Cork City denied a licence; club to be wound up; FORAS to enter First Division

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15/02/2010, 4:04 PM
blackholesun

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Originally Posted by weecountyman

Maybe this should be under a different thread heading - but maybe, just maybe, the FAI should take this gift from Rod, sorry, god, and totally revamp the leagues. Make a 16 team top flight and ditto 1st division. In one stroke you'd satisfy clubs who want to be in the 1st and premier, and more importantly give teams 30 matches in a competitive season. I don't know what to do with the FORAS application (should Tom and co fail), but at least they can go into a 1st division that will have a bit of bite and Cobh can also gain a slot. Derry, for fairness sake, also start in the 1st and have a 3 up and down.

Personally agree with all that, ten team league is boring ...

bhs
15/02/2010, 4:04 PM
GUFCghost

Are Cork part-time of full?
15/02/2010, 4:08 PM
Scrufil

Legally the FAI cannot pay Tom the 'Long' Money. He is banned under their own rules from all football related matters.

Fr Damo what has Athlone Town got to do with the muddle Cork are in? Why stop paying due to people who are in their own little 'Republic'?
15/02/2010, 4:11 PM
eamo1

I have a season ticket renewal form on my desk.Was waiting to see what happened today before i filled it in.Im with "kid creole" on this and jacking it in tomorrow if i dont see a list of what licence EVERY club has been given and dont see a FULL fixture list either.I wont be pulling up my barstool but i wont be in Terryland this season unlike the previous 13 season's.
15/02/2010, 4:13 PM
Jofspring

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Originally Posted by eamo1

I have a season ticket renewal form on my desk.Was waiting to see what happened today before i filled it in.Im with "kid creole" on this and jacking it in tomorrow if i dont see a list of what licence EVERY club has been given and dont see a FULL fixture list either.I wont be pulling up my barstool but i wont be in Terryland this season unlike the previous 13 season's.

The clubs should be using comments like these to show the FAI that it is going to affect every club hugely if people start packing it in due to frustration with the running of the league and licensing. A wrong decision by the FAI is going to send the league so far backwards.
15/02/2010, 4:15 PM
Doomofman

I wonder if we'll even get an FAI statement on the matter tonight
15/02/2010, 4:16 PM
Longfordian

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Originally Posted by Scrufil

Legally the FAI cannot pay Tom the 'Long' Money. He is banned under their own rules from all football related matters.

Fr Damo what has Athlone Town got to do with the muddle Cork are in? Why stop paying due to people who are in their own little 'Republic'?

They have to pay it into the bank account of Cork City. Tom owns Cork City and is presumably a signatory on the account. Not much the FAI can do about it once the court orders them to pay it.
15/02/2010, 4:16 PM
Doomofman

So say Cork got refused a license tonight... Could TNB just take that money and run?
15/02/2010, 4:17 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by Scrufil

Legally the FAI cannot pay Tom the 'Long' Money. He is banned under their own rules from all football related matters.

They're not going to. They're going to (have to, in fact) pay CCIFL the money.

Tom can't take that money and run without having to pay tax on it as earnings. And even then, he'd get sued for giving himself a bonus when there were large creditors in the company.
15/02/2010, 4:18 PM
Longfordian

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Originally Posted by Doomofman

So say Cork got refused a license tonight... Could TNB just take that money and run?

If he wanted to take his chances with the fraud squad he could try it.
15/02/2010, 4:19 PM
tippex

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Originally Posted by Doomofman

So say Cork got refused a license tonight... Could TNB just take that money and run?

I would imagine so.....
15/02/2010, 4:22 PM
Magicme

I think our fans were well ahead of the posse and started this protest in 2001.
15/02/2010, 4:26 PM
Martinho II

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Originally Posted by Magicme

I think our fans were well ahead of the posse and started this protest in 2001.

dont get you at all??:confused:
15/02/2010, 4:28 PM
Magicme

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Originally Posted by Martinho II

dont get you at all??:confused:

not coming to games or buying season tickets like some of the lads are thinking of doing due to disillusionment.
15/02/2010, 4:28 PM
culloty82

So no licences have been announced for the rest of the league yet? Agree it's gone beyond a joke at this stage - time to kick Cork out at this stage and let the other clubs get on with fixtures.
15/02/2010, 4:31 PM
HammerNThongs

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Originally Posted by GUFCghost

Are Cork part-time of full?

Neither...we're slavery!
15/02/2010, 4:32 PM
OneForTheFuture

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Originally Posted by Magicme

not coming to games or buying season tickets like some of the lads are thinking of doing due to disillusionment.

T'Was funny until you had to explain yourself.......
15/02/2010, 4:33 PM
Magicme

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Originally Posted by D15-Red

T'Was funny until you had to explain yourself.......

I know. Well was asked to so being the nice obliging lady I am, I did.
15/02/2010, 4:36 PM
tippex

God this has been one god-damn awful day.
15/02/2010, 4:36 PM
Doomofman

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Originally Posted by tippex

God this has been one god-damn awful day.

And it aint over yet...
15/02/2010, 4:36 PM
DmanDmythDledge

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Originally Posted by Jofspring

The clubs should be using comments like these to show the FAI that it is going to affect every club hugely if people start packing it in due to frustration with the running of the league and licensing. A wrong decision by the FAI is going to send the league so far backwards.

I think it's more of a case of people being complete idiots.
15/02/2010, 4:37 PM
tippex

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Originally Posted by Doomofman

And it aint over yet...

I know and I don't think I've been off this thread most of the day....
15/02/2010, 4:38 PM
Doomofman

This thread must have more followers than Cork at this stage
15/02/2010, 4:38 PM
Martinho II

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Originally Posted by Magicme

not coming to games or buying season tickets like some of the lads are thinking of doing due to disillusionment.

grand Im on go slow today so dont mind me at all..;)
15/02/2010, 4:39 PM
tippex

maybe they are trying to give cork the news first but TNB phone has been cut off for none payment
15/02/2010, 4:42 PM
danthesaint
would like to see
- fran gavin/john delaney resign
- cork relegated
- the licensing sh1te sorted out
- fixtures released
15/02/2010, 4:46 PM
DmanDmythDledge
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Originally Posted by danthesaint

would like to see

fran gavin/john delaney resign
Why?
.
15/02/2010, 4:50 PM
danthesaint

not having the ballox to stand up to cork and other teams............... if the FAI give the clubs an inch, they will take a mile
for not given a fook about the league
15/02/2010, 4:51 PM
kid creole

Fran is the head of the league and should have to be accountable to the mess he presides over , he hasnt made a decision since he signed on and therefore should go , im sure others can elaborate more.
15/02/2010, 4:51 PM
LukeO

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Originally Posted by GUFCghost

Are Cork part-time of full?

****ing amateurs.
15/02/2010, 5:04 PM
DmanDmythDledge

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Originally Posted by danthesaint

not having the ballox to stand up to cork and other teams............... if the FAI give the clubs an inch, they will take a mile
for not given a fook about the league

You think the FAI hasn't stood up to Cork in this situation?

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2009/..._corkcity.html

http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=c...and&Itemid=316

No official announcement has been yet on the issuing of a license to Cork City so I don't know how you could possibly comment on that.

No need to throw the toys out of your pram.
15/02/2010, 5:08 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

No need to throw the toys out of your pram.

The whole thread (bar maybe 10 posts) is like that. People getting their knickers in a twist over every single rumour. The FAI are blamed for the court adjourning at least 5 times ffs

Licences are also announced in the evenings. Might even be tonight.
15/02/2010, 5:11 PM
centre mid

It will be some craic if there is a complete left-field decision, Sligo or St Pats denied a prem licence with Cork getting one.
15/02/2010, 5:13 PM
danthesaint

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Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

You think the FAI hasn't stood up to Cork in this situation?

eh no........... this is dragging on months.............. cork players havent been paid....... they cant even afford to pay their busfare to dublin, if that isnt an embarrassment to the league i dont know what is.

why should ever other club have to wait for them to sort their sh1t out??
15/02/2010, 5:19 PM
DmanDmythDledge

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Originally Posted by danthesaint

eh no........... this is dragging on months.............. cork players havent been paid....... they cant even afford to pay their busfare to dublin, if that isnt an embarrassment to the league i dont know what is.

why should ever other club have to wait for them to sort their sh1t out??

How are those things the FAI's fault?

Clubs have to wait how long extra? Only a couple of hours at this stage and the latest rumour, which you seem to be basing a lot of your opinions on, is that they will be released tonight. I'm sure they will get over a wait of a few hours. The final licensing deadline is today, what's the problem with the licenses aren't officially announced until today?

Nevertheless, clubs have been told themselves whether their license applications have been successful or not in advance. The only club that could be in any way inconvenienced is Bray but presumably they have been told that they have been awarded a Premier Division license. Given that it's been said on here that their budget will be the same whatever division their in people are overreacting as to how much this "delay" is effecting them.
15/02/2010, 5:22 PM
kid creole

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Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

I think it's more of a case of people being complete idiots.

Which people would you be talking about ? Me a loyal loi fan for most of my 26 years on the planet ? A club Volunteer for over ten ? After going through our own troubles and having to put up with disaster after disaster , league medals not awarded , shels fiasco , derry fiasco , cork fiasco , kilkenny , kildare , drogheda ........................... Do I need to go on? Yes based on a quick reflection I am an idiot . But nothing compared to the idiots who are charged with running this league , Gavin being the biggest prize turkey of the lot .
15/02/2010, 5:23 PM
CSFShels

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Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

How are those things the FAI's fault?

Clubs have to wait how long extra? Only a couple of hours at this stage and the latest rumour, which you seem to be basing a lot of your opinions on, is that they will be released tonight. I'm sure they will get over a wait of a few hours. The final licensing deadline is today, what's the problem with the licenses aren't officially announced until today?

Nevertheless, clubs have been told themselves whether their license applications have been successful or not in advance. The only club that could be in any way inconvenienced is Bray but presumably they have been told that they have been awarded a Premier Division license. Given that it's been said on here that their budget will be the same whatever division their in people are overreacting as to how much this "delay" is effecting them.

It is a matter of fairness really. Nothing should be extended by a single minute for anyone, if Cork didn't have their house in order by today, which they blatantly didn't, and we know they didn't, that should be it. The FAI are doing everything possible to avoid doing the fair thing, and have done so many times int he past.
15/02/2010, 5:24 PM
DmanDmythDledge

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Originally Posted by CSFShels

It is a matter of fairness really. Nothing should be extended by a single minute for anyone, if Cork didn't have their house in order by today, which they blatantly didn't, and we know they didn't, that should be it. The FAI are doing everything possible to avoid doing the fair thing, and have done so many times int he past.

Where have they announced that the deadline has been extended beyond today? Jumping the gun and ranting about something that might not happen is completely premature.
15/02/2010, 5:25 PM
CSFShels

Its 6:30 pm. I can't remember the licence announcements being completely unannounced by now ever, thats an unofficial extension in itself. Are we going to wait the whole day until Cork decide if they can sort their finances out?
15/02/2010, 5:26 PM
Doomofman

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Originally Posted by CSFShels

Its 6:30 pm. I can't remember the licence announcements being completely unannounced by now ever, thats an unofficial extension in itself. Are we going to wait the whole day until Cork decide if they can sort their finances out?

I think they weren't announced til the following day last season... I remember seeing our license announcement during the morning last year

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