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10/02/2022, 9:43 AM
ifk101

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Originally Posted by Exgrad

Of course there are doubts within the FAI, thats pretty clear isnt it?

Is it possible that CEO has a mate he is lining up to come in for Kenny?
10/02/2022, 9:58 AM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by Exgrad

Might have been harder if he was on a longer (and better) contract? Thats generally how it works. As things stand there are doubts over the future for the entire coaching staff until contracts get sorted. Thats been going on since November.

Could the FAI afford a better contract? Could they afford a better contact than the Belgian FA? Did Barry want to commit himself to a longer contract in the first place? Even if he did, would that really have changed his decision to move from a side where beating Luxembourg is a positive to one that's made the quarter-finals of five of the last six major tournaments (including the Nations League)?

I do think we need a bit of perspective on our side at times to be honest. At best, I think we would have come away from it with a bit of extra compensation. That's all.
10/02/2022, 10:25 AM
Exgrad

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Originally Posted by ifk101

Is it possible that CEO has a mate he is lining up to come in for Kenny?

Would certainly say there are parties within the FAI who have a different views on who should be managing the team.

Having said that Kennys contract will be renewed and its just the timing of the announcement really.
10/02/2022, 10:31 AM
Exgrad

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Could the FAI afford a better contract? Could they afford a better contact than the Belgian FA? Did Barry want to commit himself to a longer contract in the first place? Even if he did, would that really have changed his decision to move from a side where beating Luxembourg is a positive to one that's made the quarter-finals of five of the last six major tournaments (including the Nations League)?

I do think we need a bit of perspective on our side at times to be honest. At best, I think we would have come away from it with a bit of extra compensation. That's all.

I guess we won't know now, but efectively we left one of the most talented young coaches in the game effectively out of contract. This is a reasnoble perspective. Pretty clear Barry was too upwardly mobile to be hanging round for years, not under any illusions about that. I wouldnt be able to dismiss outright the uncertainty of contracts and the mood music of too many backroom staff that the FAI put out over last few months as a factor in him walking though.
10/02/2022, 5:07 PM
liamoo11

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

I've noticed that former U19 player Travis Binnion is coaching the Manchester United U23s, could be another option

Mark Kennedy or diarmuid o carroll
10/02/2022, 6:56 PM
tetsujin1979

Darren O'Dea is coaching at Celtic, they've a load of Irish players in the youth setup
10/02/2022, 9:07 PM
Fixer82

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Originally Posted by liamoo11

Mark Kennedy or diarmuid o carroll

Judging by Kennedy's previous comments, he won't be getting involved in an Irish set up any time soon. Doesn't even watch us when we're playing. Comes across quite bitter about it all even though he was included in 2002 world cup squad an pulled out himself through injury.
10/02/2022, 9:57 PM
BOOMSHAKALAKA

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Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

We get it. You don't like Stephen Kenny..

I do like Stephen Kenny. The same way I still like Steve Staunton but I rate them about the same when it comes to managing Ireland; way out of their depth.
11/02/2022, 8:18 AM
Ol� Ol�

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Originally Posted by liamoo11

Mark Kennedy or diarmuid o carroll

Diarmuid O'Carroll is more likely to take a gig with the IFA than FAI. Think he's had a few roles there already.
12/02/2022, 1:16 AM
Charlie Darwin

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Originally Posted by BOOMSHAKALAKA

Not every manager brings in people to take over organising their team though.

Maybe you should bring in somebody to organise your evidence for that?
12/02/2022, 10:29 AM
John83

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Originally Posted by Exgrad

Whats that got to do with my post? Take it up with those fans.

I would spell it out for you, but I'd rather not come across as patronising.
12/02/2022, 11:26 AM
liamoo11

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Originally Posted by Ol� Ol�

Diarmuid O'Carroll is more likely to take a gig with the IFA than FAI. Think he's had a few roles there already.

I don't think there is any indication that he would take an ifa role over an fai role
12/02/2022, 1:34 PM
BOOMSHAKALAKA

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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

Maybe you should bring in somebody to organise your evidence for that?

Well if you have been watching Ireland matches you may have noticed a sudden change from 433 Kenny to the Chelsea formation. This occurred right after the Chelsea coach arrived.
13/02/2022, 1:30 PM
Bielsa�s irish

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Originally Posted by liamoo11

Maybe fai will go back and offer Barry the managers job and let kennys contract run down?

Could be possible, yes. I thought the same when I read this incident. Of course the WC it could be a sensible reason
13/02/2022, 4:19 PM
Diggs246

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/...-40807281.html
Back to Mainz!!
13/02/2022, 5:33 PM
Trequartista20

Is it the length of contract and terms that the FAI are humming and hawing over, or is Kenny's future genuinely in doubt?

If so, you can only surmise that they have another name in mind. But who might that be?
13/02/2022, 6:53 PM
Diggs246

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Originally Posted by Trequartista20

Is it the length of contract and terms that the FAI are humming and hawing over, or is Kenny's future genuinely in doubt?

If so, you can only surmise that they have another name in mind. But who might that be?

I would say they can't decide on whether to wait until after the 4 NL games in June or give it to him now

They really should wait.. we have very little to lose by waiting.
13/02/2022, 8:33 PM
Trequartista20

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Originally Posted by Diggs246

I would say they can't decide on whether to wait until after the 4 NL games in June or give it to him now

They really should wait.. we have very little to lose by waiting.

That seems sensible.

I, personally, would be of the mind that, notwithstanding Barry's defection, given the recent signs of progression and improvement, and with no-one obvious and available to replace him, Kenny should be afforded more time - though not on a stupidly long contract.
14/02/2022, 9:52 AM
Exgrad

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Originally Posted by John83

I would spell it out for you, but I'd rather not come across as patronising.

He says patronisingly...
14/02/2022, 10:24 AM
John83

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Originally Posted by Exgrad

He says patronisingly...

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...20130813194642

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