyone?
Never have I been so glad that the telly is borked.
Dire game alright.
Thought Pienaar could have easily walked before half time, 2 horror tackles on Lucas, who himself was booked for nothing but shoulda known better on a yellow.
Was only going to be one winner from play with the 10 men, Arbeloa was out of position for the goal, Reina had no chance once it took the deflection.
Agree totally about the socks, throwing objects onto the pitch is wrong full stop.
Looking like Mascherano & Plessis in centre midfield this weekend.
Pienaar and Felini could have walked and I reckon them being subbed was more to do with that than injuries. But at the same time Alonso could have gone too he cleaned Hibbert out when he was breaking through and had a nasty tackle on Gosling too. I think the ref did a good job to control it the game could have blown up in the hands of a different ref. Lucas deserved to go he could have been given a straight red for his tackle on Lescott and he had a hand full of equally bad ones.
Its amazing how badly Rafa treated Robbie keane but doesn’t treat messers Lucas & Kuyt the same.
Lucas has been terrible, whatever about Kuyts ability to score goals, he put in some shift last night especially when Baines pushed on up the left after the red.Quote:
Originally Posted by anto1208
Im so sick of kuyt and all this hard working b*llsh1t, he has the touch of a rapist, can't pass, shoot or anything you would imagine a footballer should do, no way a top four footballer.....:mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by razor
He was moved into the middle when Benayoun came on and completely was anonymous.Quote:
Originally Posted by razor
more of a blow just heard on radio gerrard out for at least 3 weeks ... could be the final blow in liverpool's league challange:ball:Quote:
Originally Posted by Roadend
At least we agree on something!!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by hunt4the
Must be karma at workQuote:
Originally Posted by old git
[QUOTE=anto1208;1099143] Lucas deserved to go he could have been given a straight red for his tackle on Lescott and he had a hand full of equally bad ones.
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What a load of bull. His tackle on Lescott was harmless. Yes it was a foul but it shouldn't have been a yellow, never mind your suggestion that he could have got a straight red. You obviously just have a bias against Liverpool.
ANyway, Lucas is a terrible player who isn't cut out for the premier league, let alone a team aiming to win it.
Regarding the Gerrard injury, I'd a look at the fixture list and he'll more than likely only miss the away game at Portsmouth and the home game against Man City which I'd expect Lppol to win without him. So this talk of their title challenge being finished cause of his injury is also bull.
It wasnt harmless to Lescott, but he saw that Everton were breaking, and brought down Lescott to stop the break. It was a cynical tackle worthy of a yellow. It was the same reason Alonso got his yellow.Quote:
Originally Posted by lionelhutz
I agree that it was no way in the world a straight red, absolutely no way but it was a clear yellow as it was cynical as Lescott had made a good break up the pitch. There is nothing wrong with having a bias aginst Liverpool at the moment. They play the most outrageously defensive football around and have done for a very long time now, since Roy Evans left I would suggest. Even last night they had their worst player sent off and spent the rest of the match time wasting looking for penalties against a team they are obviously far superior to.Quote:
Originally Posted by lionelhutz
I suppose they are games that u would expect Liverpool to win but then so are these:Quote:
Originally Posted by lionelhutz
Stoke(h), Fulham (h), West Ham (h), Hull (h), Stoke (a), Everton (h) and Wigan (a)
And they had Gerrard playing in most of these!!
Even last night they had their worst player sent off and spent the rest of the match time wasting looking for penalties against a team they are obviously far superior to.
is the liverpool team, man for man really that far superior to Everton's? I'm beginning to think that's a myth? Apart from Gerard and Torres I can't see that much of a differance. There is some s hite in that Liverpool squad such as Kuyt (I know he'll run all day, but so will a four mile steeple chaser), Arveloa, Babbel and Lucas
Very true, their challenge was finished when they dropped all those points at home to the likes of Fulham, West Ham, Stoke, Everton and HullQuote:
Originally Posted by lionelhutz
Apparently there are more red cards handed out over the years at Liverpool vs Everton fixtures than any other league games.
Benitez's Liverpool is based on being difficult to beat and trying to sneak a win. Terrible team to watch as a neutral. Although it sticks in the throat, I'd sooner watch Man U any day.
Well to be fair they do have different targets at the start of the season and Liverpool are 14 points ahead of them in the league. If Everton were being judged by Liverpool's standards they would be having an absolutely brutal season altogether. When u do go through the teams though there doesn't seem to an awful lot in it man for man. I suppose it's mainly Gerrard and Torres that set Liverpool apart alright.Quote:
Originally Posted by Den Perry
maybe "supposed to be far superior to" would have been a better choice of words.
Total and utter bollx..Quote:
Originally Posted by BarelyLegal
1:Howard-Reina 0-1
2:Lescott-Arbeloa 1-1
3:Hibbert-Aurelio 1-2
4:Jagielka-Carragher 1-3
5:Yobo-Agger 1-4
6:Neville-Mascherano 1-5
7:Pienaar-Kuyt 2-5
8:Arteta-Gerrard 2-6
9:Saha-Torres 2-7
10:Cahill-Alonso 2-8
11:Yakubu-Riera 3-8..
Pretty conclusive in my book lads.. ;)
[QUOTE=lionelhutz;1099376][QUOTE=anto1208;1099143] Lucas deserved to go he could have been given a straight red for his tackle on Lescott and he had a hand full of equally bad ones.
Harmless ?? It was late it stopped Lesscott going on a nice break and he had a hand full of other fouls leading up to it ive seen player walk for less. Definetly deserved a yellow.Quote:
What a load of bull. His tackle on Lescott was harmless. Yes it was a foul but it shouldn't have been a yellow, never mind your suggestion that he could have got a straight red. You obviously just have a bias against Liverpool.
ANyway, Lucas is a terrible player who isn't cut out for the premier league, let alone a team aiming to win it.
Regarding the Gerrard injury, I'd a look at the fixture list and he'll more than likely only miss the away game at Portsmouth and the home game against Man City which I'd expect Lppol to win without him. So this talk of their title challenge being finished cause of his injury is also bull.
He isnt at a team aiming to win the league though.
100% correct. Its Benitezs negativity that has ended Liverpools title challengeQuote:
Originally Posted by lionelhutz
are you having a laugh?...Carragher is the most overrated centre half around. And where are you getting your scoring from?...I see you don't have the brilliant Lucas in there?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pike B