Most outiders don't know about it, and the majority of those who do, don't careQuote:
Originally Posted by CSFShels
Most outiders don't know about it, and the majority of those who do, don't careQuote:
Originally Posted by CSFShels
Its gotten more media coverage than you'd think, if you watch the news, you know about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Its noticeable because we're looking for it. I read all appers in the morning, and even if mentioned its a small piece on a page with other (apparently more pressing) sports news
I judge things on whether people in work ask me about it (knowing I@m a LOI man). None have yet
Its sad, as it was a UK club there'd be wall to wall stuff
What a jokeQuote:
The Independent Club Licensing Committee has deferred its decision on Cork City until after the High Court case comes in for mention on Monday, February 22nd next.
In making its decision, the Independent Club Licensing Committee noted that one of the fundamental principles of club licensing is the protection of creditors such as club employees, other clubs and the Revenue.
The Independent Club Licensing Committee was made aware of a potential takeover which may result in commitments to creditors being honoured. As this takeover is dependent on the outcome of the High Court order, the Independent Committee felt it prudent to await that outcome and give maximum opportunity for creditors to be paid.
The application from FORAS has been deferred pending the outcome of the Cork City decision.
But whats to stop Tom paying back on a directors loan? His own.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
He wouldnt even have to pay tax on it.
Right, can't defend them anymore
Feel fre to unleash whatever fury you like on the "ndependent" licensing committee
Paying back a director's loan with a winding up order from Revenue dangling over you? You really think that's never been tried before? And that's assuming that he's actually put money into the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kildareman
I think I've found an appropriate word for the FAI/Licensing Committee's antics.... Disgusting
Someone can correct this if wrong but directors loans can only be claimed back if the club is in profit. Declarations have to be signed honouring this as part of the audited accounts as far as I know.
Spineless? Short-sighted? Ridiculous? There's no shortage of appropriate words.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doomofman
will we have to wait till tuesday week for fixtures?
Doubt it, it'll have to be done as Cork/Bray.
Can't believe that by 2 weeks before the start of the season we wont even know what teams will be in the league...
*thanks*Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
and we wonder why the barstoolers are constantly saying "I'm not going to watch that ****e" when the administrators of our sport deal with things like this...
Dropping to the first division will mean a drop of €70k on our gates, believe me if we are given the chance of Premier football we will be playing in the Premier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Longfordian
Rovers, Bohs and Pats are Bray's very big money earners, playing them only increases Bray's home crowd no matter how bad we are doing and these clubs always bring fantastic away support to the Carlisle.
I've it from a club official that if offered we will be playing in the Premier.
Plenty of players still out there available who we could bring into the club in time with plenty of experience. Our squad is very young but very capable, add 3/4/5 experienced players and we will compete with any club, we wont win the League obviously but we'll give the likes of Galway, UCD, Drogheda etc a run for their money
So the soap opera continues
Looks to me like a happy ending to a terrible day for us City supporters.
I take it that the week delay means that a Premier License will be granted to the new owners.
Soon enough we will be able to talk about actual football for a change.
I don't know what to say.
Done. Absolutely done.
Do you think you deserve a place in the Premier Division?Quote:
Originally Posted by harry crumb
Well if we come to agreement with our creditors, then, yes.
Even though its after the licencing deadline? And a special 1 has been drafted up just for yous? You're having a laugh.Quote:
Originally Posted by harry crumb
well that would contradict what they have done to other clubs in the past??Quote:
Originally Posted by harry crumb
I don't care which way they do it but atleast have one set of rules for everyone, no?
You've obviously not been following the saga or trying hard enough RoryH!!! See below! Just stuck these in to show I haven't been dreaming or nightmaring or whatever. Strange to think I thought Roddy was cool when I was a kid in Oriel, still, it was probably the aromatic scents from the brewery :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Rory H
http://www.independent.com.mt/news.asp?newsitemid=99144Quote:
Originally Posted by sheao
Floriana are on facebook on 3 different pages, afaik, one is locked to invitees only (the club release to supporters via that, the other two are open. A few other posters on here would know at least one, more than a few Shamrock Rovers supporters are on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayo Red
Unbelievable.Quote:
Originally Posted by harry crumb
These are special circumstances no?Quote:
Originally Posted by CSFShels
What is special about these circumstances? You've messed around for the last 12 months, paying no1, messing everyone around, now your idiot ex-owner has realised yous arent getting a licence with him owning the club, so now hes selling up, he couldn't do it in time for licencing, his tough luck. If your club had tried to run itself as a business in the previous 12 months, there wouldn't be such a mad rush today.Quote:
Originally Posted by harry crumb
Maybe, but leaves a bitter taste for others!Quote:
Originally Posted by harry crumb
Current owner has managed to secure the funds from the sale of an asset, this will pay one creditor to allow the transfer of all other debts to prospective owners. So for all the messing, and total disregard for everything, Coghlan gets an out on his terms and may receive payment for his trouble. I would have liked to see a fairer outcome.
Add to this the contempt that the FAI and the ILC have shown for their own rules and processes, their lack of even handedness when dealing with clubs, extended deadline after deadline to accommodate a club that allegedly is being dragged before the CAS, what are the thinking? All this to prevent imo what would be a temporary change to the geographic spread of the premier division.
This almost blackmail sounding 'condition' for a premier license or the takeover bid will be pulled doesnt sit too easy either. There is plenty of mileage in this fiasco yet.
Happy ending? dunno bout that!
Special circumstances is that the club is subject to a takeover by a consortium including a fans Co-op.
The obvious decision was for the FAI to deny CCIFL a licence and give FORAS a Div 1 licence. They have fudged on the basis that the Revenue and other football creditors have a better chance of being paid this way. Basically the new consortium have forced the FAI's hand by saying they are only interested in a Prem Div licence.
At the very least if City get a Prem licence next we should have a substantial points deduction.
and so the revisionism starts... shameful that theres even one CCFC fan on here with the neck to even try to start justifying this f*cking sham.Quote:
Originally Posted by harry crumb
bray granted premier licence...
Is the team seriously gonna be called Cork City Foras Co-op?
i thougth it was corkcityfiasco-op.com
Im dumbfounded
Okay so next year if your club is having trouble with getting a licence you and 5 mates ring the club and offer to take it over for say €5. The club says to the licence committee we are 'in take-over talks' so the date has to be extended due to this 'special circumstance'. If one of your mates has to pay a parking fine around the same time all the better - say that this was incurred during your duty to the football club and until wages come into his account please can they delay the decision further.
This might sound like fantasy but it is the precedent just set out by the FAI.
In a nutshell...Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrufil
F ucking joke. This whole thing would make you sick.
And FORAS have shown their true colours too. Full of pompous,condescending talk and hot air when really they are dirty little sluts, willing to hop into bed with any Tom, Dick or Harry.
So sick of this.
Ive been following the LOI for 25 years, but this is rock bottom stuff.
This really does prove that there is one set of rules for certain 'big' clubs and another set for the rest of us.
Its hard enough to watch match officials consistently give biased decisions towards these clubs or turn a blind eye when theyve done wrong on the pitch. But the administrators are worse.
These inconsistencies and bias on and off the pitch really does make you think why bother.
In my ignorance, this is the first time Ive realised the LOI has no future.